Are you catholic?

[GodsGrace]

Well...that does not make you unique...lol....he pretty much calls everyone liar, while he is making up lies....

So a man delcares he wants to make a confession...

And enters a little booth, with a speaking divider, and who sits on the other side?

A man they call "Father".

And the man say to his "Father"...

Father forgive me for I have sinned?

Blah blah, list of sins.

And the mans "Father", announces the man IS forgiven.

And then what? His Father tells him to go pray to Mary...?

God Bless,
Taken

No more a booth like you may imagine. It's a much bigger space now. There is no divider unless the person specifically wants one; then there is a wooden part that can be closed. Most persons don't like it to be closed.

yes. The person says: Bless me father for I have sinned, it has been .........since my last confession. If you know the priest personally, this part can be skipped.

Besides listening to the sins, the priest also has the authority NOT to forgive them.
For instance, if someone is living with someone out of wedlock and they confess this, the priest cannot state forgiveness because it's an ongoing sin. So then they go to a priest that doesn't know them and it becomes a farce.

At the end the priest gives absolution. " I absolve you in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit".

Many times advice is also given. The priests I know don't give prayers anymore...they tell the person what they could do to become better.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Jesus breathed on the apostles and gave them the authority to forgive sins.
Jesus isn't breathing on anyone anymore. Please don't bring up the placing of the bishops hands on new priests to give them the Holy Spirit.

If you notice, this seems like a really important verse. John, who had been with Jesus from the beginning, explaining how Jesus gave them the authority to forgive sin. Let me ask you this: If it was so important that for confession of sins we had to confess to a man, why didn't John and the other writers make a point of this?
Why does James say to confess our sins to one another?
James 5:6

Why does God need a man, acting in the place of Jesus, to proclaim that a man's sins are forgiven? Can't God do this by Himself?

And EVERY priest received the Holy Spirit at Baptism and again at Confirmation.
The office of each Apostle was successive (Acts 1:20). They themselves taught Apostolic Succession (Acts 1:20, Acts 15:24, 2 Tim. 2:2).

 

[BreadOfLife]

I have no issue with what Jesus did.
But your breath....eh! Flows forth with your corrupt words.

Now there's an intelligent response to a Biblical truth . . .

 

[Taken]

Jesus breathed on the apostles and gave them the authority to forgive sins.
Jesus isn't breathing on anyone anymore. Please don't bring up the placing of the bishops hands on new priests to give them the Holy Spirit.

If you notice, this seems like a really important verse. John, who had been with Jesus from the beginning, explaining how Jesus gave them the authority to forgive sin. Let me ask you this: If it was so important that for confession of sins we had to confess to a man, why didn't John and the other writers make a point of this?
Why does James say to confess our sins to one another?
James 5:6

Why does God need a man, acting in the place of Jesus, to proclaim that a man's sins are forgiven? Can't God do this by Himself?

God doesn't require a man or anyone else to Forgive sins. A man WHO gives his life TO the Lord, is FORGIVEN all of his sins, BY the Lord and Kept from committing any more sins, BY the Lord, THUS, there is no need for a man to "repeatedly" announce the mans sins are forgiven....

Teaching a man that IF he come to the Lord, calls on His Name in heartfelt belief, It is the Lord who forgives his sins.

A SIN for OT men, Hebrews & Jews, was a violation of their LAWS.

WHELP....JESUS REDEEMED MEN from being subject to the Laws of VIOLATION.

With all of a man sins Forgiven...
With KILLING a mans body of SIN..
Without a Consequence FOR SIN....

What are all these sins, BOL claims is being committed by men IN Christ?
And what are the consequences?

LOL. Maybe Mary his Queen Mother has the answer...

 

[Taken]

The Lord Breathing ON a man and saying to receive the Holy Spirit, is the Lord telling the man what the Lord is sending them to do, they Power of God is with them. IN THEM?
No WITH THEM.

A man receiving the Seed of God, is a man receiving the birth of his own spirit, VIA, the eternal INDWELLING Spirit of God and His Power.

