I always thought that Jesus was all about treating everyone as equals?
He turned over tables and taught about dividing riches.
He definitely wasn't a capitalist.
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He turned over tables and taught about dividing riches.
He definitely wasn't a capitalist.
RandyDawson
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So you got Jesus down as being a godless communist then?
Capitalism is based on performance and production which is seedtime and harvest which is what God built His kingdom on -
Mark 4:26 (see Genesis 1:11 also).
Many in our society produce nothing and still want to get paid.
2 Thessalonians 3:10: “For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.”
What do you think?
He definitely wasn't godless, and he definitely wasn't a capitalist.
RandyDawson
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He actually was a capitalist which is why He gave instructions in His word on how rich people should behave teaching that having wealth is a responsibility that should be used for the Kingdom of God. Just because some men are ungodly and misuse wealth does not mean the Lord is not a capitalist.
In God's kingdom those that won't work should not eat.
2 Thessalonians 3:10: “For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.”
You think 2 Thessalonians 3:10 should be ignored?
Jesus repeatedly commands his followers to care for and give to the poor, treating acts of mercy toward the needy as service to God.
Key Biblical Teachings and Verses
Matthew 19:21 (and Mark 10:21): Jesus tells a wealthy young man to sell all his possessions, give the money to the poor to gain treasure in heaven, and follow Him.
Matthew 25:35-40: Jesus teaches that whatever is done for the "least of these" brothers and sisters—feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and caring for the sick—is done directly to Him.
Matthew 6:2-4: Jesus instructs believers to give to the needy in secret, rather than showing off for public praise.
Luke 12:33: Jesus advises his disciples to sell their possessions and give to the poor, providing themselves with a treasure in heaven that does not fail.
Luke 14:12-14: Jesus suggests that when hosting a meal, invite the poor, crippled, lame, and blind rather than the rich who can pay
you back.
Key Biblical Teachings and Verses
Matthew 19:21 (and Mark 10:21): Jesus tells a wealthy young man to sell all his possessions, give the money to the poor to gain treasure in heaven, and follow Him.
Matthew 25:35-40: Jesus teaches that whatever is done for the "least of these" brothers and sisters—feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and caring for the sick—is done directly to Him.
Matthew 6:2-4: Jesus instructs believers to give to the needy in secret, rather than showing off for public praise.
Luke 12:33: Jesus advises his disciples to sell their possessions and give to the poor, providing themselves with a treasure in heaven that does not fail.
Luke 14:12-14: Jesus suggests that when hosting a meal, invite the poor, crippled, lame, and blind rather than the rich who can pay
you back.
RandyDawson
Member
None of which is godless communism which murders millions and millions of people in cold blood all for not wanting to be good comrades and live under communist fascism or moslem fascism either..
Sounds like you are caught up in the zeitgeist (the spirit of the age)
RandyDawson
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Anybody who thinks Jesus is a godless communist must not have understood hardly anything they read if they did in fact read the bible.
Not a preoccupation. Just noticing what's going on in numerous places around the country and understanding islam having spent time studying their false religion to see what they are all about. They have the same mandate the communists do - world domination.
No, I don't vote at all and haven't in years. Politics is a clown show don't you know.
Did you vote for the godless liberal candidates?
I'm in the UK.
I abstained.
I can't vote for any party that supports the monarchy, so I don't bother. I've got better things to do with my time..... Like planning my funeral.
RandyDawson
Member
Isn't the king just a figure head not having any power to do much?
Communists are in fact godless so if someone says Jesus is a communist then that is including Him being godless.
No good communist believes in God. That's because communism is of the devil and does not agree with seedtime and harvest which is what God setup. He is not mocked, what we sow is what we reap. Those that don't work are sowing nothing and in return they should receive nothing.
2 Corinthians 9:6
He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
The Lord is going to reward all of us according to our works so some will be rewarded more than others. That is what the concept of capitalism is built upon. Communism seeks for everyone to get the same small morsel and be happy with it while all the communist leaders live as fat cats, high on the hog. That's exactly how socialism and communism always works.
But they lie on the front end to get people to embrace it claiming "we're much nicer socialists, we would never do the things other communist regimes have done in the past". These people are godless so they always lie.
The Early Church:
In the New Testament book of Acts, early believers in Jerusalem voluntarily shared their money and possessions among themselves. Proponents of Christian communism point to this as an early communal model.
Hmmmm. It's very confusing.
In the New Testament book of Acts, early believers in Jerusalem voluntarily shared their money and possessions among themselves. Proponents of Christian communism point to this as an early communal model.
Hmmmm. It's very confusing.
RandyDawson
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That was during a time when the Jews religion was out to destroy Christians and Christianity they sought to pool their resources.
There is no instructions in God's Word for Christians to become godless communists.
What do you do with this truth from God's Word?
2 Thessalonians 3:10: “For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.”
In godless communism people can be lazy and do nothing and still get the same payday and those who work. Soon those that work see this and decide, "why should I bother working when I'll get paid just like the lazy people that don't work" and before long nobody is working and there's very little production resulting in shortages and very poor quality
You should spend some time studying how bad communism was under the Soviet Union and be sure and note where the murdered millions in cold blood. You up for that?
King Charles
Official Title:
He is legally and constitutionally the Supreme Governor of the Church of England, a title held by British monarchs since Elizabeth I via the Act of Supremacy 1558.
Ceremonial Authority:
His role is largely ceremonial. He formally appoints high-ranking church members, such as bishops and archbishops, on the advice of the Prime Minister.
Defender of the Faith:
He holds the historic title Fidei Defensor (Defender of the Faith), which is inscribed on British coinage.
Church of Scotland:
He is not the head of the Church of Scotland. Instead, he vows to preserve its Presbyterian system and acts as an ordinary member when attending services there.
Multi-Faith Stance:
While maintaining his constitutional duties to the Church of England, he has emphasized a commitment to protecting religious freedom and fostering dialogue across multiple faiths.
RandyDawson
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RandyDawson
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That doesn't mean a whole lot these days.
Many colleges and universities white wash communism to make it sound like it's a good system.
It is not.