the RCC ratlines after WWII

[aspen]

I would not believe half of what you read on this link. It a sheer distortion of what the original aim and purpose of the Nazi socialist party. In fact the truth of it you won't find on the internet, or it will be very hard to find....is a purposely hidden subject..as the victor always says, move along now, there's nothing to see here...we have told you all you need to know...it is the truth

APAK

Ah ok....

Guess I will have to stick with Rollo and DP......
HAHA

 

[Phoneman777]

I would not believe half of what you read on this link. It a sheer distortion of what the original aim and purpose of the Nazi socialist party. In fact the truth of it you won't find on the internet, or it will be very hard to find....is a purposely hidden subject..as the victor always says, move along now, there's nothing to see here...we have told you all you need to know...it is the truth

APAK

That old saying that we're all familiar with: "Don't believe ANYTHING you hear and only HALF of what you read" can be safely modified to include "...and don't believe ANYTHING YOU HEAR OR READ EMINATING FROM THE RCC" because some of the greatest revisionist historians that ever lived were papists. One of their greatest nefarious achievements had to do with distorting the fact that Rome's version of Christianity was limited to Rome and Alexandria, while everywhere else practiced what the RCC deems "heretical" Christianity. Names of non-Catholic Christians like the Bogemills, Hugenots, Waldneses, Lollards, Albegensis, etc. were assigned to various regions in order to give the impression that only "pockets of resistance" existed, while ROME'S VERY OWN ARCHIVES contain works where papists lamented the fact that "heretical Christianity" was being practiced everywhere and spread abroad like a "plague". Socrates Scholasticus even wrote in the 5th century that everywhere Christians observed the seventh day of the week as their sabbath, while Sunday was observed as the rest day only in Rome and Alexandria "on account of some ancient tradition" which tradition any red-blooded Protestant today knows full well is the ancient tradition of Sun worship on the venerable day of the Sun.

 

[Helen]

Oh what fun...ANOTHER thread about the Catholics. That makes such a big change of topic.

 

[APAK]

Ah ok....

Guess I will have to stick with Rollo and DP......
HAHA

Yeah,,I guess I should not get myself started on this topic...I should open a thread on the subject i.e. The birth of Nazism - National Socialist Party...what do you think?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Yeah,,I guess I should not get myself started on this topic...I should open a thread on the subject i.e. The birth of Nazism - National Socialist Party...what do you think?

Yes I think it a good point.
Todays world is in fact following in the same way that a lot of National Socialist German Workers Party peddled, but most people would not comprehend a Nazi if they fell over one.
At school in the 60's 70's we were told just propaganda mainly in Australia and on the subject of Hitler well this was clamed that he was a very bad man ? well what an education ? once you say crap like that you may as well close the book because it's not an education but only indoctrination, it's like saying that Jesus was a good man, yes ok close the book because that's were you education ends.
Jesus was not a good man, he was the Son of God and we can go on from there for an education, Bible points out that a dude called Jesus good teacher and Jesus said why do you call me good ?
Hitler or who ever must be a open subject to be able to get an education on such, Hitler was a good man and did a lot of good, he was man of the year as well, the most loved leader Germany ever had and was once looked up to by all leaders of the world openly, the most popular man in the world in fact and the greatest turn around of a Nation that was heading down the drain to oblivion, his party turned it around to be the greatest most advances Nation in the world by far, this is a fact and gave a middle class hope and the low.

But their was a major problem in depth within all this and that's were the point of getting an education on such is vital to understanding it all.

Fact is that Satan comes across also a good man, he will give you what you want people truly love him admire etc, but one must comprehend what it is that you are in fact truly dealing with and if you don't have a handle on it your a cooked duck not to mention that their will be Hell to pay for your foolishness.

I will point it out now that this generation is the most pathetic brainwashed depraved virtue less people ever to exist in world history, from the Top down Political people are grubs beyond belief openly supporting Satan in all they do.

If one can come to understand Nazi Germany you may have the ability to understand just where the path our world is heading down now.