And precisely WHY a man WITH the Spirit of God WITHIN him CAN NOT SIN.

God does not DWELL IN SIN.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[BreadOfLife]

The Lord Breathing ON a man and saying to receive the Holy Spirit, is the Lord telling the man what the Lord is sending them to do, they Power of God is with them. IN THEM?
No WITH THEM.
A man receiving the Seed of God, is a man receiving the birth of his own spirit, VIA, the eternal INDWELLING Spirit of God and His Power.
And precisely WHY a man WITH the Spirit of God WITHIN him CAN NOT SIN.
God does not DWELL IN SIN.

2 Cor. 2:10
“Whomever you forgive anything, so do I. For indeed what I HAVE FORGIVEN, if I HAVE FORGIVEN anything, has been for you in the presence of Christ.”

In the Greek, the word “presence” in this phrase is Prosopone, which means Person. In the PERSON of Christ is a more correct translation. Paul was indicating that they were forgiving sins in the PERSON of Christ, which is translated into Latin as In Persona Christi.

Like I said - if you have a problem with that, take it up with Jesus - NOT His Church . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Your babbling on and on is moot.
Vain repetitious prayer was already established as the point.
Repetitious praying to other than God is in vain.

Catholics pray TO Mary....you make her YOUR GOD....
Repeated prayers TO Mary....are in Vain.

Scripture teaches to Pray TO "your" God.
Nothing unbiblical about asking another to pray FOR a person. Hopefully the one asking Knows they will be praying TO God, and not some dead person who can not answer their prayers.

Spoken like a person who is completely ignorant of the English language.

Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary defines “Pray” as follows:
Pray
verb \ˈprā\
Full Definition of pray

transitive verb
1: entreat, implore —often used as a function word in introducing a question, request, or plea<pray be careful>
2: to get or bring by praying

intransitive verb
1: to make a request in a humble manner
2: to address God or a god with adoration, confession, supplication, or thanksgiving

Since when is ASKING somebody to pray FOR you "vain", my Scripturally-bankrupt friend??

Jesus "prayed" to people 135 times in the NT:
(Matt. 5:46, Matt. 5:47, Matt. 6:27, Matt. 6:28, Matt. 7:3, Matt. 7:16, Matt. 8:26, Matt. 9:4, Matt. 9:5, Matt. 9:15, Matt. 9:28, Matt. 11:7, Matt. 11:16, Matt. 12:11, Matt. 12:29, Matt. 12:34, Matt. 12:48, Matt. 14:31, Matt. 15:3, Matt. 15:34, Matt. 16:9, Matt. 16:13, Matt. 16:15, Matt. 16:26, Matt. 17:17, Matt. 17:25, Matt. 18:12, Matt. 19:17, Matt. 20:21, Matt. 20:22, Matt. 20:32, Matt. 21:25, Matt. 21:28, Matt. 21:42, Matt. 22:18, Matt. 22:42, Matt. 23:17-19, Matt. 23:33, Matt. 26:10, Matt. 26:40, Matt. 26:53, Matt. 26:54, Matt. 26:55, Matt. 27:46, Mark 2:8, Mark 4:21, Mark 4:30, Mark 4:40, Mark 5:9, Mark 5:30, Mark 5:39, Mark 7:18, Mark 7:18, Mark 8:12, Mark 8:17-18, Mark 8:19, Mark 8:20, Mark 8:21, Mark 8:23, Mark 9:12, Mark 9:33, Mark 9:50, Mark 10:3, Mark 10:18, Mark 10:51, Mark 12:15, Mark 13:2, Mark 14:37, Mark 14:37, Luke 2:49, Luke 2:49, Luke 5:22, Luke 5:23, Luke 6:46, Luke 8:25, Luke 8:30, Luke 8:45, Luke 10:15, Luke 10:26, Luke 10:36, Luke 11:40, Luke 12:14-15, Luke 12:25, Luke 12:57, Luke 14:31, Luke 14:34, Luke 15:4, Luke 15:8, Luke 16:11, Luke 17:17, Luke 18:7, Luke 18:8, Luke 22:27, Luke 22:46, Luke 23:31, Luke 24:17, Luke 24:19, Luke 24:26, Luke 24:38, Luke 24:41, John 1:38, John 2:4, John 3:10, John 3:12, John 4:7, John 5:6, John 5:44, John 5:47, John 6:5, John 6:61, John 6:62, John 6:67, John 6:70, John 7:19, John7:19, John 7:23, John 8:10, John 8:43, John 8:46, John 8:46, John 10:36, John 11:9, John 11:26, John 11:33, John 13:12, John 14:9, John 18:4,7, John 18:11, John 18:34, John 18:21, John 18:23, John 20:15, John 21:5, John 21:17, John 21:22)

