WHY THE CHURCHES OF JUDEA WEREN'T THE BODY OF CHRIST

[Doug]

[Galatians 1:22 KJV] "And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:"
[Galatians 1:23 KJV] "But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed."

This passage is Paul speaking about the churches of Judea.
They were definitely churches.
They HEARD ONLY that Paul who persecuted them now preached the faith. The faith which Paul once destroyed was the faith of the little flock believing remnant of Israel. They believed only that Jesus was Christ, the Son of God. That they HEARD ONLY of Paul's conversion means they hadn't heard Paul's gospel, which means they weren't in the body of Christ.
This does indeed prove there is a little flock church.

 

[Soyeong]

[Galatians 1:22 KJV] "And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:"
[Galatians 1:23 KJV] "But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed."

This passage is Paul speaking about the churches of Judea.
They were definitely churches.
They HEARD ONLY that Paul who persecuted them now preached the faith. The faith which Paul once destroyed was the faith of the little flock believing remnant of Israel. They believed only that Jesus was Christ, the Son of God. That they HEARD ONLY of Paul's conversion means they hadn't heard Paul's gospel, which means they weren't in the body of Christ.
This does indeed prove there is a little flock church.

In Galatians 1:22, it directly states that the churches of Judea were in Christ and I don't see how you can try to argue that anyone who is in Christ is not part of the body of Christ, moreover, being in Christ means that they had heard and believed the Gospel of the Kingdom/Grace that both Christ and Paul taught. In Galatians 1:23, it does not imply that they had not heard the content of the faith that Paul preached, but rather the fact that it equates the faith that Paul preached with the Fatih that he persecuted and the fact that they knew the faith that he persecuted means that they also knew the Gospel of the Kingdom/Grace that Paul preached without needing to hear it from him personally.

 

[Doug]

In Galatians 1:22, it directly states that the churches of Judea were in Christ and I don't see how you can try to argue that anyone who is in Christ is not part of the body of Christ, moreover, being in Christ means that they had heard and believed the Gospel of the Kingdom/Grace that both Christ and Paul taught. In Galatians 1:23, it does not imply that they had not heard the content of the faith that Paul preached, but rather the fact that it equates the faith that Paul preached with the Fatih that he persecuted and the fact that they knew the faith that he persecuted means that they also knew the Gospel of the Kingdom/Grace that Paul preached without needing to hear it from him personally.

Both churches are in Christ
Paul didnt preach the gospel of the kingdom
Paul did preach the faith he once destroyed which was that Jesus was Christ the Son of God to Jews in the synagogues and this is what the churches in Judea believed. The name of Jesus was preached by Jesus and the disciples
It still remains the churches in Judea didnt say they heard Paul's gospel

 

[Soyeong]

Both churches are in Christ
Paul didnt preach the gospel of the kingdom
Paul did preach the faith he once destroyed which was that Jesus was Christ the Son of God to Jews in the synagogues and this is what the churches in Judea believed. The name of Jesus was preached by Jesus and the disciples
It still remains the churches in Judea didnt say they heard Paul's gospel

Paul also preached the Gospel of the Kingdom/Grace based on the Law of Moses:

Acts 14:21-22 When they had preached the gospel to that city and had made many disciples, they returned to Lystra and to Iconium and to Antioch, 22 strengthening the souls of the disciples, encouraging them to continue in the faith, and saying that through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God.

Acts 20:24-25 But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God. 25 And now, behold, I know that none of you among whom I have gone about proclaiming the kingdom will see my face again.

Acts 28:23 When they had appointed a day for him, they came to him at his lodging in greater numbers. From morning till evening he expounded to them, testifying to the kingdom of God and trying to convince them about Jesus both from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets.

It still remains that the faith that God persecuted and he faith that he preached were the same so they had heard the same Gospel that he preached.

 

[Doug]

Paul also preached the Gospel of the Kingdom/Grace based on the Law of Moses:

Acts 14:21-22 When they had preached the gospel to that city and had made many disciples, they returned to Lystra and to Iconium and to Antioch, 22 strengthening the souls of the disciples, encouraging them to continue in the faith, and saying that through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God.

Acts 20:24-25 But I do not account my life of any value nor as precious to myself, if only I may finish my course and the ministry that I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God. 25 And now, behold, I know that none of you among whom I have gone about proclaiming the kingdom will see my face again.

Acts 28:23 When they had appointed a day for him, they came to him at his lodging in greater numbers. From morning till evening he expounded to them, testifying to the kingdom of God and trying to convince them about Jesus both from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets.

It still remains that the faith that God persecuted and he faith that he preached were the same so they had heard the same Gospel that he preached.

The kingdom of God includes heaven and earth

Paul preached a heavenly kingdom................[2 Timothy 4:18 KJV] "And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve [me] unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom [be] glory for ever and ever. Amen."

 

[Soyeong]

The kingdom of God includes heaven and earth

Paul preached a heavenly kingdom................[2 Timothy 4:18 KJV] "And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve [me] unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom [be] glory for ever and ever. Amen."

The earthly Kingdom is a reflection of the heavenly Kingdom and Paul taught both.

 

[Makkwheel]

[Galatians 1:22 KJV] "And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:"
[Galatians 1:23 KJV] "But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed."

This passage is Paul speaking about the churches of Judea.
They were definitely churches.
They HEARD ONLY that Paul who persecuted them now preached the faith. The faith which Paul once destroyed was the faith of the little flock believing remnant of Israel. They believed only that Jesus was Christ, the Son of God. That they HEARD ONLY of Paul's conversion means they hadn't heard Paul's gospel, which means they weren't in the body of Christ.
This does indeed prove there is a little flock church.

