MARK 1:1 THE SON OF GOD ******

[Doug]

Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

Mark wrote of the gospel of Jesus Christ, which identifies his deity as the Son of God, and that he is Christ, the Messiah.

Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.


Mark goes on in regard to John's baptism as being the beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ. John's baptism was for the remission of sins, to cleanse Israel as priests in the coming Davidic kingdom, in which, Israel would reign with Christ on earth.

Mark 1:7 And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.


John also came to identify Jesus as the Christ to Israel.

1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,

1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

Jesus preached the gospel of the prophetic Davidic kingdom on earth to Israel.

During the earthly ministry of Christ, Israel was to believe that Jesus is Christ, the Son of God for eternal life. Israel would by faith, have eternal life by believing in the name of Jesus.

John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Israel had to believe on the name of Jesus for eternal life, but to enter the kingdom on earth they had to be baptized. Israel had to obey the commandments to be physically saved to enter the kingdom.


Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

This clearly shows that there is not just one gospel in the Bible. The gospel of the kingdom is not the gospel of Christ that Paul preached. According to Paul's gospel we are to believe more than the name of Jesus; we are to believe Christ died for our sins and rose again for our justification unto eternal life.


Paul, after his conversion, preached Jesus is Christ, the Son of God.

Acts 9:20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

Paul was not at odds with God's purpose for Israel. Paul preached Jesus out of the law and prophets.

Acts 28:23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

Paul preached Jesus Christ according to the mystery and the scriptures of the prophets. The mystery, that God would reveal by Paul, was the salvation of the cross to all who believe, apart from Israel and it's covenants. Revealed was the church, a new creature, the Body of Christ. Revealed was all blessings in heavenly places in Christ.

Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

 

[101G]

GINOLJC, to all

Mark wrote of the gospel of Jesus Christ, which identifies his diety as the Son of God, and that he is Christ, the Messiah.

This clearly shows that there is not just one gospel in the Bible. This is not the gospel of Christ that Paul preached.

first, good topic, second, 1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1 Timothy 2:6 "Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time".

same Gospel, which is a testimony concerning (A) the person, (B) the office, and (C) the grace of Christ that followed, being Displayed or exhibited in the times of the Messiah himself, which "was" which "is" and which shall be preached the Gospel dispensation of times. the apostle Peter made it very clear, 1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
1 Peter 1:12 "Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
1 Peter 1:13 "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ".

PICJAG.

 

[Doug]

GINOLJC, to all


first, good topic, second, 1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1 Timothy 2:6 "Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time".

same Gospel, which is a testimony concerning (A) the person, (B) the office, and (C) the grace of Christ that followed, being Displayed or exhibited in the times of the Messiah himself, which "was" which "is" and which shall be preached the Gospel dispensation of times. the apostle Peter made it very clear, 1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
1 Peter 1:12 "Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
1 Peter 1:13 "Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ".

PICJAG.

 

[Doug]

Hi

Thanks for the post.

I am not quite sure what you were saying here.

Are you saying that that Israel believing Jesus is Christ, Son of God is the same as the gospel of Christ that Pau; revealed?

Are you also saying Peter, in 1 Peter, is talking of the same gospel as Paul?

 

[101G]

Hi

Thanks for the post.

I am not quite sure what you were saying here.

Are you saying that that Israel believing Jesus is Christ, Son of God is the same as the gospel of Christ that Pau; revealed?

Are you also saying Peter, in 1 Peter, is talking of the same gospel as Paul?

GINOLJC, I guess you're replying to me. if so, no, only the remnant believed Jesus was the Christ the Son of God. this was nothing new to any of the apostles. yes, Peter is preaching the same Gospel, only Paul in Christ "office", as an Introduction to the Gentiles, as well as his Person. Peter the "Person" and then his "Office". which both reveals this GRACE we live in.

so understand me, Both Jews and Gentiles must come by Christ, and not all men have this KNOWLEDGE.

PICJAG.

 

[Doug]

GINOLJC, I guess you're replying to me. if so, no, only the remnant believed Jesus was the Christ the Son of God. this was nothing new to any of the apostles. yes, Peter is preaching the same Gospel, only Paul in Christ "office", as an Introduction to the Gentiles, as well as his Person. Peter the "Person" and then his "Office". which both reveals this GRACE we live in.

so understand me, Both Jews and Gentiles must come by Christ, and not all men have this KNOWLEDGE.

PICJAG.

Hi

I may not have made myself clear but I never meant to say that Jews or Gentiles did not have eternal life by anything other than faith.

Peter spoke of grace, but God always saved us by his grace, all through the Bible. That does not mean it is the same grace revealed to Paul in this dispensation of grace. Peter's grace comes at the revelation of Christ at his coming.

Peter talks of the blood of Christ. Peter is speaking of the blood of the new testament for Israel.

Peter in Acts 2:30 speaks of the resurrection of Christ to sit on the throne of David. Paul speaks of the resurrection as being our justification unto eternal life.

 

[101G]

Hi

I may not have made myself clear but I never meant to say that Jews or Gentiles did not have eternal life by anything other than faith.

Peter spoke of grace, but God always saved us by his grace, all through the Bible. That does not mean it is the same grace revealed to Paul in this dispensation of grace. Peter's grace comes at the revelation of Christ at his coming.

Peter talks of the blood of Christ. Peter is speaking of the blood of the new testament for Israel.

