SHOULD I BE WATER BAPTIZED?

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When I read the bible I see something more amazing that water cleaning a person...I see the blood of Christ doing the cleansing...not water.

1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin.
Why do you transpose ...body cleansing...from sin cleansing...per the Bible?

The blood of Christ establishes the umbrella of....grace...under which we may be forgiven of sin if we repent of our sins and are baptized in water...thereby acknowledging Christ as our Savior.
 

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I would tell newbies to listen to Jesus - > water baptism is commanded.

All of the apostles, including Paul, baptized believers in water.

Being baptized in water doesn’t require anyone to do all of the law of Moses. Baptism in water is a part of, is obedience to, the Messiah’s law.
Pleas re state...not clear?
 

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We must cleanse our heart/soul of sin. Baptism is required.
Acts 2 38 et al.
From the way you wrote it...heart/soul...our heart is symbolic of our soul. Just as baptism of water is symbolic of being cleansed by the blood of Christ Jesus.

Acts 2:38 tells us to repent and be baptized because of our salvation.
 

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From the way you wrote it...heart/soul...our heart is symbolic of our soul. Just as baptism of water is symbolic of being cleansed by the blood of Christ Jesus.

Acts 2:38 tells us to repent and be baptized because of our salvation.
Not because of.......for sin cleansing as part of tepentnance.....to qualify for eternal salvation.
 

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Not so....equal to born again...not saved...here on earth. Don't take things out of context.
Saved is when Christ invites us to enter the era of eternity........saved...HE DECIDES THAT .....after physical death.
So, you don't know if you're saved?
 

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Why do you transpose ...body cleansing...from sin cleansing...per the Bible?

The blood of Christ establishes the umbrella of....grace...under which we may be forgiven of sin if we repent of our sins and are baptized in water...thereby acknowledging Christ as our Savior.
Sorry, I'm not worked based like you.

Would you like to meet the real Jesus?
 

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So, you don't know if you're saved?
Correct...we can know that we are born again ......by repentance including water baptism. Then by living a righteous life ...until the end.....we are eligible for approval for eternal salvation upon Christs' review after physical death
 

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You don't qualify for eternal salvation.....it's a free gift.
Would you like to meet the real Jesus?
LOL...well then dont repent, dont be baptized and dont live a righteous life and see how far you get towards eternal salvation when you decease.
The free gift is grace...the umbrella of forgiveness ......given free to us by Christ's sacrifice on the cross, with standards we must meet to receive such.

That is the real Jesus. Hopefully u will get to know Him and keep His word.
 

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I’m speaking about the law of Messiah, not the Mosaic law.

Every believer of and in the Messiah should be baptized in water, as he commanded and as the apostles and elders obeyed.

Teaching newbies that they should‘t be baptized in water is teaching newbies not to listen to and obey the Messiah.
That is not scriptural.

The Bible and commandments is/are not the Messiah's law...the Bible contains God's commandments. The Messiah is the enforcer of God's laws.
 
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Correct...we can know that we are born again ......by repentance including water baptism. Then by living a righteous life ...until the end.....we are eligible for approval for eternal salvation upon Christs' review after physical death
Considering you don't live a righteous life your religion says you're going to hell. That's quite a problem for you.

Would you like to meet the real Jesus?
 

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LOL...well then dont repent, dont be baptized and dont live a righteous life and see how far you get towards eternal salvation when you decease.
The free gift is grace...the umbrella of forgiveness ......given free to us by Christ's sacrifice on the cross, with standards we must meet to receive such.

That is the real Jesus. Hopefully u will get to know Him and keep His word.
Where is your line of theological reasoning from the bible?
 

gpresdo

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Where is your line of theological reasoning from the bible?
Please try studying all these references. They will help you;
Babtism is Required


Peter 3: 21.... whereunto even baptism doth also now save us...

John 3:5 .......Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.


Acts 2;38-....Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 22;16... And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.


Galations 3:26...... For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

KJV Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

KJV Matthew 3:14... But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comst thou to me? 15. Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now, for thus it becometh us to fulfil all rightesousness. Then He suffered Him.

KJV Matthew 28:19..... Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:.

Acts 8:12-18: But when they believed Philip as he preached the things concerning the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, both men and women were baptized.
Quote from Billy Graham that is note worthy;
....Also, to clarify I did not say remission of sin takes place at repentance. Scripture makes it clear that it occurs upon obedience to water baptism in the name of the Lord Jesus. Each is a step of faith, along with receiving the Holy Ghost, in the process of one's spiritual rebirth

.."Paul explains the doctrinal significance of what occurs when one is baptized. His explanation is found in his letter to those who had already been obedient to the command.

Paul tells the Roman Christians what actually occurred when they were/are baptized; they were baptized into His death. Being buried with Jesus into His death resulted in their sin being destroyed.

Even though Paul explains this concept, the NEW AGE RELIGION TEACHING is......... that water baptism is nothing other than a mere public display.......... And that is so far removed from the truth.

Keep in mind that Satan knows if he can continue to perpetuate that lie ...... he can keep people from entering the kingdom of God. Thus He has proven scripture which says ...in the end times there will be ...great delusions.....they are here.

Conclusion....teaching that baptism is not necessary is violation of Rev. 22;19.... And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifith these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
(Also two other books of the Bible says the same).

Written from KJV 1611 edition analysis....1996.

There are many more references
 

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Should I be water baptized into Confusion?:

No, Absolutely not! What I should do is "study God's Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided":


ONE Baptism today, Under God's Amazing Grace?:

Which Is It?
Each of us will study and decide for our own self, right?:

I choose out of these Three, Only ONE [ Spiritual ] Baptism "By The Holy Spirit":

Three Baptism Scriptural Summary!:

LORD JESUS, please open our hearts to All of Thy Truth. Amen:


Prophecy/Law: ►►► The Twelve WERE SENT to {water} baptize! ◄◄◄
The TWO "Main" (of 12) baptismS =
A) water, For remission of sins!:
(Matthew 3:5-6; Mark 1:4; Luke 3:3; John 1:31; Luke 7:29-30; Acts 10:37)
(Matthew 28:19; Mark 16:16; Acts 2:38; Acts 22:16; Ezekiel 36:25 AV)
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B) "WITH" The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders!
(Isaiah 44:3; Matthew 3:11; Mark 1:8, 16:17-18; Luke 24:49; Joel 2:28;
Acts 2:17-18, 38; Acts 8:15-17; Acts 11:16 AV)
Prophecy / Covenants / Law

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!" (BBS)

Mystery / GRACE!:
►►► Paul Was Not Sent to { water } baptize! Why Not?: ◄◄◄
Does not God Specifically Teach:

Today: Only One Baptism = "BY" The One Spirit = God's Operation,
Spiritually "Identifying" members In ( The One Body Of ) CHRIST!!
(Ephesians 4:5; Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27;
Romans 6:3-4; 1 Corinthians 12:13 AV)

Timing
Of This One and Only One Spiritual Baptism, Today, Under Grace?:

"That we should be to The Praise Of His Glory, who first trusted In Christ. ​
In Whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard The Word Of Truth, The Gospel ​
of your Salvation: In Whom also after that ye believed, ye Were Sealed With ​
That Holy Spirit Of Promise, Which Is The Earnest Of our inheritance Until The ​
Redemption Of The Purchased Possession, Unto The Praise Of His Glory."​

Amen.

God Excludes water baptism, Today, Under Grace, Correct?

Grace, Peace, Mercy, and Love!

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:

The Bible: The BIG Picture


Amen.


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