Speaking in tongues?

[Dryhn]

. Thank you for your post. I'm very familiar with Justin Peters stance on the Spiritual Gifts.

Dryhn, May God, Mightily bless you and your loved ones, In Jesus's Name!

Hi CJ.
I'm not too sure what your stance is on tongues.
Mine is based on the teachings of Paul in 1 Cor 14

I believe today they continue but only in a dialect that no-one knows or understands and not as in Acts 2:4-6

re healing as the Apostles were able to do I am unaware of any where laying of hands onto a terminally ill baby has resulted in said baby recovering within hours.
Of course there have been claimed healings in those of sound mind but we must not forget the power of positive thinking/belief

I have no doubt that if GOD so desired He can MIRACOUSLY heal with the hands of other as the NT Apostles were able to prior to losing that ability eg Paul 1 Tim 5:23

 

[Dryhn]

what I was trying to convey ... a person speaking in a language unknown to the speaker but known by the hearer/s

Thank you Mark.
That is Acts 2:4-6 type tongues and was used to spread the gospel/good news to those where it was not available and as yet TODAY I have not seen any confirmed verifiable cases - you are welcome to list ANY for discussion :)

The logical setting for such an event would be missionary work where they go to spread the Gospel to remote native tribes yet today they must first learn the language.

 

[Chaplain James]

Hi CJ.
I'm not too sure what your stance is on tongues.
Mine is based on the teachings of Paul in 1 Cor 14

I believe today they continue but only in a dialect that no-one knows or understa

Hi CJ.
I'm not too sure what your stance is on tongues.

Dryhn, it's a blessing that what you think about my stance on spiritual gifts is irrelevant, to me and to the God, I serve. I say that with the love of Christ. I'm a bond servant of Jesus Christ. My life is not my own. Jesus, is my Lord, Savior and Commander.

 

[markalan]

Thank you Mark.
That is Acts 2:4-6 type tongues and was used to spread the gospel/good news to those where it was not available and as yet TODAY I have not seen any confirmed verifiable cases - you are welcome to list ANY for discussion :)

All I can do is share what I have personal knowledge of ... as others in this forum have done.
There are many testimonies online ... but I cannot verify what I have not experienced.
It comes down to spiritual discernment.

 

[markalan]

I have no doubt that if GOD so desired He can MIRACOUSLY heal with the hands of other as the NT Apostles were able to prior to losing that ability eg Paul 1 Tim 5:23

Read about Paul's miraculous ministry on Malta on his way to prison in Rome after he had left Timothy in Ephesus (Acts 28).
The examples of Timothy & Trophimus show that not everyone was healed even in the early church.

 

[Biblica]

I would, would you ? !!!!
Any believer who spread the Gospel in a language they NEVER PREVIOUSLY knew would grab EVERYONE that knows them, gather SWORN testimonies and spread it ALL OVER EVERYWHERE to bring glory to GOD

Please list some :)

So how can a woman in New England bring anyone to Jesus speaking Syriac?
There have been instances where missionaries have used tongues to share the gospel in foreign countries. I just heard a testimony on Heroes of Faith on Youtube, but I can't remember which one it was. You'll have to check it out for yourself. I think it was in Africa.
The best thing that brings people to God is not speaking in tongues and that is healing miracles, especially in Middle Eastern countries.

 

[Biblica]

The spiritual atmosphere
Do you accept the teaching/commandments from Paul ?
1 Cor 14:37
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

And Paul said not to quench the Spirit or forbid any to speak with tongues.

 

[Biblica]

Great, then she would be able to lay hands on critically ill babies and have them recover within hours

Any confirmations of that anywhere ?
TIA

Why don't you check out Heroes of Faith on Youtube. I think they have a video on her.

 

[rebuilder 454]

Hi CJ.
I'm not too sure what your stance is on tongues.
Mine is based on the teachings of Paul in 1 Cor 14

I believe today they continue but only in a dialect that no-one knows or understands and not as in Acts 2:4-6

re healing as the Apostles were able to do I am unaware of any where laying of hands onto a terminally ill baby has resulted in said baby recovering within hours.
Of course there have been claimed healings in those of sound mind but we must not forget the power of positive thinking/belief

I have no doubt that if GOD so desired He can MIRACOUSLY heal with the hands of other as the NT Apostles were able to prior to losing that ability eg Paul 1 Tim 5:23

Ever hear of cushings disease?
My dog had it and it is horrible.
A horrible death is the fruit of it.
It is terminal.

I have possibly the only dog on the planet that MIRACULOUSLY recovered supernaturally.

God is bigger than any devil.

God lead me into matt 18:18.
I claimed Matthew 18:18 over her for over 2 months everyday and probably over a 100 times a day.
I went to bat for her and I did not give up.
The only thing I heard from heaven was "stay with it".
And it truly seemed like nothing at all was happening. In fact, she got worse.
One night she lay there breathing heavily. And I knew she was dying, so I called my mother and I told her the bad news. And that we had failed, and I felt she would be dead by in the morning.
At 3:40 in the morning. My dog woke me up and ran to the door wanting to go outside. She jumped off the front porch and didn't even go down the steps and she ran to the back where the farmer has a plowed field, and she ran all around that field for an hour.
100% healed of cushings.

Get this.
The vet would not talk to me.
I went to another vet that knew cushings destructive outcome.
He did not believe me.
I said " i can prove it" do a blood test.
His jaw dropped when he saw it was near perfect.

See how it is? God does things and the skeptics spit on it.

I am opposite of a skeptic. I believe with every fiber God changes things.

