The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

[Phoneman777]

Do you remember the movie "The Stepford Wives"? Where the men had their wives programmed? Oh gosh, am I dating myself?? Lol.

Man, a whole town of submissive chicks...what a blissful thought LOLOLOL

 

[Phoneman777]

Man, a whole town of submissive chicks...what a blissful thought LOLOLOL

Seriously, how could anyone possibly be pleased with the affections of a girl programmed to exhibit them? I mean, it might seem OK at first, but after a few thousand years of "I love you...*beep*...I love you...*beep*, enough would be enough, so imagine that for all eternity!

 

[Nancy]

Man, a whole town of submissive chicks...what a blissful thought LOLOLOL

Hahahah! You would get tired of a woman who couldn't think for herself, i think

 

[Nancy]

Seriously, how could anyone possibly be pleased with the affections of a girl programmed to exhibit them? I mean, it might seem OK at first, but after a few thousand years of "I love you...*beep*...I love you...*beep*, enough would be enough, so imagine that for all eternity!

Not to mention the maintenance fees! Ya know, viruses, crashes...

 

[Phoneman777]

Not to mention the maintenance fees! Ya know, viruses, crashes...

Amen! Yes, anyone who couldn't think for herself is the kind of woman only a weak man could be pleases with

 

[friend of]

Man, a whole town of submissive chicks...what a blissful thought LOLOLOL

Too easy...

X___x

I personally prefer strong willed women. A partner capable of challenging me. I don't just want to babysit a spouse (even if she does happen to be attractive)

 

[marks]

We freely choose what we want based on the reasons God uses to control our choices.

That's not "freely choosing", that's more like running a program.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The question is"Why was unbelieving Israel blinded spiritually?" God does not do things arbitrarily, therefore the Law of Cause and Effect, the Law of Sowing and Reaping is a universal and inviolable law.

God sent John the Baptist specifically to Israel to prepare their hearts nad souls to receive their true Messiah -- Yeshua ha Mashiach. Then Jesus went to every village, town, and city, preaching the Gospel, doing good, and performing His miracles. He also invited all the Jews to come to Him and be saved.

In spite of all this, a very large number of Jews (particularly the religious leaders) rejected Him. He came unto His own (Israel) and His own received Him not. And that is why unbelieving Israel was blinded for a season. WILFUL UNBELIEF------->SPIRITUAL BLINDNESS.

Could all have believed and been saved? Absolutely. Could all have repented as Nineveh repented at the preaching of Jonah? Absolutely. Sinners can and do understand the SIMPLE Gospel, that Christ died for their sins and rose again for their justification. But all must respond to the Gospel, and all must obey the Gospel.

I don't believe in that their is such a thing as unbelieving Israel, as in fact Israel means Servant of God ! so such can not serve God now can they ? so who are they then Judah or just only lost Jews ? or maybe even some could be worse.
Judah means people of God, so they are much like a water baptised people only then, because they have not the Holy Spirit, as the Born Again are truly in fact Israel because they servants of God regardless of if you claim race etc etc as the Holy Spirit is not bound by race at all in fact.
And the fact is that the 'True OT Israelites' did come to Jesus Christ and were the first Christians and the ones who never picked up on Jesus Christ were not True OT Israelites at all, as Holy Moses said of such.

 

[Nancy]

Amen! Yes, anyone who couldn't think for herself is the kind of woman only a weak man could be pleases with

Yes. Or a man who is an abuser? Or just plain sociopaths and narcissists! Sadly, I can see certain people in this world that would love the Stepford wife

 

[Nancy]

That's not "freely choosing", that's more like running a program.

That is exactly what it is marks, running a program...which includes pre-programmed robots. Like our God is not powerful enough to work His good will through our sin, or despite our sin. That He does bring us freedom to "choose" Him is so awesome to me! ♥

 

[Nancy]

Oh, i get it. What a dark story! What was it that turned them into zombies?

I honestly do not remember! You could look it up...I think they might have come out with a re-make, not sure but, I am talking about the original one.

 

[Phoneman777]

That's not "freely choosing", that's more like running a program.

People have taken that "preprogrammed" idea a step further and thrown it back on God for the mess we're in...claiming He left a glitch in Lucifer's program.

 

[Phoneman777]

I honestly do not remember! You could look it up...I think they might have come out with a re-make, not sure but, I am talking about the original one.

The first movie was in '75, so I was still in single digits - watching the Six Million Dollar Man, Speed Racer, Popeye, Bugs Bunny/Road Runner, Jonny Quest and The Three Stooges...and blissfully unaware of just how heartbreaking life would eventually turn out to be LOL

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Why do you think people are not totally depraved when scripture says we are born speaking lies? And there's not one who does good and seeks after righteousness? And then asks how can a corrupt tree produce good fruit?

If People were totally depraved then one would be as a Dog Goat etc such can not enter into Heaven and God would not be an issue to any person regardless and Jesus would be just a man like any other in fact.

I think the word is flawed not totally depraved, as totally depraved do not have compassion towards others and would be like a Shark lurking to devour all that come it's way.
Take a child that obeys his Dad and then one that never does, one may be depraved but the other is he as well.

This garbage that I hear of some saying that everyone will go to Heaven in the end, because Jesus came to save all, well yes he did come to save all and the Gift is their for all, even Satan the Devil himself one could say ? but even the Devil himself and his Satanic mob will not pick it the Gift up.
They have rejected the Gift and that is what some so called Christians do, because they claim that the works of God are finished, such a one forgets that the Holy Spirit lives on.
Just because one says they believe in Jesus does not mean that they take him as their Lord, because they do not know him and he never knew them as he says of them on the left, they were workers of themselves claiming, look what we did for you, much like the stupid Jews building God a Temple with their hands did. such things are worthless as to God.
One must abide in Jesus Christ only, first and foremost in ones life to the end.
Salvation It's not a one time event as if one thinks that it is, you don't have it because if one does you live it 24/7 not because you have to but because you want to and love such.

No Man is not totally depraved not even a dog is totally depraved, or it would bite the hand that feeds it. that's what depraved people do is it not, bite the hand that feeds it, not to mention the hand here is Jesus.

 

[Nancy]

The first movie was in '75, so I was still in single digits - watching the Six Million Dollar Man, Speed Racer, Popeye, Bugs Bunny/Road Runner, Jonny Quest and The Three Stooges...and blissfully unaware of just how heartbreaking life would eventually turn out to be LOL

You were just itty bitty then! Aww!

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Oh, i get it. What a dark story! What was it that turned them into zombies?

The wives were murdered by their robot replacements!

 

[Nancy]

The wives were murdered by their robot replacements!

Oh yeah, that's it, tanx

 

[stunnedbygrace]

They did a remake with...Glenn Close and Nicole Kidman but the original was way better!

 

[Enoch111]

I don't believe in that their is such a thing as unbelieving Israel...

We need to go by what is actually stated in Scripture. And Romans 11 clearly talks about unbelieving Israel (Jews who did not believe on Christ) and how Israel will be saved after the Second Coming of Christ:

1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin...
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded...
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy...
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?...
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:..
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

 

[Laish]

Oh, i get it. What a dark story! What was it that turned them into zombies?

No just rebellious robots lol that kill their husbands
Blessings
Bill