1 Thessalonians 2:14 For you, brothers, became imitators of Gods churches in Judea, which are in Christ Jesus: You suffered from your own countrymen the same things those churches suffered from the Jews, who killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and also drove us out.

 

[RandyDawson]

[Galatians 1:22 KJV] "And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:"
[Galatians 1:23 KJV] "But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed."

This passage is Paul speaking about the churches of Judea.
They were definitely churches.
They HEARD ONLY that Paul who persecuted them now preached the faith. The faith which Paul once destroyed was the faith of the little flock believing remnant of Israel. They believed only that Jesus was Christ, the Son of God. That they HEARD ONLY of Paul's conversion means they hadn't heard Paul's gospel, which means they weren't in the body of Christ.
This does indeed prove there is a little flock church.

Paul taught the gospel of Jesus Christ. The new covenant and he agreed with Jesus' teachings 1 Timothy 6:3-5

He didn't start his own cult and stop serving Jesus

 

[Davy]

[Galatians 1:22 KJV] "And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:"
[Galatians 1:23 KJV] "But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed."

This passage is Paul speaking about the churches of Judea.
They were definitely churches.
They HEARD ONLY that Paul who persecuted them now preached the faith. The faith which Paul once destroyed was the faith of the little flock believing remnant of Israel. They believed only that Jesus was Christ, the Son of God. That they HEARD ONLY of Paul's conversion means they hadn't heard Paul's gospel, which means they weren't in the body of Christ.
This does indeed prove there is a little flock church.

That statement in red is such a huge... stick... of baloney!


Eph 2:19-22
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In Whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In Whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
KJV


Since Apostle Paul himself said that the FOUNDATION OF CHRIST'S CHURCH is built upon the Apostles and prophets (i.e., Old Testament prophets), that means the EARLY FOUNDATION OF THE BODY OF CHRIST!

That is why your doctrine you got from men is FALSE.

 

[RandyDawson]

That statement in red is such a huge... stick... of baloney!

Have they started their own baloney doctrine?
Is that like a baloney cult then?

 

[Davy]

Have they started their own baloney doctrine?
Is that like a baloney cult then?

Yes pard, the false pre-trib rapture school started that huge stick of baloney, trying to pass it off as a thick juicy Texas steak!

 

[RandyDawson]

Yes pard, the false pre-trib rapture school started that huge stick of baloney, trying to pass it off as a thick juicy Texas steak!

That's just goofy.

After 2nd Thess everyone knows its mid trib

 

[Davy]

That's just goofy.

After 2nd Thess everyone knows its mid trib

Sad to break the news to ya, but a mid-trib rapture is still... the idea of a rapture 'prior'... to the "great tribulation". It's just another stick of baloney, but a smaller one.

Per Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27, Lord Jesus revealed that His future coming to gather His saints will happen AFTER... the tribulation. Apostle Paul showed this too in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 when he revealed Jesus will descend with the asleep saints, which must be resurrected first, and then at that same time those saints still alive will be caught up to Him and those resurrected saints Jesus brings with Him from Heaven. Per John 6, Lord Jesus showed He will raise up His saints on the LAST DAY, meaning the last day of this present world, which means after... the tribulation, for that will be the day Jesus will end the great tribulation.

 

[RandyDawson]

a mid-trib rapture is still... the idea of a rapture 'prior'... to the "great tribulation"

No, mid trib is like mid trib as in sometime in the middle of the great tribulation

Per Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27, Lord Jesus revealed that His future coming to gather His saints will happen AFTER... the tribulation. Apostle Paul showed this too in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 when he revealed Jesus will descend with the asleep saints, which must be resurrected first, and then at that same time those saints still alive will be caught up to Him and those resurrected saints Jesus brings with Him from Heaven. Per John 6, Lord Jesus showed He will raise up His saints on the LAST DAY, meaning the last day of this present world, which means after... the tribulation, for that will be the day Jesus will end the great tribulation.

Sounds like you are believing for going through the great tribulation.

According to your faith it'll be done unto you so enjoy the great trib. Send me a post card!

 

[Davy]

No, mid trib is like mid trib as in sometime in the middle of the great tribulation

That's right, mid-trib is about a rapture by Christ at the MIDDLE of the "great tribulation". But that idea is NOT written in God's Word, because like I showed you already, Jesus revealed His coming to gather His Church will be AFTER... the great tribulation, not at the middle of it.

And yes, Christ's Church will... be going through the "great tribulation". Who do you think Lord Jesus was referring to in His Olivet discourse where He said He would shorten the tribulation for His elect's sake? Who would miss that Scripture and fact showing His elect go through the great tribulation??

Matt 24:21-22
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
KJV

Who would even begin to think that Christ's elect don't involve His Church??

 

[Davy]

According to your faith it'll be done unto you so enjoy the great trib. Send me a post card!

Since you said that smart remark, it's time for me to lay down the hammer, being very, very serious.

At the end of Luke 17 Lord Jesus mentioned that two would be in the field, one 'taken' and the other left.

When Jesus' disciples asked Him, "Where, Lord?", Jesus said that wheresoever the body is, that is where the eagles will be gathered together. In the Matthew 24:28 version of His answer He used the word "carcase" instead of body.

So what kind of bird goes after a DEAD CARCASE? A vulture or buzzard. Jesus answered His disciples using that as a metaphor for where the first one TAKEN will go to; to those fowls put for Satan and his host.

Therefore, I won't... be sending you any postcards when you find yourself gathered like a dead carcase to Satan's host, because the false-Messiah is coming first, and it will be Satan and his angels de facto here on earth in plain sight.