BTW, they banned me from the cushings site.
Kicked me off.
Why? They said you give people false hope.

For me my walk with God is a wild ride.
For the skeptic it is status quo. No power.

 

[Chaplain James]

Derek Prince Ministries

 

[amigo de christo]

The spiritual atmosphere
Do you accept the teaching/commandments from Paul ?
1 Cor 14:37
If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

and not just from paul but from every letter written to us in that bible . including james , both peters , all three johns .
and jude and all four gopsels and the book of acts and etc .
SO speaking of paul , seeing you brought him up
HOW MANY SIT IN CHURCHES WHERE WOMEN lead them . cause before paul wrote that
HE was saying something concering such . THEN HE said what he did in that letter .
HOW many heed THAT . WHY do i see women pastors and women leading and teaching this people .
And if that was but the ONLY THING
LETS OPEN that bible to what john wrote and see WHO actually believes those SPIRIT inspired words .
WHO is a liar but he who denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST
he is not only a liar but ANTI CHRIST . so now i also ask
us WHY DO I SEE SO MANY sitting under ecumeincalism incluisivism and headed right into
its anti christ intefaith peace .
WHICH LIED TO ALL false religoins as IT DID to christendom .

 

[amigo de christo]

Great, then she would be able to lay hands on critically ill babies and have them recover within hours

Any confirmations of that anywhere ?
TIA

not only was this katheryn decieved but was a key player IN THE DECEPTOIN .
Dont judge ol amigo too harshly for calling her out as a total wolf in wool .
Nor that i am so gra ve in doing so .

 

[amigo de christo]

what I was trying to convey ... a person speaking in a language unknown to the speaker but known by the hearer/s

now on the surface what you just said ITS VERY VERY TRUE indeed .
Jews who had come to jerusalem for to worship
SOME from all nations heard them apostels speaking
Speaking as IF it had been the very langauge of the nation of which they had been born .
YET a whole lot of other jews THOUGHT IT WAS but NOISE and madness .
TONGUES IS REAL . but mark my words , IT AINT what ol sold out kenny was speaking on stage .
That man a devil in wool my friend . A devil in wool .
And it darn sure was not behind the tornoto curse either . Oh wait they called it the tornoto blessing , oh but a curse it was .
YOU SEE GOD dont have folks being walked on leashes and barking like dogs
KUNDAHLINI . another spirit if that makes it simplier .
And that other spirit was all over that realm
all over its todd bently and his adulterous new age wife who spoke of elphants and etc .
OH IT WAS STRANGE FIRE ALL RIGHT . todd had that part right .
ONLY IT was playing with strange fire that got the sons of aaron DESTROYED .

 

[Marvelloustime]

and not just from paul but from every letter written to us in that bible . including james , both peters , all three johns .
and jude and all four gopsels and the book of acts and etc .
SO speaking of paul , seeing you brought him up
HOW MANY SIT IN CHURCHES WHERE WOMEN lead them . cause before paul wrote that
HE was saying something concering such . THEN HE said what he did in that letter .
HOW many heed THAT . WHY do i see women pastors and women leading and teaching this people .
And if that was but the ONLY THING
LETS OPEN that bible to what john wrote and see WHO actually believes those SPIRIT inspired words .
WHO is a liar but he who denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST
he is not only a liar but ANTI CHRIST . so now i also ask
us WHY DO I SEE SO MANY sitting under ecumeincalism incluisivism and headed right into
its anti christ intefaith peace .
WHICH LIED TO ALL false religoins as IT DID to christendom .

@amigo de christo

 

[Berserk]

All authentic messages in tongues are spontaneous rather than expressions of the speaker's timetable.
What makes praying in tongues convincing is not the automatic speech but the intimacy and powerful sweetness of Jesus' presence during the speech.

 

[JimKnox]

I speak in tongues and have the ability to speak at anytime, because the Holy Spirit is in me all the time. I have found that the people who are against the gifts of the Spirit are actually afraid of intimacy with God and prefer a "religious" spirit that keeps Him at arm's length. I was talking to a pastor's wife about the gifts and she replied adamantly, "I have all of God that I need!" What she was actually saying was she had all of God she wanted.

Well, you are full of self righteousness. You don't know me but you pass judgment on my relationship with Christ.
I was charismatic for 10 years and then God opened Scripture to me.
I am not deceived by charismata anymore.
You prove you are self righteous not by how you judged MY relationship but then you CONFIRM your self righteous attitudes toward others by pridefully passing judgment on another man's WIFE.
And the clincher is that not once did you even attempt to quote Scripture in defense of your ungodliness.
1 Corinthians 14:22 has apparently been cut out of your Bible.
Tongues are for a sign to.....them that believe not.
You are in disobedience.

 

[JimKnox]

All authentic messages in tongues are spontaneous rather than expressions of the speaker's timetable.
What makes praying in tongues convincing is not the automatic speech but the intimacy and powerful sweetness of Jesus' presence during the speech.

You, my friend, are deceived.
1 Cor 14;22

 

[JimKnox]

There are no scriptures that support any tongue not existing today. As I told you, my friend was speaking Syriac and was understood by a language expert, my pastor's friend recognized Hebrew. All tongues whether unknown or recognizable are legitimate languages with structure, never just babbling sounds.

That is not true.

 

[Chaplain James]

Pastor Vlad Savchuk & Corey Russell

 

[Biblica]

That is not true.

It is true. The gifts and calling cannot be recalled. They can remain inactive through apostasy and disbelief, but they are always there. They are to help people in ministry, but since the majority of Christians are basically pew warmers, the gifts are not being appropriated.