 

[BreadOfLife]

The bible
A small pamphlet that explained the Mass
Stuff from the internet that I liked for: Communion, Confession
A notebook
We did some arts and crafts for Easter and Christmas

I stressed how much Jesus loves them and spent time making Him real...
Like, for instance, what was Nazareth like, geography of Israel, etc.

The church supplied catechism books but they were so washed down that none of the catechists really liked them so the priest agreed not to use them.

He doesn't get any more "real" than in the Eucharist . . .

 

[GodsGrace]

He doesn't get any more "real" than in the Eucharist . . .

Oh yeah.
A lot of kids want to know how come Jesus is all over but He's REALLY in the eucharist or in the Santissimo (can't remember the English word).

Please explain that.

 

[Stranger]

He doesn't get any more "real" than in the Eucharist . . .

Do Romanists get to partake of the wine and blood of Jesus Christ?

Stranger

 

[BreadOfLife]

Do Romanists get to partake of the wine and blood of Jesus Christ?

Stranger

I'll answer that question when you aren't so snarky about it . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Oh yeah.
A lot of kids want to know how come Jesus is all over but He's REALLY in the eucharist or in the Santissimo (can't remember the English word).

Please explain that.

You should know that if you're a Christian.
He is everywhere because he's God.

By the way - that is called a "Monstrance".

 

[Taken]

2 Cor. 2:10
“Whomever you forgive anything, so do I. For indeed what I HAVE FORGIVEN, if I HAVE FORGIVEN anything, has been for you in the presence of Christ.”

In the Greek, the word “presence” in this phrase is Prosopone, which means Person. In the PERSON of Christ is a more correct translation. Paul was indicating that they were forgiving sins in the PERSON of Christ, which is translated into Latin as In Persona Christi.

Like I said - if you have a problem with that, take it up with Jesus - NOT His Church . . .

LOL...Funny.

Not particularly news, men were taught to forgiven men their TRESPASSES.

 

[GodsGrace]

Do Romanists get to partake of the wine and blood of Jesus Christ?

Stranger

I'll answer you.
No. It's not done anymore.
However, both elements are in the host...
The body and the blood.

 

[GodsGrace]

You should know that if you're a Christian.
He is everywhere because he's God.

By the way - that is called a "Monstrance".

That wasn't what I asked you to explain, but no problem.

Thanks for reminding me what the santissimo is called.

 

[GodsGrace]

You should know that if you're a Christian.
He is everywhere because he's God.

By the way - that is called a "Monstrance".

IF I'm a Christian??
You're so nice.

 

[BreadOfLife]

That wasn't what I asked you to explain, but no problem.
Thanks for reminding me what the santissimo is called.

Then what WERE you asking me to explain?

 

[BreadOfLife]

IF I'm a Christian??
You're so nice.

Not you personally.
ANY Christian.who is asked that question should be able to answer it.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I'll answer you.
No. It's not done anymore.
However, both elements are in the host...
The body and the blood.

This is completely false.
BOTH species are offered at each mass. I'm an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion and I serve BOTH.

 

[BreadOfLife]

LOL...Funny.
Not particularly news, men were taught to forgiven men their TRESPASSES.

Not in In Persona Christi.