Flat Earth Theory

[David Lamb]

First fakery: No one is allowed to go to "Antarctica" (Peace Treaty) Let see if that is true or not?You should research it before posting which you did no do.

Governed by the Antarctic Treaty system, the continent is set aside strictly for peaceful purposes and scientific research.

It is a protected natural reserve with no permanent hotels, native populations, or open infrastructure.

All human activities require formal environmental impact assessments and permits (handled through national authorities or commercial tour operators).

Over 100,000 visitors travel to the Antarctic Peninsula each season, mostly via specialized cruise ships departing from South America (such as Ushuaia, Argentina).

If you book with a licensed member of the International Association of Antarctica Tour Operators, they arrange the necessary legal and environmental permits for you.

Visitors must follow strict "leave no trace" rules, which include not disturbing wildlife, not littering, and disinfecting boots and gear to prevent invasive species

Agreed. One can even go on a flight (if you can afford it!) from various cities in Australia which takes passenger over the Antarctic continent. Antarctica Flights from Australia - Antarctica Flights

 

[Crazy Ivan]

I'm curious how the flat-earthers explain this ice wall back when the earth was first formed and the entire earth had a tropical climate, covered in a misty dome (the vapor canopy), and then the entire world flooded. Was the ice wall a thing back then too?

Because most fundamentalist Christians (these guys fit that category) believe that the originally created earth was in fact uniformly tropical in climate, which is why the people lived so long.

So when did the ice wall arrive?

 

[David in NJ]

Well please tell me, as I have asked you, where are the "clear words from GOD" that say that the earth does not move? Not the verses that say that the earth shall not be moved, but references in the Bible to tell us that the earth is motionless.

Here is something for you to consider:
a.) the pharisees used the your approach when questioning the LORD Jesus Christ
b.) the temple controllers(religion) used your approach when question Stephen

And since they did not like Stephen's Holy Spirit filled rebuke = they stoned him to death

Be careful what you wish for!

 

[CrowCross]

Genesis, WATER, Physics/Law prove beyond any shadow of doubt that a globe spinning earth is the lie, laid as a foundation, for even MORE lies and deception that is now being flooded upon the world = 2 Thess ch2

#1 - God is not mocked.
#2 - Pride goes before the fall.
#3 - GENESIS = Rejecting Truth/God's Word = always opens oneself to being deceived

Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh, the desires of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not from the Father but from the world.
The world is passing away, along with its desires; but whoever does the will of God remains forever.

Thus why the very 1st Commandment is to love the Lord God with all of our heart, mind, soul & strength

As always...you didn't reply to what I wrote.

 

[CrowCross]

Boy what a colossal wuss you are, doctrox. You tell me God's word has a map of the earth. I ask to see it. You put me on ignore.

I'm in great company.

When you blow their so-called flat earth concepts out of the water....you get ignored.

 

[CrowCross]

Well please tell me, as I have asked you, where are the "clear words from GOD" that say that the earth does not move? Not the verses that say that the earth shall not be moved, but references in the Bible to tell us that the earth is motionless.

I've asked the same question with no response.

 

[David in NJ]

I'm in great company.

When you blow their so-called flat earth concepts out of the water....you get ignored.

@David Lamb @Dryhn @Crazy Ivan @Peter1 and all

IF you treasure and apply God's words to your heart, HE will increase your understanding

1My son, if you receive my words,
And treasure my commands within you,
2So that you incline your ear to wisdom,
And apply your heart to understanding;
3Yes, if you cry out for discernment,
And lift up your voice for understanding,
4If you seek her as silver,
And search for her as for hidden treasures;
5Then you will understand the fear of the Lord,
And find the knowledge of God.
6For the Lord gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding;
7He stores up sound wisdom for the upright;
He is a shield to those who walk uprightly;
8He guards the paths of justice,
And preserves the way of His saints.
9Then you will understand righteousness and justice,
Equity and every good path.
10When wisdom enters your heart,
And knowledge is pleasant to your soul,
11Discretion will preserve you;
Understanding will keep you,
12To deliver you from the way of evil,
From the man who speaks perverse things,
13From those who leave the paths of uprightness
To walk in the ways of darkness;
14Who rejoice in doing evil,
And delight in the perversity of the wicked;
15Whose ways are crooked,
And who are devious in their paths;

 

[Crazy Ivan]

@David Lamb @Dryhn @Crazy Ivan @Peter1 and all

IF you treasure and apply God's words to your heart, HE will increase your understanding

