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[Earburner]

Are you still insisting that the righteousness of Christ is sin, or that you are not in Christ and therefore have not His Righteousness and so a sinner??

THINK!! The BLOOD of Christ, shed for me (and you) makes us to be sin-LESS before the Father!!
Read Col. 3:3 again and learn that we are "hid" in Him.
God the Father does not see our sinfulness!!
So then, even though that is true, we all know that none of us are sin-FREE, because of our CORRUPTIBLE flesh!
Therefore, it is very truthful and absolute, that we are SAVED BY Grace, and that not of ourselves (working at keeping the Law).

 

[Earburner]

Sin-Less....is not one WITH...sinfulness.

Your SIN did NOT DISAPPEAR.
Your SIN was Forgiven, and Covered, Hidden.

SIN-LESS,
is to NOT "HAVE" SIN.
Is to BE "WITHOUT" SIN.

A man HAS SIN...that is Forgiven, that is Covered, that Exists, and IS HIDDEN.

In the Father's BOOKS AND RECORDS...
You ARE SLATED/JUSTIFIED....TO BECOME,
GLORIFIED.

The Lord God, DOES NOT HAVE TO WAIT TO SEE, it "come to pass into fruition", To Establish a man IN HIS RECORD BOOKS...

Yet UNTIL the DAY, YOU "ARE" Glorified in YOUR BODY....it has NOT Come into "fruition".

The Records of "JUSTIFICATION" are being Establshed......the Fruition and Manifestation of YOUR GLORIFIED immortal body, HAS NOT yet come to pass.

Do you understand???

Taken

You are so all over the place, that you sound scatter brained. Touching upon renditions of several doctrines and then pasting it all together, with a large bottle of glue, is called a "collage". Keep your thoughts focused, and you will be precise in your writing.

 

[Taken]

You also don't understand the word "hid".
See my previous post, or look it up in the Strongs for the KJV.

LOL...Once again you fail in attempting to define MY UNDERSTANDING.

Nothing is HID from God.
Many things WERE HID from OT men.
Many things HAVE BEEN revealed IN THE NT.

Hid is simply something NOT YET REVEALED..
Or something COVERED to prevent it being SEEN.

Forgiven SIN, IS Covered, BEING OVERPOWERED by Gods LIGHT within a forgiven man.

A mans GLORIFIED, IMMORTAL BODY, reveals the mans SIN, having been ENTIRELY OVER POWERED by Gods LIGHT, that NO SIN can BE SEEN....EVER AGAIN.

Dude, "Your" body has NOT YET been "Transformed" Immortal and GLORIFIED!

Taken

 

[Taken]

You are so all over the place, that you sound scatter brained. Touching upon renditions of several doctrines and then pasting it all together, with a large bottle of glue, is called a "collage". Keep your thoughts focused, and you will be precise in your writing.

I am speaking Thoughts that APPLY to SPIRITUAL THINGS...and you are trying to Comprehend Spiritual Things with YOUR Carnal mind...ofcourse it will be unintelligible to you.

Your BODY has NOT become IMMORTAL or GLORIFIED....NOR shall it be....until it is RAISED UP IN A GLORIFIED BODY.

Currently a man can BE FREED from Committing Sin, and His SIN forgiven, and His SIN Covered.....THAT does NOT MAKE A MAN SIN-LESS.

He who was REVEALED "SIN-LESS", For men to SEE.... is ONE..
He WHO NEVER HAD SIN!
JESUS.

Taken

 

[Earburner]

LOL...Once again you fail in attempting to define MY UNDERSTANDING.

Nothing is HID from God.
Many things WERE HID from OT men.
Many things HAVE BEEN revealed IN THE NT.

Hid is simply something NOT YET REVEALED..
Or something COVERED to prevent it being SEEN.

Forgiven SIN, IS Covered, BEING OVERPOWERED by Gods LIGHT within a forgiven man.

A mans GLORIFIED, IMMORTAL BODY, reveals the mans SIN, having been ENTIRELY OVER POWERED by Gods LIGHT, that NO SIN can BE SEEN....EVER AGAIN.

