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Do you think you no longer sin?

Do you think you know every sin you commit?

Cling to your salvation very hard! With all your strength! I hope you make it!

I'm trusting Jesus and His promise.

Much love!
I trust Jesus and His word. It is satan who says we can sin and not die. And by "die in your sin" I mean a total rejection and renouncement of the faith you once believed would save you. We have been warned about this. If you believe you can die in sin and still make it to glory you are not trusting Jesus. You are trusting satan and his original lie.
 

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Views don't say anything, people do.

Meanwhile, God says:


Colossians 3:1-4 (KJV)
1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

Anyone who is raised with Christ now (Romans 6) will appear with Him in glory, or don't you believe that?

Here is another:

1 John 3:1-3 (KJV)
1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

If you are His child now, you will be like Him then. Or don't you believe that?

Philippians 3:20-21 (LITV)
20 For our citizenship is in Heaven, from where we also wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,
21 who will transform our body of humiliation, for it to be conformed to His body of glory, according to the working of Him to be able even to subject all things under Himself.

If you are a citizen of heaven now, He will transform you then. Or don't you believe that?

Much love!
I am not talking about people who are walking with Jesus. I am talking about those that fall away. You seem to think that one can do that and still make.
 

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I trust Jesus and His word. It is satan who says we can sin and not die. And by "die in your sin" I mean a total rejection and renouncement of the faith you once believed would save you.
What Christian does that!

Show me one.

You are trusting satan and his original lie.
Hardly!! What a thing to say!

I'm trusting what God says, and you say what I am trusting is the Devil.

Make of that what you will.
 

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However, if you say "He turned away and died in his sin but he will still make it into glory." Then you have believed satan's original lie... go ahead and sin...you shall not surely die!
How would you define regeneration?

And it's nice to know you have stopped sinning, I think we all want that!

Unless you don't believe that if you sin it will kill you. Remember, Adam committed 1 ONE 1 only 1 sin and it cost everything.

Is your sin in telling the world that I'm believing the Devil, did that kill you? Are you back as a flesh man? No longer regenerate?

Seriously!

Adam sinned once and died. What about you?
 

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What Christian does that!

Show me one.
Joshua Harris – The former megachurch pastor and bestselling author of I Kissed Dating Goodbye publicly announced in 2019 that he was no longer a Christian, apologizing for his past teachings and joining the LGBTQ+ community in solidarity

Charles Templeton – A prominent evangelist and co-founder of Youth for Christ International alongside Billy Graham, Templeton later attended seminary, experienced deep theological doubts, and renounced his faith, writing Farewell to God

Paul Maxwell – A former writer for Desiring God with a PhD in theology, Maxwell publicly shared on social media that he no longer identified as a Christian

Hardly!! What a thing to say!

I'm trusting what God says, and you say what I am trusting is the Devil.

Make of that what you will.
I only say that IF you think one can totally forsake Christ and still be saved. If you say they were never saved to begin with...then that's a different story.
 

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Charles Templeton – A prominent evangelist and co-founder of Youth for Christ International alongside Billy Graham, Templeton later attended seminary, experienced deep theological doubts, and renounced his faith, writing Farewell to God
Have you actually read his writings? He said he never did believe. Did you know that?

I'll need to research the other two you mentioned. You should research this fellow. There is no confusion. He was a great orator, but when he went to seminary, he realized he didn't believe the Bible. He wasn't a Christian who renounced. He was a public speaker who was asked to fill in for a missing pastor, and discovered he was good at it, and enjoyed it. But when push came to shove, he realized this wasn't him.

Writing articles, speaking to a crowd, these are not what make you Christian.
 

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How would you define regeneration?
How do you define "twice dead and plucked by the roots"?
And it's nice to know you have stopped sinning, I think we all want that!
It is statements like this that let me know what kind of person you are and why you misread the bible. If you can't understand the words of a simple man like me how can you hope to understand the Almighty God and the mysteries of His word?
Unless you don't believe that if you sin it will kill you. Remember, Adam committed 1 ONE 1 only 1 sin and it cost everything.

Is your sin in telling the world that I'm believing the Devil, did that kill you? Are you back as a flesh man? No longer regenerate?

Seriously!

Adam sinned once and died. What about you?
I am not going to argue with you anymore. Discussions with you always decay into some kind of immature tantrum.
goodbye
 

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Have you actually read his writings? He said he never did believe. Did you know that?

I'll need to research the other two you mentioned. You should research this fellow. There is no confusion. He was a great orator, but when he went to seminary, he realized he didn't believe the Bible.
Everyone who falls away like this will claim they never believed. What's the surprise in that?
 

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I only say that IF you think one can totally forsake Christ and still be saved. If you say they were never saved to begin with...then that's a different story.
I'm just going to stick with what the Bible says. The regenerate never stop being regenerate, while pretenders fall away. Bottom line.

OSAS right down the line, and these kinds of arguments mean nothing when placed alongside Scripture.

These warnings? Don't be one of those telling yourself you are born again when you are not. Be warned!!
 

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Everyone who falls away like this will claim they never believed. What's the surprise in that?
Well, if you care about what the fellow says about himself, he never was a Christian. If you prefer your own opinion that he was, so that will make your case, feel free, but don't expect that I'll believe it. I've read a good bit that he himself wrote on this very topic, and you've got it wrong.

Tantrums aside.