Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

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Spiritual Israelite

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Olive trees and candlesticks doesn't answer dead bodies in a street, turning symbolically into the church "sorry", if that's your only response it fails
It's all symbolic, but you insist on trying to interpret the most highly symbolic book in the Bible as literally as you can. Your approach to interpreting the book of Revelation is ridiculous. Just keep believing the nonsense you want to believe since that is what you will do no matter what I say.
 

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It's all symbolic, but you insist on trying to interpret the most highly symbolic book in the Bible as literally as you can. Your approach to interpreting the book of Revelation is ridiculous. Just keep believing the nonsense you want to believe since that is what you will do no matter what I say.
You didn't answer with a explanation, why are you running away from a detailed response?

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Detailed Info:

Fact is its all future literal, no other explanation, they will have literal bodies that die, a literal street, a literal world tormented and in celebration exchanging literal gifts, literal bodies raised standing on literal physical feet as a literal world watches


Please give your explanation on the "Detailed" info given above in bold red, and it's "Symbolic Representation" waiting?

Jesus Is The Lord
 

Spiritual Israelite

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You didn't answer with a explanation, why are you running away from a detailed response?
I have given many details regarding my understanding of the two witnesses. I don't need to detail every word in the chapter. Get serious. Not every word has a symbolic equivalent. You obviously don't understand how symbolism works. What is being symbolized is the heavy persecution of the church in the time before Christ returns.
 

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What is being symbolized is the heavy persecution of the church in the time before Christ returns.
You didn't answer above with a explanation to the bold red below, why are you running away from a detailed response?

Once Again:

Detailed Info:

Fact is its all future literal, no other explanation, they will have literal bodies that die, a literal street, a literal world tormented and in celebration exchanging literal gifts, literal bodies raised standing on literal physical feet as a literal world watches


Please give your explanation on the "Detailed" info given above in bold red, and it's "Symbolic Representation" waiting?

Jesus Is The Lord

Revelation 11:7-12KJV
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.
 

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You didn't answer above with a explanation to the bold red below, why are you running away from a detailed response?
I don't run away from anything. Should I accuse you of running away when you have no explanation for why the two witnesses are called two candlesticks? Any time I ask you that you refer to a passage that speaks of two olive trees and not two candlesticks. What a waste of time it is trying to discuss these things with you. I'm not wasting any more time. I'm done. You won't even do what you expect me to do. You are completely unreasonable. I have better things to do than to deal with a completely unreasonable person like you.
 

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Olive trees and candlesticks doesn't answer dead bodies in a street, turning symbolically into the church "sorry", if that's your only response it fails

You're not going to take described dead bodies in a street and claim it represents the church

Just as Tribulationsigns tried to claim the dead bodies in the street symbolically represented the Church who lost its testimony and this represented dead bodies in the street "Laughable"!

The book of Revelation has literal and symbolic in it, you're not going to control my interpretation, it's literal and symbolic, context is everything

Rev Chap 11 You take dead bodies, a street, a world watching in celebration exchanging gifts because the witnesses tormented them "Plagues", bodies being raised from the dead standing on their feet, and you want to simply disregard all this detail with it represents (The Church) ain't gonna happen, at least Tribsigns gave it a try in his response to explain the detail, and his explanation is way out in left field and laughable


Plus if that is supposed to be the rapture of the church, why does it happen before the Amill second coming?


Detailed Info:

Fact is its all future literal, no other explanation, they will have literal bodies that die, a literal street, a literal world tormented and in celebration exchanging literal gifts, literal bodies raised standing on literal physical feet as a literal world watches

Symbolism is fairly easy to spot because it is exaggerated and usually explained but symbolism is rarely, if at all, expressed in simple and plain language.
 

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I don't run away from anything. Should I accuse you of running away when you have no explanation for why the two witnesses are called two candlesticks? Any time I ask you that you refer to a passage that speaks of two olive trees and not two candlesticks. What a waste of time it is trying to discuss these things with you. I'm not wasting any more time. I'm done. You won't even do what you expect me to do. You are completely unreasonable. I have better things to do than to deal with a completely unreasonable person like you.
Once Again:

I asked you a question regarding your posting please respond, and stop using the excuse and diversion that I need to respond to your post, as I am responding with a question that your running from, waiting?

Quote Spiritual Israelite Post #8:
Why would people be required to go up to Jerusalem to worship in light of what Jesus said here...

Once Again:

"Please interpret the time and place Zechariah 14:16 will or has taken place?"

Please explain the words, (To Keep The Feast Of Tabernacles), what, when, and where?

Zechariah 14:16KJV
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.