Look at all the idiots worshiping Political Correctness, they don't even understand what it is they are idolising, Hitler played that PC card and gave mad men like him total power over all, freedom of speech was destroyed and all who did not follow became an enemy of the State and what do we see in Australia now little Hitler's everywhere strutting around like full on possessed morons dictating their filth over everyone and work to destroy any who do not conform kick you out of your job for saying one word out of place and your gone, not to mention that the majority of people are oblivious to all this, just as the majority of Germans were in Hitler's day, fact is that if you spoke out you were as good as dead, German or not.

Political Correctness is the key to all the depravity in Nazi Germany and all the Communist madness, they all work against Jesus Christ and that fact sticks out like dogs balls and here it is nowadays bold as brass being idolised but just clothed in a Fabian Socialist way for this age, but it's the same old monster of old.

 

[epostle1]

"...It is estimated that at least 3,000 other Polish priests were sent to other concentration camps, including Auschwitz, while priests from across Europe were condemned to death and labor camps: 300 priests died at Sachsenhausen, 780 at Mauthausen, and 5,000 at Buchenwald. These numbers do not include the priests who were murdered en route to the camps or who died from diseases and exhaustion in the inhuman cattle cars used to transport victims. Several thousand nuns were also sent to camps or killed on the way.

The list of victims is a very long one, and the suffering on a daily basis by the priests is unimaginable. For many, the ordeal lasted for years. Adam Kozlowiecki, a Polish priest, was arrested by the Gestapo in November 1939 and was sent to Auschwitz in 1940; transferred to Dachau in December 1940, he spent the next five years there until he was freed by the U.S. army on April 29, 1945. Kozlowiecki was made a cardinal in 1998. A few of the other notable priests at Dachau were Bl. Michal Kozal, Bl. Stefan Grelewski, Bl. Stefan Frelichowski, Bl. Karl Leisner, and Bl. Titus Brandsma.
Catholic Martyrs of the Holocaust | Catholic Answers
My question to "Vatican ratlines" is, how can that many dead priests process 5000 South American migrants??? Help from the Red Cross??? Where are the articles on the Red Cross ratlines???

DPMartin, can you say A-G-E-N-D-A??

 

[APAK]

@epostle1 ..on your last post I tend to agree with all you have written. On the subject of WWII, Poland in particular, and Nazism I have a lot to say. On the Catholic plight I know a little although maybe not as much as you. A few of my Polish ancestors were escorted to the camps and died there. Many more Poles, Hungarians and gypsies died in the camps than the Jews...that can be fact checked and it has been done..

APAK

 

[APAK]

Yes I think it a good point.
Todays world is in fact following in the same way that a lot of National Socialist German Workers Party peddled, but most people would not comprehend a Nazi if they fell over one.
At school in the 60's 70's we were told just propaganda mainly in Australia and on the subject of Hitler well this was clamed that he was a very bad man ? well what an education ? once you say crap like that you may as well close the book because it's not an education but only indoctrination, it's like saying that Jesus was a good man, yes ok close the book because that's were you education ends.
Jesus was not a good man, he was the Son of God and we can go on from there for an education, Bible points out that a dude called Jesus good teacher and Jesus said why do you call me good ?
Hitler or who ever must be a open subject to be able to get an education on such, Hitler was a good man and did a lot of good, he was man of the year as well, the most loved leader Germany ever had and was once looked up to by all leaders of the world openly, the most popular man in the world in fact and the greatest turn around of a Nation that was heading down the drain to oblivion, his party turned it around to be the greatest most advances Nation in the world by far, this is a fact and gave a middle class hope and the low.

But their was a major problem in depth within all this and that's were the point of getting an education on such is vital to understanding it all.

Fact is that Satan comes across also a good man, he will give you what you want people truly love him admire etc, but one must comprehend what it is that you are in fact truly dealing with and if you don't have a handle on it your a cooked duck not to mention that their will be Hell to pay for your foolishness.

I will point it out now that this generation is the most pathetic brainwashed depraved virtue less people ever to exist in world history, from the Top down Political people are grubs beyond belief openly supporting Satan in all they do.

If one can come to understand Nazi Germany you may have the ability to understand just where the path our world is heading down now.

Look at all the idiots worshiping Political Correctness, they don't even understand what it is they are idolising, Hitler played that PC card and gave mad men like him total power over all, freedom of speech was destroyed and all who did not follow became an enemy of the State and what do we see in Australia now little Hitler's everywhere strutting around like full on possessed morons dictating their filth over everyone and work to destroy any who do not conform kick you out of your job for saying one word out of place and your gone, not to mention that the majority of people are oblivious to all this, just as the majority of Germans were in Hitler's day, fact is that if you spoke out you were as good as dead, German or not.

