There is another thread that is so general in its topic regarding the RCC that almost anything would qualify. I am taking one subject from it for this thread. That subject is "sola scriptura".
1. Defining Terms: Sola Scriptura means "All tradition and doctrine to be tested by the Bible to see IF it is in line with scripture or if scripture shows it to be error, or fluff, or true".
2. A question: I notice that while many Christians affirm this principle of "sola scriptura" Catholics will almost always oppose it "right out of the gate". Which is strange since all Christians are "supposed" to be saying "sure we support sola-scriptura testing because our church doctrine is perfectly in line with the Bible".
Here is a post to show the state of the conversation so far.
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One earlier post suggested the wild speculation that the Bible teaching on "sola scriptura" is mere "fairy tale" -- it got this response
Good point.
No wonder the Bible so strongly affirms "sola scriptura"
Acts 17:11 is not unbiblical. And it came wayyy before the reformation.
Mark 7:6-13 is not "unbiblical" and it came wayyy before the reformation
Isaiah 8:20 is not unbiblical and it came wayyy before the reformation
"20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because they have no light."
Do you expect that we would agree with that speculative statement you are making? You have free will of course and can have any preference that you wish. But if you want to frame it as a compelling argument in favor of you POV you need substance in it - by addressing the details in the post.
Acts 17:11 "They searched THE SCRIPTUREs daily to SEE IF those things spoken to them by the APOSTLE Paul - WERE SO"
How is that NOT - "Sola Scriptura"???
Mark 7
6 And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’ 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”
On the contrary --
1. How is that NOT "sola scriptura" testing tradition.
2. How is that NOT calling the Word of God = Commandment of God = Moses said.
3. How is that NOT sola-scriptura hammering the tradition of the accepted magesterium of the nation-church that GOD started at Sinai - in the days of Christ
On the contrary --
1. How is that NOT "sola scriptura" testing tradition
1. Defining Terms: Sola Scriptura means "All tradition and doctrine to be tested by the Bible to see IF it is in line with scripture or if scripture shows it to be error, or fluff, or true".
2. A question: I notice that while many Christians affirm this principle of "sola scriptura" Catholics will almost always oppose it "right out of the gate". Which is strange since all Christians are "supposed" to be saying "sure we support sola-scriptura testing because our church doctrine is perfectly in line with the Bible".
Here is a post to show the state of the conversation so far.
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One earlier post suggested the wild speculation that the Bible teaching on "sola scriptura" is mere "fairy tale" -- it got this response
Why would men have been willing to be martyred for this "fairy tale"? You need to sit down and ask yourself some tough questions. And then turn away from the fantasies created by the Catholic Church.
Good point.
No wonder the Bible so strongly affirms "sola scriptura"
Acts 17:11 is not unbiblical. And it came wayyy before the reformation.
Mark 7:6-13 is not "unbiblical" and it came wayyy before the reformation
Isaiah 8:20 is not unbiblical and it came wayyy before the reformation
"20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because they have no light."
Nothing you have written here supports sola scripture
Do you expect that we would agree with that speculative statement you are making? You have free will of course and can have any preference that you wish. But if you want to frame it as a compelling argument in favor of you POV you need substance in it - by addressing the details in the post.
Acts 17:11 "They searched THE SCRIPTUREs daily to SEE IF those things spoken to them by the APOSTLE Paul - WERE SO"
How is that NOT - "Sola Scriptura"???
Mark 7
6 And He said to them, “Rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
7 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, is to be put to death’; 11 but you say, ‘If a man says to his father or his mother, whatever I have that would help you is Corban (that is to say, given to God),’ 12 you no longer permit him to do anything for his father or his mother; 13 thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition which you have handed down; and you do many things such as that.”
The Bible doesn't say any of that. "Bible alone" theology is a man made tradition, it isn't found anywhere in the Bible.
On the contrary --
1. How is that NOT "sola scriptura" testing tradition.
2. How is that NOT calling the Word of God = Commandment of God = Moses said.
3. How is that NOT sola-scriptura hammering the tradition of the accepted magesterium of the nation-church that GOD started at Sinai - in the days of Christ
Funny - that's NOT what the Bible says. NOWHERE does the Bible teach the fairy tale that is Sola Scriptura.
On the contrary --
1. How is that NOT "sola scriptura" testing tradition