The Trinity is NO lie.

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He might be considered triphrenic, since He is Triune in nature. Nothing insane about that.
No, what you have is mass confusion. Jesus thinks he is the Father. The spirit thinks he's Jesus. The father thinks he is one or both of the other. It simply isn't biblical.
 

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If it's not eisegesis because you made no comments then by the same token it can't be exegesis either.
Eisegesis is defined as reading into the text what you want it to say.

Exegesis is drawing from the text what it actually does say.
 

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No, what you have is mass confusion. Jesus thinks he is the Father. The spirit thinks he's Jesus. The father thinks he is one or both of the other. It simply isn't biblical.
I got me a fish.

What I'm preaching is very biblical.
 

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Already did. My statements were short and sweet.



That's because you have hardened your heart to the truth of this matter.
Not at all. I'm a born again believer in Jesus. My heart couldn't be softer. I challenge bad theology. As all Christian's should. Nothing prideful or hard hearted about it. It's our job.
 

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Not at all. I'm a born again believer in Jesus. My heart couldn't be softer. I challenge bad theology. As all Christian's should. Nothing prideful or hard hearted about it. It's our job.
Believe what you want to believe then.
 

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Already did. My statements were short and sweet.



That's because you have hardened your heart to the truth of this matter.
You just said you made no statements which is why your posts aren't eisegesis. Now you say you have made statements. Which is it?
 

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Eisegesis is defined as reading into the text what you want it to say.

Exegesis is drawing from the text what it actually does say.
Right, either way a statement is required either to read into the text or explain it. I've seen no deep explanations.
 

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If you have not been baptized in Jesus' Name, there should be doubt in your mind as to whether you have received the Holy Ghost.

He is absolutely promised to those of us who have received this baptism, so the fact that there is contention between us indicates that one of us doesn't have the Holy Ghost.

1Co 1:10, Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

Phl 2:1, If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,
Phl 2:2, Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
Phl 2:3, Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Rom 15:5, Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
Rom 15:6, That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

In Acts 2:38-39, there is a conditional promise given to "as many as the Lord our God shall call."

Rom 8:30, Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Entering into a relationship where you are reading your Bible on a regular basis doesn't save you. You must continue to seek the truth.

Mat 7:14, Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

 
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Using the Bible and using it correctly are two different things...2 Tim 2:15.
I think this is discussion is through. Your statement above indicates to me that you are not willing to consider anything that I have to say.
 

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If you have not been baptized in Jesus' Name, there should be doubt in your mind as to whether you have received the Holy Ghost.

He is absolutely promised to those of us who have received this baptism, so the fact that there is contention between us indicates that one of us doesn't have the Holy Ghost.

1Co 1:10, Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and thatthere be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

Phl 2:1, If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,
Phl 2:2, Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.
Phl 2:3, Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem other better than themselves.

Rom 15:5, Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus:
Rom 15:6, That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

In Acts 2:38-39, there is a conditional promise given to "as many as the Lord our God shall call."

Rom 8:30, Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

Entering into a relationship where you are reading your Bible on a regular basis doesn't save you. You must continue to seek the truth.

Mat 7:14, Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
I agree. When you reject the nature of God youre rejecting His essence and all that He is. On that point we agree. And since baptism doesn't save thats one more area of contention. I'm assuming you mean water baptism. If i'm wrong...sorry.
 

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I agree. When you reject the nature of God youre rejecting His essence and all that He is. On that point we agree. And since baptism doesn't save thats one more area of contention. I'm assuming you mean water baptism. If i'm wrong...sorry.
Yes you are wrong.

While baptism isn't necessary for salvation in my opinion, it does have the power to save; and also, those who do not receive it are less inclined to receive the whole truth (Luke 7:29-30).

I am thinking about putting in the effort to show you the scriptures on this issue, except that I don't believe that your heart is really very open to what I have to say.
 

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Yes you are wrong.

While baptism isn't necessary for salvation in my opinion, it does have the power to save; and also, those who do not receive it are less inclined to receive the whole truth (Luke 7:29-30).

I am thinking about putting in the effort to show you the scriptures on this issue, except that I don't believe that your heart is really very open to what I have to say.
If baptism had the power to save it'd be necessary. It doesn't so its not. And i'm showing you that 2 tim 2 has a lot to say about how we can honor God and accurately handle His word. As well as suggesting a study of the word logos. You don't seem too interested in that. Maybe its your heart thats not very open? Ever think of that?
 

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If you want my comments on what I have studied concerning the Trinity in the holy scriptures, you can begin by reading and thinking long and hard about the OP of this thread.
 

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If baptism had the power to save it'd be necessary. It doesn't so its not. And i'm showing you that 2 tim 2 has a lot to say about how we can honor God and accurately handle His word. As well as suggesting a study of the word logos. You don't seem too interested in that. Maybe its your heart thats not very open? Ever think of that?
I don't have access to your word study. But if you want to post it, I'll be happy to take a look. Are you willing to consider what I have to say on the subject of baptism?