Political Correctness is the key to all the depravity in Nazi Germany and all the Communist madness, they all work against Jesus Christ and that fact sticks out like dogs balls and here it is nowadays bold as brass being idolised but just clothed in a Fabian Socialist way for this age, but it's the same old monster of old.

Reggie Belafonte:

Here’s a ‘quick’ primer in a broad view….and cuts to the chase….It does not include religious factors or influences – it clearly spells out why the word ‘Nazi’ became a dirty name and by whom…..

Nazism was a political party of Germany born to rid themselves of the Jewish threat that caused them devastation in WW I. The clash between the indigenous Germans and the Jews occurred many decades before this time.

Germany did not start WW I, the war was brought upon them by Jewish Zionist interests. America was coerced into the war in its last year, because of American Jewish interests. Germany was winning the war until America intervened. So, Nazism began in 1919 to make Germany great again; using a form of both right and left wing politics .

These Jewish interests wanted to squash Germany. When the Germany depression hit, instigated by Jewish bankers, the Nazi party went into high gear.

It was swamped with communist saboteurs and agitators, who were mostly Jews. These Jews were also running German banks, retail merchandise, schools, transportation, media and medical facilities according to their purposes and not in the interested of the country they had adopted. They never really assimilated into Germany even though they live there for nearly 1000 years. Once the Russian people were overthrown by Jewish extremists and terrorists, both Poland and Germany and those close by were ‘on edge.’ Would they be the next to ‘turn red.’ Therefore, the Nazi party was born, to combat and neutralize outside and then inside threats. They never had a chance, Jewish fiat money making machines (central banks) was the life blood then and today for most nations, especially for Russian, America and Britain.

A few years before WW II, America and Britain loved the German people and their products. Suddenly they were calling them pigs and other animals through well placed Jewish propaganda programs from Hollywood the media, newspapers and radio, and with the enticement and the wielding of the almighty dollar.

These wealthy Jews still run these currency machines, all over the world as a tool of blackmail to those that oppose their agenda. They are succeeding in their aim to make the Middle East their own backyard…Look at Syria, the West bow down and are servants to these hateful and fanatical people.

In the fall of 2010 a clandestine mission began to overthrow the government of Syria. We, along with other Western soldiers, and Jordanians and Israelis attacked Syria from Jordan with the aim to cause an artificial civil war. Then in the Spring of 2011 we hear of the ‘so-called staged Uprising’……we are still there 8 years later to do the Zionist Jew bidding. …I’ll stop here

APAK

 

[DPMartin]

I WAS going to respond to this moronic anti-Catholic Drivel - but epostle1 did such a masterful job as destroying your nonsense - so I'll just sit back and watch you squirm . . .

its all historical facts why do you have a problem with them being known or discussed?

 

[BreadOfLife]

its all historical facts why do you have a problem with them being known or discussed?

Ummmm, then why haven't you responded to epostle - point-by-point??

You see - that is a telltale sign that it's all manure . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

When Rome falls in the book of Revelation, the Vatican falls with her.
The headless horseman, no leader, chaos in the romanist world.

Smarter people than YOU have been predicting the Catholic Church's demise for centuries . . .

 

[DPMartin]

Ummmm, then why haven't you responded to epostle - point-by-point??

You see - that is a telltale sign that it's all manure . . .

again I posted historical fact mit info ref.'s, how you and your pal's want to take that info or not, is up to you, not me. I could care less what you or your friends think of the facts. the documented history speaks for itself.

if you notice you and your friends were drawn to what you say is manure, like flys to horse dump, so what does that say about you and you friends? what it says to others is, you don't want to talk about the Lord at all do you, but to bring your vomit to bare on anyone listing for any excuse under the sun, you and you're pals are the first to show up aren't you. because the Lord isn't the reason you and your friends are here, is it?