Dude, "Your" body has NOT YET been "Transformed" Immortal and GLORIFIED!

Taken

 

[Earburner]

You are squirming, in order to dodge the truth of Col. 3:3. You have been given the facts, but you are in denial, for the sake of other interconnected doctrines, that you favor.

 

[Earburner]

I am speaking Thoughts that APPLY to SPIRITUAL THINGS...and you are trying to Comprehend Spiritual Things with YOUR Carnal mind...ofcourse it will be unintelligible to you.

Your BODY has NOT become IMMORTAL or GLORIFIED....NOR shall it be....until it is RAISED UP IN A GLORIFIED BODY.

Currently a man can BE FREED from Committing Sin, and His SIN forgiven, and His SIN Covered.....THAT does NOT MAKE A MAN SIN-LESS.

He who was REVEALED "SIN-LESS", For men to SEE.... is ONE..
He WHO NEVER HAD SIN!
JESUS.

Taken

Lol- if you have been forgiven, then you are not condemned. If you are not condemned, then you are deemed sin-LESS through blood of Christ. Now, if you don't agree with that, then you REMAIN condemned already
John 3:18, Col. 3:3.

 

[Phoneman777]

Are you still insisting that the righteousness of Christ is sin, or that you are not in Christ and therefore have not His Righteousness and so a sinner??

I'm pretty sure that my post plainly says that Antinomianists do not believe the Cross changes the sinner from one who sins to one who is faithfully obedient, but that it just changes God's opinion of the same old sinning that the confused person who claims to love Jesus keeps on committing.

Are you really so mentally challenged that you cannot understand that no wife in the world will tolerate her husbands weekly infidelity no matter how much he says "sorry, dear", but you somehow demand that God will even though the power to stop being unfaithful to Him is ready to help you?

 

[Phoneman777]

Conversely, you have chosen to believe in your form of the will and work of God.
John 6
[29] Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
John 6
[40] And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

The devils believe too, and tremble, but they are going to suffer a terrible, agonizing death in the Lake of Fire as they burn to a crisp. That thought alone should compel the Christian to examine more closely as to what the Biblical concept of "believe" actually means. I'll do it for you:

If your "belief" does not lead you to total surrender of your thoughts, words, and actions to Christ - while trusting in His grace to cover the defects of character that are not yet perfected - that belief is as useless as that of devils.

 

[Earburner]

I'm pretty sure that my post plainly says that Antinomianists do not believe the Cross changes the sinner from one who sins to one who is faithfully obedient, but that it just changes God's opinion of the same old sinning that the confused person who claims to love Jesus keeps on committing.

Are you really so mentally challenged that you cannot understand that no wife in the world will tolerate her husbands weekly infidelity no matter how much he says "sorry, dear", but you somehow demand that God will even though the power to stop being unfaithful to Him is ready to help you?

For ALL who come to Him through faith, He promised that He would not leave us or forsake us!
Do you want change what He promised?
Through disbelief, YOU have!

 

[Phoneman777]

For ALL who come to Him through faith, He promised that He would not leave us or forsake us!
Do you want change what He promised?
Through disbelief, YOU have!

Just what is it you "come" to Jesus for?

A free pass to keep on doing the things which caused His ignominious death in the first place?
(Romans 6:14-16 KJV)

A comforting pat on the back of assurance that He accepts you, though you refuse to turn from sin?
(1 John 2:3-4 KJV)

A promise that His blood will cover sins to which you're a slave because of refusal to accept overcome power?
(Proverbs 28:13 KJV)

To be "once saved, never lost"?
(Matthew 18:23-35 KJV)

The Jesus that we approach with the expectation of being accepted by Him though He knows we have no intention of allowing Him to change us into His spotless image is not the Jesus of the Bible, but a figment of imagination.

