Flat Earth Theory
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amigo de christo
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David i am not at all concerned with this my friend .@amigo de christo
OK my Brother in CHRIST = continue in Truth
Use this earth curvature calculator = Earth Curvature Calculator — Horizon, Drop & Hidden Height
Now LOOK-N-SEE the Level Plane of the Earth
Longest line of sight on earth photographed
This record is for the longest confirmed line of sight from the earth's surface. This record is measured in kilometres, with the equivalent measurement given in imperial units. For the purposes of the record, a line of sight is defined as a direct, straight-line distance at which two parts of...www.guinnessworldrecords.com
I must simply POINT to JESUS and to expose the well favored harlot who sits OVER THIS EARTH , whether it be round , falt or etc .
Big mama has taken this world my friend and is leading them all
to the day she calls PEACE N safety , but i call SUDDEN DESTRUCTION ,as in their own ON JESUS DAY .
OH yes david . THERE is a lying spirit at work . and this spirit
is now in the mouths of key leaders of the false religions as well as in christendom .
And they all preach , Come and let us be one , we are all serving the same GOD
and this is his will for PEACE on earth . And yet by its peace HAS DENIED THE GOSPEL , HAS DENIED
The very words of JESUS CHRIST . only that which is of anti christ would ever have done this david .
And more and more do gather now under the voices of these inclusive ones who pump
the ecumeincal lov e of a harlot unto this world and the peace of anti christ to them all .
Tick tock , TIMES running out and ALL WHO MADE and ALL WHO LOVED a lie , WILL surely be damned on JESUS day .
Tribulations and persecutions , delusions and wickedenss will ONLY increase .
The sheep will discern , but all else will not discern but will buy the inclusive lie .
JESUS has the sheep david . The devil has all others . and there be only ONE
way to be freed from the power of satan and of darkness and death and bondage . HIS NAME be JESUS THE CHRIST
and for to be saved ONE MUST BELIEVE on HIM . But if one cliams to do so and yet
BELIEVES NOT HIS WORDS but rather lies and a lie , They DO NOT KNOW HIM and their faith is dead .
@amigo de christo
OK my Brother in CHRIST = continue in Truth
Use this earth curvature calculator = Earth Curvature Calculator — Horizon, Drop & Hidden Height
Now LOOK-N-SEE the Level Plane of the Earth
Longest line of sight on earth photographed
This record is for the longest confirmed line of sight from the earth's surface. This record is measured in kilometres, with the equivalent measurement given in imperial units. For the purposes of the record, a line of sight is defined as a direct, straight-line distance at which two parts of...
Um......
LOL
Richard Jezik stood on a mountain peak about 3,000 meters above sea level. And those objects in the distance that photo marks were also peaks. Shkara, the object 493 km away, is a peak about 5,193 meters high.
When you stand on the beach in Old Saybrook, CT, and your eyes are roughly 2 meters above sea level, you look across Long Island Sound. If you look far enough to your left, you see open ocean, and you can see about 5 km before that's all you can see. Why? The curvature of the earth causes the earth to drop off.
BUT you can see Long Island from there, and that's about 14 km away. How is this possible?
It's because the land rises higher than the water. You can't see the water in the port at Orient Point, Long Island, but you can see LONG ISLAND from Old Saybrook, Connecticut. No matter how strong your binoculars or telescope is, you can't see the water lapping the beach at Orient Point, Long Island, but you can see the land of Long Island rising above the water.
If the earth was flat, all you'd need is a strong enough telescope and you could see the water lapping the beach at Orient Point.
But you can't.
It's because the earth isn't flat.
David in NJ
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You're not trusting in God's words concerning all the evidence from Scripture that is clearly seen and has been posted on this thread.
"Without faith it is impossible to please God"
David in NJ
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God created the phases of the moon for His Purpose = as found in Genesis and the Torah
Since the Moon is it's own light, as God has Said, the sun is not illuminating the moon as CLEARLY seen in broad daylight as shown.
Everyone will choose whom they will believe.
I'm asking you super duper simple questions that you should be able to answer within seconds.