1My son, if you receive my words,
And treasure my commands within you,
2So that you incline your ear to wisdom,
And apply your heart to understanding;
3Yes, if you cry out for discernment,
And lift up your voice for understanding,
4If you seek her as silver,
And search for her as for hidden treasures;
5Then you will understand the fear of the Lord,
And find the knowledge of God.
6For the Lord gives wisdom;
From His mouth come knowledge and understanding;
7He stores up sound wisdom for the upright;
He is a shield to those who walk uprightly;
8He guards the paths of justice,
And preserves the way of His saints.
9Then you will understand righteousness and justice,
Equity and every good path.
10When wisdom enters your heart,
And knowledge is pleasant to your soul,
11Discretion will preserve you;
Understanding will keep you,
12To deliver you from the way of evil,
From the man who speaks perverse things,
13From those who leave the paths of uprightness
To walk in the ways of darkness;
14Who rejoice in doing evil,
And delight in the perversity of the wicked;
15Whose ways are crooked,
And who are devious in their paths;

Funny, I came to know Jesus as my Lord and Savior in college, God delivered me from alcohol, I've been serving in ministry for 35 years, devoted my life to Jesus and the Great Commission, have spent countless hours treasuring God's Word, both for personal growth and also for deep study and teaching, and never - not once - has God shown me that the earth is flat.

But I guess I just don't have this special pipeline to the truth that you have.

 

[CrowCross]

Funny, I came to know Jesus as my Lord and Savior in college, God delivered me from alcohol, I've been serving in ministry for 35 years, devoted my life to Jesus and the Great Commission, have spent countless hours treasuring God's Word, both for personal growth and also for deep study and teaching, and never - not once - has God shown me that the earth is flat.

But I guess I just don't have this special pipeline to the truth that you have.

"not once - has God shown me that the earth is flat."

Like you God has showed me the earth is a sphere...in multiple ways.

 

[David Lamb]

Here is something for you to consider:
a.) the pharisees used the your approach when questioning the LORD Jesus Christ
b.) the temple controllers(religion) used your approach when question Stephen

And since they did not like Stephen's Holy Spirit filled rebuke = they stoned him to death

Be careful what you wish for!

Sorry, but I fail to see what connection there is between me asking you for Scripture references to back up what you say, and the Pharisees questioning Jesus. They were trying to trap or trick Jesus. I am not doing that to you.

 

[RandyDawson]

So when did the ice wall arrive?

Must have been during the Ice Age eh?

Funny, I came to know Jesus as my Lord and Savior in college, God delivered me from alcohol, I've been serving in ministry for 35 years, devoted my life to Jesus and the Great Commission, have spent countless hours treasuring God's Word, both for personal growth and also for deep study and teaching, and never - not once - has God shown me that the earth is flat.

But I guess I just don't have this special pipeline to the truth that you have.

Flat earth theory is a gnostic teaching

Apparently "the lord" only reveals "this truth" to a select few.

Sorry, but I fail to see what connection there is between me asking you for Scripture references to back up what you say, and the Pharisees questioning Jesus. They were trying to trap or trick Jesus. I am not doing that to you.

No, the flat earthers are trying to trick you in to agreeing with them.

They are trying to recruit you. Before long they'll probably have guys riding bicycles going door to door speading the happy news that the earth is allegedly flat

 

[doctrox]

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One can even go on a flight (if you can afford it!) from various cities in Australia which takes passenger over the Antarctic continent.

There is no "Antarctic continent" as presented to us, but an outer edge, the entire circumference of which encircles planar earth. Flights approach the edge but are never allowed to venture any further. You are allowed to see a staged boundary near an edge - nothing more, nothing further outward. Several have attempted to venture further; they were militarily forced to retreat at gunpoint.

The factual evidences are overwhelming = which is why they scrubbed the internet and flood it with mockers of God

Well please tell me, as I have asked you, where are the "clear words from GOD" that say that the earth does not move? Not the verses that say that the earth shall not be moved, but references in the Bible to tell us that the earth is motionless

The Holy Bible is clear that the earth is fixed and does not move.

MOVEMENT / MOTION

Here is the definition of move (H4131):


- Blue Letter Bible

The Hebrew môṭ as in the English mot-ion.

MOVEMENT / MOTION

Here are several verses where the Hebrew word for move (môṭ H4131) appears:

Deu 32:35
To me belongeth vengeance, and recompence; their foot shall slide H4131 in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.

Job 41:23
The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved. H4131

Psa 16:8
I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. H4131

Psa 38:16
For I said, Hear me, lest otherwise they should rejoice over me: when my foot slippeth, H4131 they magnify themselves against me.

Psa 46:2
Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried H4131 into the midst of the sea;

Psa 9:1
The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it H4131 cannot be moved. H4131

Psa 96:10
Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall H4131 not be moved: H4131 he shall judge the people righteously.

Psa 104:5
Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed H4131 for ever.

Psa 125:1
[[A Song of degrees.]] They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, H4131 but abideth for ever.

Psa 140:10
Let burning coals fall H4131 upon them: let them be cast into the fire; into deep pits, that they rise not up again.

Pro 10:30
The righteous shall never be removed: H4131 but the wicked shall not inhabit the earth.

Pro 25:26
A righteous man falling down H4131 before the wicked is as a troubled fountain, and a corrupt spring.