 

[mjrhealth]

I'm pretty sure that my post plainly says that Antinomianists do not believe the Cross changes the sinner from one who sins to one who is faithfully obedient, but that it just changes God's opinion of the same old sinning that the confused person who claims to love Jesus keeps on committing.

Are you really so mentally challenged that you cannot understand that no wife in the world will tolerate her husbands weekly infidelity no matter how much he says "sorry, dear", but you somehow demand that God will even though the power to stop being unfaithful to Him is ready to help you?

One thingChrist is just not that complicated, have no idea of what an "Antinomianists" is, as for infidelity, you are supposed to be the bride of Christ, at present you are joined to the"harlot" church, she is a female. Than means you are currently committing a homosexual act, can you imagine how a man would feel if His bride was fornicating with another female, So little understanding. You knwo this one

Rev_2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Wehn you perfect yourself, please inform us and God we really would love to see you do it...

God never changed His opinion of us, HE loves us all the same sinner and believer all alike, He rejoices when men finally realize they cant do it, and than turn to Him like the prodigal son and than just let Him be there loving father, but some seem to think He has favorites, and they all run around trying to prove there worth, The only thing that pleases God is faith, and that is sadly lacking in so called believers which is why so many prefer Prison than freedom in Christ.

 

[Taken]

You are squirming, in order to dodge the truth of Col. 3:3. You have been given the facts, but you are in denial, for the sake of other interconnected doctrines, that you favor.

~ squirming...dodging...in denial of Scriptural truth...interconnected doctrines...

Not True ~


If you want to walk around while still having your visible veil of flesh, implying that veil has been removed and you are sin-less, that is your prerogative.
Me disagreeing with YOU, does not make me in denial of Scripture, as you falsely claim.

Jesus had a VEIL of FLESH, and even His Veil was NOT removed, UNTIL He was RAISED UP INTO THE CLOUDS...IN HIS GLORY!

Jesus is MY EXAMPLE and so ALSO, shall my own Veil of Flesh be removed WHEN my BODY is RAISED UP TO the CLOUDS to MEET the Lord in His Likeness, WITHOUT a HIS Veil, WITHOUT MY Veil...IN the Reflection of HIS GLORY!

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Lol- if you have been forgiven, then you are not condemned. If you are not condemned, then you are deemed sin-LESS through blood of Christ. Now, if you don't agree with that, then you REMAIN condemned already
John 3:18, Col. 3:3.

Deemed "sin-less" ?

You have changed your song and dance.

You CHANGED your CLAIM...
From "ARE" sinless to "DEEMED" sinless.

And NOW are attempting to CLAIM, I rejected....being "DEEMED" sinless...

Which is UTTERLY FALSE!

I plainly said...

Gods RECORDS/BOOKS Account WHO IS JUSTIFIED to BE CLAIMED...<----DEEMED

Gods ACCOUNTING, is one thing.

The mans GLORIFICATION of his BODY, is another thing.

You IGNORED the ORDER of things that MUST BE Manifested and COME TO PASS.

And announced YOURSELF.....Sin-Less.
Which IS NOT....the same "AS DEEMED" Sin-less.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Phoneman777]

One thingChrist is just not that complicated, have no idea of what an "Antinomianists" is, as for infidelity, you are supposed to be the bride of Christ, at present you are joined to the"harlot" church, she is a female. Than means you are currently committing a homosexual act, can you imagine how a man would feel if His bride was fornicating with another female, So little understanding. You knwo this one

Rev_2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

Wehn you perfect yourself, please inform us and God we really would love to see you do it...

God never changed His opinion of us, HE loves us all the same sinner and believer all alike, He rejoices when men finally realize they cant do it, and than turn to Him like the prodigal son and than just let Him be there loving father, but some seem to think He has favorites, and they all run around trying to prove there worth, The only thing that pleases God is faith, and that is sadly lacking in so called believers which is why so many prefer Prison than freedom in Christ.

There is but one fate for you Antinomianist "workers of iniquity", and it ain't pretty.

 

[mjrhealth]

There is but one fate for you Antinomianist "workers of iniquity", and it ain't pretty.