Like: how does your GPS know where you are in the world? Answering "cell towers" isn't an answer. HOW DO WE HAVE SUCH ACCURATE MAPS such that we can know exactly where we are in the world?
Like: where can I find a reasonably accurate flat earth map?
Like: How come, if the moon emits its own light, and doesn't reflect the light from the sun, when we see the moon in that video that YOU posted, the rest of the moon that's facing the earth isn't emitting light?
What's happened here David is that you have adopted a very narrow, very particular interpretation of a handful of passages, the vast majority of which are clearly figurative language, and have constructed a narrative that the earth is flat. And despite all the evidence RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE that it's not true, and despite not being able to provide a simple thing like a flat earth map, you cling to this belief, thinking that the rest of the world that operates in a round world is just deceived.
All because you're clinging to a narrative that, by your own admission, isn't even remotely related to the gospel.
Uh....why is the part of the moon that's facing the earth NOT emitting its own light in the very video you posted? Why is only a sliver of it emitting light? Did God turn that part of the moon OFF?
David in NJ
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Turn away from wilfull ignorance in unbelief.
The 'Curvature Calculator' allows you to adjust the observation height to that of the height of the mountain peak
Observer height of your eyes above the ground or water
5,000ft
Target distanceHorizontal distance to the object you're viewing
306mi
Unit system
Metric (m / km)Imperial (ft / mi)
Atmospheric refractionAccounts for the slight bending of light near the horizon
Distance to horizon 86.59 mi
Total drop of curvature 11.81 mi
Obscured height 6.08 miles = BELOW the supposed earth's curve
David in NJ
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The Holy Spirit inspired me to be a lover of Truth = HE directs me in the Scriptures to SEE Truth from lies.
No matter what the lie is, GOD has it covered in His Word for us to Know.
Just imagine how powerful the Body of Christ would be if they 'collectively' submitted to God's words!!!
Did JESUS Say this in vain? = "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the Mouth of God"
New International Version
I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought.
New Living Translation
I appeal to you, dear brothers and sisters, by the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ, to live in harmony with each other. Let there be no divisions in the church. Rather, be of one mind, united in thought and purpose.
English Standard Version
I appeal to you, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be united in the same mind and the same judgment.
Berean Standard Bible
I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree together, so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be united in mind and conviction.
Berean Literal Bible
Now I exhort you⁺, brothers, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you⁺ may speak the same thing and that there may be no divisions among you⁺, but that you⁺ may be made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment.
King James Bible
Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
New King James Version
Now I plead with you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.
The Holy Spirit inspired ME to see that YOUR interpretation of Scripture is flawed, since you can't even tell what's literal and what's figurative language in God's Word.
David in NJ
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i would refrain from lying as it is one of the Ten Commandments = "You shall not lie"
And the other one is "You shall not bear false witness"
You get to dictate what cell towers are used for and demand a different answer because it doesn't suit you??
You're accusing me of lying?
Oh I get it. Only YOU have this close personal relationship with God such that only YOU know God's truth and everyone else who doesn't agree with you clearly does NOT have this personal relationship with God.
Narcissist much?
David in NJ
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If sharing the Truth from God's word and from Creation is "narcissist", then the LORD Jesus Christ was the biggest narcissist to walk the earth.
Make it your desire to love the Truth of ALL that God has given for our Blessing = it is Joyful & Liberating
Take another look and allow your mind to see:
No, believing that YOU - and not the millions upon millions of believers who don't read those figurative texts in Scripture as literal, and who understand the world to be a sphere - have this divine pipeline to God that the rest of us born-again believers don't. THAT is narcissistic.
@amigo de christo
OK my Brother in CHRIST = continue in Truth
Use this earth curvature calculator = Earth Curvature Calculator — Horizon, Drop & Hidden Height
Now LOOK-N-SEE the Level Plane of the Earth
Longest line of sight on earth photographed
This record is for the longest confirmed line of sight from the earth's surface. This record is measured in kilometres, with the equivalent measurement given in imperial units. For the purposes of the record, a line of sight is defined as a direct, straight-line distance at which two parts of...
I ran this through chatgpt, taking a screen shot of the image of that photo and asking it to explain, to make this potentially understandable for you. Here's what it spit out.