Peter in Acts 2:30 speaks of the resurrection of Christ to sit on the throne of David. Paul speaks of the resurrection as being our justification unto eternal life.

First thanks for the reply, second, yes, salvation was preached by God from the begining when he "RESTED" or was "REFRESHED" from his work on the seventh day.

this gospel goes back from the begining, but some men not all understood God, hence this GRACE that come.

PICJAG.

 

[Doug]

First thanks for the reply, second, yes, salvation was preached by God from the begining when he "RESTED" or was "REFRESHED" from his work on the seventh day.

this gospel goes back from the begining, but some men not all understood God, hence this GRACE that come.

PICJAG.

Hi
Right, but my point was Peter was not preaching the same gospel even though they used the same words.

Peter spoke of grace, but God always saved us by his grace, all through the Bible. That does not mean it is the same grace revealed to Paul in this dispensation of grace. Peter's grace comes at the revelation of Christ at his coming.

Peter talks of the blood of Christ. Peter is speaking of the blood of the new testament for Israel.

Peter in Acts 2:30 speaks of the resurrection of Christ to sit on the throne of David. Paul speaks of the resurrection as being our justification unto eternal life.

 

[101G]

Right, but my point was Peter was not preaching the same gospel even though they used the same words.

ok, point out the diffrence.

Peter's grace comes at the revelation of Christ at his coming.

we don't believe so, listen, Acts 2:39 "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 2:40 "And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. this was on the day of Pentecost.

Peter in Acts 2:30 speaks of the resurrection of Christ to sit on the throne of David. Paul speaks of the resurrection as being our justification unto eternal life.

well without the resurrection onto God almighty sitting on the throne, then there is no eternal life. scripture, 1 Corinthians 15:13 "But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
1 Corinthians 15:14 "And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
1 Corinthians 15:15 "Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
1 Corinthians 15:16 "For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1 Corinthians 15:17 "And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

SAME gospel.

PICJAG.

 

[Doug]

ok, point out the diffrence.

we don't believe so, listen, Acts 2:39 "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 2:40 "And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. this was on the day of Pentecost.

well without the resurrection onto God almighty sitting on the throne, then there is no eternal life. scripture, 1 Corinthians 15:13 "But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
1 Corinthians 15:14 "And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
1 Corinthians 15:15 "Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
1 Corinthians 15:16 "For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1 Corinthians 15:17 "And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.

SAME gospel.

PICJAG.

Hello
You said ok, point out the difference. I did in my last post. Here it is again.

Peter spoke of grace, but God always saved us by his grace, all through the Bible. That does not mean it is the same grace revealed to Paul in this dispensation of grace. Peter's grace comes at the revelation of Christ at his coming.

You said we don't believe so, here is the verse.
Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 1 Peter 1:13

Peter talks of the blood of Christ. Peter is speaking of the blood of the new testament for Israel.

Peter in Acts 2:30 speaks of the resurrection of Christ to sit on the throne of David. Paul speaks of the resurrection as being our justification unto eternal life.

You said without the resurrection there is no eternal life.......I never said there was no resurrection and the scriptures you gave were to refute those who said so.

 

[101G]

GINOLJC, to all

Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; 1 Peter 1:13

well was he not revealed right in front of Peter and the rest of the disciple?, John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. did not Peter know of this GRACE for the OT prophets? 1 Peter 1:10 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto youTHAT'S THE SAME GRACE NOW, AND THE SAME GRACE THE PROPHET FORETOLD, AND NOW PREACHED, WHICH IS THE SAME GOSPEL
1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
1 Peter 1:12 "Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into".

PICJAG.

 

[bbyrd009]

Mark wrote of the gospel of Jesus Christ, which identifies his deity as the Son of God

ah, thank goodness Jesus Himself squashes this one, I don't even have to right

Israel had to believe on the name of Jesus for eternal life, but to enter the kingdom on earth they had to be baptized. Israel had to obey the commandments to be physically saved to enter the kingdom

prolly not, ok

This clearly shows that there is not just one gospel in the Bible. The gospel of the kingdom is not

its like this and like that, ok, but look Gospel is Word right, is there only One Word, not really. Yes, but then no. Can Gospel be clearly defined? I guess you can try, but I wouldn't wadr. Ok, keep looking up ok

 

[Doug]

GINOLJC, to all

well was he not revealed right in front of Peter and the rest of the disciple?, John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. did not Peter know of this GRACE for the OT prophets? 1 Peter 1:10 "Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto youTHAT'S THE SAME GRACE NOW, AND THE SAME GRACE THE PROPHET FORETOLD, AND NOW PREACHED, WHICH IS THE SAME GOSPEL
1 Peter 1:11 "Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
1 Peter 1:12 "Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into".

PICJAG.

Ok thanks

I think it a little leap to classify all references of grace as the same

 

[Doug]

ah, thank goodness Jesus Himself squashes this one, I don't even have to right

prolly not, ok
its like this and like that, ok, but look Gospel is Word right, is there only One Word, not really. Yes, but then no. Can Gospel be clearly defined? I guess you can try, but I wouldn't wadr. Ok, keep looking up ok

Ok thanks for the post

 

[bbyrd009]

How might one go and do even greater things than what they just got up off their knees worshipping, someone will ask. We are to be Elohim too right

 

[Doug]

How might one go and do even greater things than what they just got up off their knees worshipping, someone will ask. We are to be Elohim too right

Thanks