Well good you know whats coming. And I have no idea of what that means ....

Mat 15:17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
Mat 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man.
Mat 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies:

 

[Phoneman777]

Well good you know whats coming. And I have no idea of what that means :

look up antinomianist

 

[Taken]

look up antinomianist

Understood your comment was to mjrhealth...
But out of curiousity I looked up the word also..

Briefly found..

One who is against the law...

And a bit more specifically...against the Ten Commandments.

In Christianity, an antinomian is one who takes the principle of salvation by faith and divine grace to the point of asserting that the saved are not bound to follow the moral law contained in the Ten Commandments.

Kind of a funky meaning to me....
And really funky for you to make such a charge against another.

Morals are dictated by what is established as right and wrong.
Laws may or may not include a positive or negative (right/wrong) mandate.

Christ the Lord Jesus, gave us a summary of the 10 commandments on which ALL the laws of the Prophets hung and were acceptable.

And further, NO MAN can accomplish adherence to the 10 Commandments or the summary of TWO...
WITHOUT the POWER of thee Lord God Himself with/within the man.

Not once have I heard mjrhealth proclaim, to disregard or go against; Love above all things unto God, and Love toward all others.

So, that charge again, to me is funky.

If you glean through Scriptures you find, Gods Precepts...to which it benefits individual men to search those out, learn them, apply them....because they are about learning how to promote a favorable outcome when men deal with men.

As far as the TWO Commandments of the Ten Complied that Jesus spoke of...it is the Internal Power of the Lord God, that sustains the KEEPING of those Commands.....
Because really, without the Lords Power...and reacting to my own personal flesh thoughts...
I could easily open a can of OUT wit, and in days gone by OUT duel .... an enemy without a second thought.
However that was many moons ago and by my own election, I asked the Lord to step in and show me, give me the Power to settle differences without loathing another.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Earburner]

Understood your comment was to mjrhealth...
But out of curiousity I looked up the word also..

Briefly found..

One who is against the law...

And a bit more specifically...against the Ten Commandments.

In Christianity, an antinomian is one who takes the principle of salvation by faith and divine grace to the point of asserting that the saved are not bound to follow the moral law contained in the Ten Commandments.

Kind of a funky meaning to me....
And really funky for you to make such a charge against another.

Morals are dictated by what is established as right and wrong.
Laws may or may not include a positive or negative (right/wrong) mandate.

Christ the Lord Jesus, gave us a summary of the 10 commandments on which ALL the laws of the Prophets hung and were acceptable.

And further, NO MAN can accomplish adherence to the 10 Commandments or the summary of TWO...
WITHOUT the POWER of thee Lord God Himself with/within the man.

Not once have I heard mjrhealth proclaim, to disregard or go against; Love above all things unto God, and Love toward all others.

So, that charge again, to me is funky.

If you glean through Scriptures you find, Gods Precepts...to which it benefits individual men to search those out, learn them, apply them....because they are about learning how to promote a favorable outcome when men deal with men.

As far as the TWO Commandments of the Ten Complied that Jesus spoke of...it is the Internal Power of the Lord God, that sustains the KEEPING of those Commands.....
Because really, without the Lords Power...and reacting to my own personal flesh thoughts...
I could easily open a can of OUT wit, and in days gone by OUT duel .... an enemy without a second thought.
However that was many moons ago and by my own election, I asked the Lord to step in and show me, give me the Power to settle differences without loathing another.

Glory to God,
Taken

You still are unable (or unwilling) to discern the word "hid" in Col. 3:3-KJV.

 

[Phoneman777]

In Christianity, an antinomian is one who takes the principle of salvation by faith and divine grace to the point of asserting that the saved are not bound to follow the moral law contained in the Ten Commandments.

Kind of a funky meaning to me....
And really funky for you to make such a charge against another.

Why? If someone insists that the Ten Commandments are not to be regarded by New Covenant Christians (as if it is now acceptable to have other gods before God), they are Antinomianists, right or wrong?