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This is a fascinating photograph because it demonstrates just how far human vision can extend under the right conditions. The mountains in your picture are between 420 and 493 kilometers (261–306 miles) away.
The explanation involves three things working together:
- The elevation of the photographer.
- The elevation of the distant mountain peaks.
- The bending of light as it travels through Earth's atmosphere (atmospheric refraction).
1. Both ends of the line of sight are elevated
Richard Jezik was photographing from a mountain in the Karagöl area of northeastern Turkey.- His observation point was approximately 3,107 meters (10,194 feet) above sea level.
- Mount Shkhara, the most distant mountain in the photograph, is approximately 5,193 meters (17,037 feet) high.
Think of it this way: the photographer doesn't have to see around the Earth from sea level. He is looking from one elevated mountain toward another elevated mountain.
2. Each mountain has its own horizon
Here is the interesting mathematics.On a spherical Earth, the approximate distance to the horizon, without atmospheric refraction, is:
\[ D=3.57\sqrt{h} \]
Where:
- D is the distance in kilometers.
- h is the height in meters.
\[ 3.57\sqrt{3107}=199\text{ km} \]
For the top of Mount Shkhara:
\[ 3.57\sqrt{5193}=257\text{ km} \]
Add those together:
\[ 199+257=456\text{ km} \]
Important result
Even without atmospheric refraction, the two elevated positions have a combined geometric horizon distance of approximately 456 kilometers.
That is why the elevation of both mountains matters so much.
3. Atmospheric refraction extends the distance
This is the part that makes the photograph especially interesting.Light does not travel in a perfectly straight line through Earth's atmosphere.
Air near the surface is generally denser than air higher up. As light travels through these layers, its path bends slightly downward, following the curvature of the Earth.
This phenomenon is called atmospheric refraction.
Under ordinary atmospheric conditions, refraction can extend the geometric viewing distance by as much as approximately 9%.
DOI.org+1
Let's apply that to the photograph:
The viewing distance to Mount Shkhara
Geometric horizon distance
456 km
With 8.1% additional reach
493 km
493 km
Approximately 306 milesThat is remarkably close to the actual Guinness record distance of 493.07 kilometers.
4. Why was the photograph taken at sunrise?
The atmospheric conditions were particularly important.According to Guinness, Jezik:
- Climbed for approximately 10 hours to reach his observation point.
- Set up his equipment during the night.
- Experienced temperatures around -12°C (10°F).
- Waited until sunrise to capture the photograph.
Atmospheric conditions: Temperature differences between atmospheric layers affect how much light bends. Certain stable conditions and temperature inversions can extend visibility considerably.
Visual contrast: The distant mountains appear as dark silhouettes against the brighter sky around sunrise. This makes otherwise nearly invisible mountain peaks much easier to photograph.
Guinness World Records+1
5. What does this photograph actually demonstrate?
There is an important distinction worth making.The photograph demonstrates that an elevated observer can see extremely distant elevated objects, even when the distance exceeds the combined geometric horizon distances calculated without refraction.
It does not mean that the entire distant mountain range is visible. The visible portions are primarily the elevated peaks.
And it does not mean atmospheric refraction is imaginary or an arbitrary explanation. It is a measurable optical phenomenon that scientists account for in surveying, astronomy, and long-distance visibility calculations.
My takeaway: The remarkable thing about this photograph is that the combination of two high elevations, Earth's atmosphere, and exceptionally favorable weather makes it possible to photograph a mountain more than 300 miles away while standing on another mountain.
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Then I asked it to make an image illustrating how this works. Here's what it gave me.
But....but....conspiracy! (probably chatgpt is part of that conspiracy!)
RandyDawson
Active Member
They'll just say it's round and flat.
The only way to prove the earth is round to these people is for them to take a ride on a space ship that circles the world a few times.
They can't answer the questions which is why they are evading them.
They'd find a way to not believe it even then, so dug in are they on this position.
The problem is, you run to the demonic AI for your answers rather than the Word of God.Then I asked it to make an image illustrating how this works. Here's what it gave me.
But....but....conspiracy! (probably chatgpt is part of that conspiracy!)
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