 

[amadeus]

In the fall of 2010 a clandestine mission began to overthrow the government of Syria. We, along with other Western soldiers, and Jordanians and Israelis attacked Syria from Jordan with the aim to cause an artificial civil war. Then in the Spring of 2011 we hear of the ‘so-called staged Uprising’……we are still there 8 years later to do the Zionist Jew bidding. …I’ll stop here

APAK

My memory is not good these days, but a couple of years ago on another Christian forum, a Syrian Christian confirmed this artificial "civil war" instigated in his country by outsiders... Probably I saved his words on my computer somewhere, but to find it...?

Thanks for the information...

 

[APAK]

My memory is not good these days, but a couple of years ago on another Christian forum, a Syrian Christian confirmed this artificial "civil war" instigated in his country by outsiders... Probably I saved his words on my computer somewhere, but to find it...?

Thanks for the information...

Find your stuff if you can and display it here....

Thanks for the info

Good on ya Amadeus!

APAK

 

[BreadOfLife]

again I posted historical fact mit info ref.'s, how you and your pal's want to take that info or not, is up to you, not me. I could care less what you or your friends think of the facts. the documented history speaks for itself.

Then why not address all of the counterpoints made by epostle??
These little anti-Catholic hit-and-run posts are cowardly.

if you notice you and your friends were drawn to what you say is manure, like flys to horse dump, so what does that say about you and you friends? what it says to others is, you don't want to talk about the Lord at all do you, but to bring your vomit to bare on anyone listing for any excuse under the sun, you and you're pals are the first to show up aren't you. because the Lord isn't the reason you and your friends are here, is it?

I don't know HOW many time I have to tell you anti-Catholics on this forum that this is the ONLY reason I'm here - to expose your "horse dump" for what it is.
I'm bad news for people like you who like to spread lies , half-truths and fairy tales . . .

 

[amadeus]

@APAK
I will post only this one since it is not mine and the person is not a member and does still live elsewhere:

Saddam and his top officers had no choice but to sell Iraq (and its people) to the world's Elite (the world's decision makers or the world's owners, if you like, who are not naïve and have no time to show up in public). But first, he had to play the anti-USA on TV before the world... with a rifle in hand... like Bin Laden later used doing So it was natural, to me in the least, seeing him saving the Americans he had in Iraq, instead of taking them hostages as any real enemy does, a couple of days before the USA invasion (asking for his own head). By the way, all videos about Saddam's trials and execution are as true as a horror movie made at Hollywood is

I guess you know that most people in Palestine were Christians. After WW2 (that is when USA became the greatest power and the destroyed Europe had to be submitted to it) these Christians were replaced gradually by non-Arab Jews (imported from all over the world) under the pretext that it is the will of God and Palestine is the Land that promised by God to Jews ONLY. Now the Christians living in Palestine (or Israel, if you like) form the smallest minority.
Also when Bush invaded Iraq, the Iraqi people had to live daily the 9/11 terror since then. The Christian Iraqis were also the targets of the CIA Qaeda. The goal was to also replace them with non-Arab Muslims (known later as of ISIS).
Then, after building the core of the International Terrorist Islamic Army in Iraq (its various troops are known now as of ISIS or alike), Obama and the Syrian men on power were instructed to start the destruction of Syria by presenting first the Syrian president as an evil superman who has a magical power to rule millions of people as the dictators do in Hollywood movies I recall well that the first targets of the terrorists in Aleppo were the Christian neighbourhoods (though many Muslim families live in too). So, most Christians in these neighbourhoods had to flee gradually, during the daily terrorist attacks since year 2012, to Lebanon, Armenia, Europe or Canada.

The plan was to create another American military base. In the first one, the Jewish people was chosen. In the second one, Iran, the Shia Muslims were chosen. In the third one (which is not created completely yet), the Sunni Muslims were chosen. In these three bases which are made fanatic and radical, Christians have no real place in them. The irony is that all these three bases are created, supported and funded (under or over the table) by the full knowledge of the Evangelists on power in USA, also the Orthodox Christians in Russia.

So I am curious personally to see if the Holy Spirit will be also defeated in Jesus Land, Syria (from which Jesus teachings were first preached), by the today's world's Elite or not (at least while I am alive). If it will happen, Obama can be proud for being the first person in the world who proved that Jesus was just another famous deceiver when he said:

"That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it".