Isa 40:20
He that is so impoverished that he hath no oblation chooseth a tree that will not rot; he seeketh unto him a cunning workman to prepare a graven image, that shall not be moved. H4131

Isa 41:7
So the carpenter encouraged the goldsmith, and he that smootheth with the hammer him that smote the anvil, saying, It is ready for the sodering: and he fastened it with nails, that [the graven image] should not be moved. H4131

Looks like lots of movement to me. ....and so,

1 Chr 16:30
Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved. H4131

Conversely, NASA spews RUNAWAY LIES with its pin-BALL Earth-spinning, twisting, corkscrewing cartoons. NASA states that our universe is growing, and that expansion rate is accelerating:


- NASA.gov

God states that the universe is complete, it is NOT growing and ever expanding:

Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. (Gen. 2:1)

What say ye?

NASA's Top 40 Fails, Fumbles & Freemasonic Fraternal Family
nāšā' (H5377) = to deceive - Blue Letter Bible
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[CrowCross]

The Holy Bible is clear that the earth is fixed and does not move.

I once again invite you to read this post.

 

[Dryhn]

Nobody has one. Because there's no such thing as an accurate flat earth map. But since cartography has been around forever, and since we've explored every continent, IF the world is flat, SURELY there HAS to be at least a semi-accurate flat earth map out there SOMEWHERE.

And if they're going to say that the flat earth map that I presented was a distortion of the real earth, how could they possibly know that unless they knew what the real map looked like?

It's hilarious that there exist adults that actually believe this stuff.

It's hilarious that there exist adults that actually believe this stuff.

I've listened to some of those fruitcakes on youtube eg this clown :)

 

[Dryhn]

I once again invite you to read this post.

He won't, he's too busy talking to his flat earth brother :)

 

[David Lamb]

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There is no "Antarctic continent" as presented to us, but an outer edge, the entire circumference of which encircles planar earth. Flights approach the edge but are never allowed to venture any further. You are allowed to see a staged boundary near an edge - nothing more, nothing further outward. Several have attempted to venture further; they were militarily forced to retreat at gunpoint.

Well, the website I linked to says:

"30 Years of Antarctica Flights​

We have been exploring Antarctica by air since 1994 - that's over 150 flights and 30 years pioneering a land that remains almost entirely undiscovered. Aboard a cruise ship you would only touch the edge of the coast. Aboard our privately chartered plane you will soar over a continent that escapes the boundaries of perception." (my emphasis)

It would only take one passenger on such a flight to complain to the powers that regulate advertising to say, "They promised to fly me over the continent, but only took me to the edge" for the company running the flights to face huge consequences, if what you say were true.

 

[Crazy Ivan]

Well, the website I linked to says:

"30 Years of Antarctica Flights​

We have been exploring Antarctica by air since 1994 - that's over 150 flights and 30 years pioneering a land that remains almost entirely undiscovered. Aboard a cruise ship you would only touch the edge of the coast. Aboard our privately chartered plane you will soar over a continent that escapes the boundaries of perception." (my emphasis)

It would only take one passenger on such a flight to complain to the powers that regulate advertising to say, "They promised to fly me over the continent, but only took me to the edge" for the company running the flights to face huge consequences, if what you say were true.

The passengers are all in on the conspiracy as well, don't you know?

 

[David in NJ]

Sorry, but I fail to see what connection there is between me asking you for Scripture references to back up what you say, and the Pharisees questioning Jesus. They were trying to trap or trick Jesus. I am not doing that to you.

Read the Gospel of John and pray as you go thru it = slowly

 

[David Lamb]

Read the Gospel of John and pray as you go thru it = slowly

I have done, several times. It doesn't answer what I asked you, about how requesting that you give biblical references for the claims you make in your posts is somehow akin to the Pharisees trying to trap Jesus by their questions. I am not trying to trap you; I'm just asking for biblical support for the claims you make.

 

[David in NJ]

Funny, I came to know Jesus as my Lord and Savior in college, God delivered me from alcohol, I've been serving in ministry for 35 years, devoted my life to Jesus and the Great Commission, have spent countless hours treasuring God's Word, both for personal growth and also for deep study and teaching, and never - not once - has God shown me that the earth is flat.

But I guess I just don't have this special pipeline to the truth that you have.

Halleluyah and PRAISE GOD that CHRIST has SAVED both yourself and i and @TLHKAJ @doctrox @David Lamb and others on here!!!

Likewise, i have been SAVED by the BLOOD of CHRIST/Gospel and in ministry for 40 years now and continuing.

Always growing in the knowledge of CHRIST as HE enables me by the HOLY SPIRIT thru His WORD.

Some things that i believed when i was first saved has since been adjusted/corrected by the HOLY SPIRIT as i continually submit to:
Matthew 4:4

Question for you and @David Lamb:

What things did you believe were true throughout your walk with CHRIST that HE adjusted/corrected for you in the Holy Scriptures?