Indeed, Obama opened the gates of hell since March 2011 when he started playing the role of Judas Iscariot by opening the 9/11 terror show in Syria (as it was done to Iraq, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and Yemen for a few) under the pretext to save Syrians from a cruel dictator.

Since it was posted on another public forum I have no qualms about posting a copy of it here. If you want more send me a PM.

 

[epostle1]

from website:

Senior German Nazi criminals escaped prosecution after World War II by the use of different “ratlines “ spread over Europe, which were operated via a network of Vatican contacts. The Catholic Church believed this effort would contribute to the “re-Christianization” of Europe and feared the threat to Europe of paganism and communism. In the pursuit of its political and spiritual interests, it was quick to forgive Nazi war criminals. Welcoming former sinners back to the bosom of the Church seemed a higher calling than turning them over to war crimes investigators. According to many church officials who were questioned about this practice: “You don’t understand us, but we did the right thing,”

It is estimated that 5,000 Nazi leaders managed to escape thanks to this network. They could not have accomplished this without the complicity of the Red Cross as well. Because the Red Cross didn’t do checks – no checks at all, basically, Nazi criminals and their collaborators from all over Europe were able to fraudulently obtain the documents required to make their way to South America.

Vatican Ratlines
And you'd have to be lame to not see that the only way a guy like Mussolini could come into power in Italy is with the Vatican's support and public blessing.

Senior German Nazi criminals? No names given??? They must be known by now.
To say all 5000 were guilty is like saying all Protestants are anti-Catholic bigots (like the author of Vatican ratlines, who writes grossly biased web sites and bend over backwards just to discredit the Church). What's going on here is a total inability to grasp what war torn Germany was like. How many war criminals made it to South America is not known, but that doesn't matter to anti-Catholic bigots, they think they have a big story to tell. They don't.

THE FLAWS IN CNN’S EPISODE ON PIUS XII
University of Mississippi professor Ronald Rychlak, one of the world’s foremost scholars of the Catholic Church’s role during the Holocaust, was included in last night’s episode of the CNN series on the papacy. He serves on the board of advisors of the Catholic League. He prepared the following assessment of the April 8th edition for the Catholic League. Here are his remarks:
THE FLAWS IN CNN'S EPISODE ON PIUS XII

 

[APAK]

@amadeus: You have some valuable info if you do not realize it. I do know of some of it and more.. I pieced a lot together myself when and after I had a very hush security clearance while working with the government. And from some conspiracy sites that really had some REAL data....

This is the way I think: few know, some think they know, most do not know what to know! The latter ones are the necessary, gullible, blind and mindless foot-soldiers of evil. They are the same ones that crucified Christ, fortunately for us. God is always in control and evil is a necessary tool of God today.

I believe that true believers as they seek the truth of God, they are also discerning fake and truth in the secular world. We are the true critical thinkers of God and the truth. We are the watchers on the tower. Praise be to God and Jesus glorified, our path to truth and peace.

Bless you,

APAK

 

[epostle1]

DPMartin, Revisionism is not documented history, it's propaganda. And you haven't a clue what forgiveness means. It's not a candy machine. It means true repentance and taking responsibility for ones actions. It does not mean getting away with murder.
How can it be a Vatican rat line when Protestants like you have killed off all the priests? Who is doing the work???

 

[amadeus]

@amadeus: You have some valuable info if you do not realize it. I do know of some of it and more.. I pieced a lot together myself when and after I had a very hush security clearance while working with the government. And from some conspiracy sites that really had some REAL data....

This is the way I think: few know, some think they know, most do not know what to know! The latter ones are the necessary, gullible, blind and mindless foot-soldiers of evil. They are the same ones that crucified Christ, fortunately for us. God is always in control and evil is a necessary tool of God today.

I believe that true believers as they seek the truth of God, they are also discerning fake and truth in the secular world. We are the true critical thinkers of God and the truth. We are the watchers on the tower. Praise be to God and Jesus glorified, our path to truth and peace.

Bless you,

APAK

To me as a believer it had not been important. That is, it does not directly affect me in my walk with God... or at least it has not to this point. I recognize that for others it might be different. When I was reading some of it today before making the above post it hit me differently than it did before. This forum has some problems with quoted posts. I notice that not all of the what I included in my post is shown in between the quotes. If you did not get the whole thing I will send it to you without quotation marks via PM...

Give God the glory!