God Gave Dominion to Man

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

marks

Well-Known Member
Oct 10, 2018
36,974
24,203
113
SoCal USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Genesis 1
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

I have two questions.

1. Is the dominion which God gave to Adam and Eve over the fish and birds and animals, or also over the earth itself?

2. Did God rescind that dominion?

Much love!
 

farouk

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2009
30,788
19,235
113
North America
Genesis 1
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

I have two questions.

1. Is the dominion which God gave to Adam and Eve over the fish and birds and animals, or also over the earth itself?

2. Did God rescind that dominion?

Much love!
It's not in the gift of the secular United Nations, to be sure! :)

The Resurrected Lord is He Who is sovereign over all things; Philippians 2; 1 Corinthians 15; Ephesians 1, etc.
 

amadeus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2008
23,232
33,208
113
81
Oklahoma
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Genesis 1
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

I have two questions.

1. Is the dominion which God gave to Adam and Eve over the fish and birds and animals, or also over the earth itself?

2. Did God rescind that dominion?

Much love!
The dominion remains over self... That dominion is what men have named "free will". The dominion includes over ourselves and therein is man's trouble. He took upon himself in his dominion over himself to disobey God. The only way back to God is to give that dominion over ourselves to God daily and more often as necessary. When we do then God will enter into us and work on the clean up process to make us once more like Him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

VictoryinJesus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2017
10,591
8,435
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Genesis 1
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

I have two questions.

1. Is the dominion which God gave to Adam and Eve over the fish and birds and animals, or also over the earth itself?

2. Did God rescind that dominion?

Much love!

Consider Dominion was moved (removed) in Colossians 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Dominion removed (moved)through the death of One...into the Spirit of God having His dominion. He was manifested in the flesh to destroy the works of death and evil, raised of the Father, justified in the Spirit. Hereforth we know no man after the flesh ....all made dead...that they may also be made alive in Him. justified in the Spirit. How can what is made “dead” have dominion? Dominion given to: whatsoever is born of God overcomes the world. Fruitful and multiplied and increased of God. Jude 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Dominion and power, both now and ever....That which remains when all else fails. “Glory and majesty to the only wise God our Saviour”!
 
Last edited:

marks

Well-Known Member
Oct 10, 2018
36,974
24,203
113
SoCal USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Consider Dominion was moved (removed) in Colossians 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

Dominion removed (moved)through the death of One...into the Spirit of God having His dominion. He was manifested in the flesh to destroy the works of death and evil, raised of the Father, justified in the Spirit. Hereforth we know no man after the flesh ....all made dead...that they may also be made alive in Him. justified in the Spirit. How can what is made “dead” have dominion? Dominion given to: whatsoever is born of God overcomes the world. Fruitful and multiplied and increased of God. Jude 1:25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

OK, there's some good food for thought!

Dominion was given to Adam, and would be a part of the Adamic Creation. So whether or in what way that dominion continues is moot for the born again, who do not have dominion within the world, but have overcome the world.

True dominion over all is in Christ Jesus, and in Him we inherit all things, and overcome all things.

Reading your post several times now . . .

Keys come with responsibility. God gives man dominion, man becomes responsible for what he does with it.

In that Jesus has all dominion, and we've submitted willingly to His dominion, His is the responsibility over us. It's not even that we now have dominion over ourselves, as if we call the shots. We submit to the Holy Spirit, and He lives through us.

This is good! Thank you VIJ!

Am I tracking with your thoughts?

Much love!
 

Not me

Well-Known Member
May 8, 2019
1,721
1,964
113
67
California, Ca.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Genesis 1
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

I have two questions.

1. Is the dominion which God gave to Adam and Eve over the fish and birds and animals, or also over the earth itself?

2. Did God rescind that dominion?

Much love!

Thought provoking question;

I’m of the mind that when God gave dominion to Adam, it was before the curse. Than seeing how Adam also was taken from the dust of the earth before the curse. Adam’s nature was of a heavenly quality. I believe it was to that nature God gave dominion over the earth to.

Once Adam fell into this earthy life he lost dominion over the elements. We, fallen man became an earthy animal “of this world”
but still “of it” not “over it”.

Anyways those are my thoughts.

Be blessed in Christ, Not me
 
Last edited:

marks

Well-Known Member
Oct 10, 2018
36,974
24,203
113
SoCal USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Thought provoking question;

I’m of the mind that when God gave dominion to Adam, it was before the curse. Than seeing how Adam also was taken from the dust of the earth before the curse. Adam’s nature was of a heavenly quality. I believe it was to that nature God gave dominion over the earth to.

Once Adam fell into this earthy life he lost dominion over the elements. We, fallen man became an earthy animal “of this world”
but still “of it” not “over it”.

Anyways those are my thoughts.

Be blessed in Christ, Not me
Hi Not me,

I think that's how I've thought in the past. But I've realized I can give this more thought.

What are your thoughts on:

1 Corinthians 15
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

What is the earthy? How does it differ from heavenly?

A couple of other things I'm considering:

After the flood, animals were made to be afraid of man. That certainly impacts dominion! Suddenly they no longer cooperate.

At the end of the age, judgment over 1/4 of the earth will include animals, and really all the ecology becoming actively hostile to man. No human dominion over animals there!

Much love!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

Not me

Well-Known Member
May 8, 2019
1,721
1,964
113
67
California, Ca.
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Hi Not me,

I think that's how I've thought in the past. But I've realized I can give this more thought.

What are your thoughts on:

1 Corinthians 15
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

What is the earthy? How does it differ from heavenly?

A couple of other things I'm considering:

After the flood, animals were made to be afraid of man. That certainly impacts dominion! Suddenly they no longer cooperate.

At the end of the age, judgment over 1/4 of the earth will include animals, and really all the ecology becoming actively hostile to man. No human dominion over animals there!

Much love!

I think that the first man being earthy is in contrast to Jesus being the “second man”.

As far as the animals being made afraid after the flood. I think the dominion God gave to Adam before the fall was so much more. I think Adam had dominion over the elements themselves where nothing in this world could harm him.

But these are just my thinks.

In Christ, Not me
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy and marks

GodsGrace

Well-Known Member
Aug 29, 2017
14,082
7,313
113
Tuscany
Faith
Christian
Country
Italy
Genesis 1
26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

I have two questions.

1. Is the dominion which God gave to Adam and Eve over the fish and birds and animals, or also over the earth itself?

2. Did God rescind that dominion?

Much love!
1. The dominion is over the fish and the birds and all the animals
AND ALSO over earth itself.

2. God did not rescind that dominion because man still reigns on the earth...
HOWEVER, when Adam sinned, man lost:

His relationship with God
His relationship with other men
His relationship with himself
His relationship with nature

If you remember, it would now be necessary for Adam to toil to get food from the earth...before the earth cooperated with him.
Animals would be his enemy, and also other men.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

marks

Well-Known Member
Oct 10, 2018
36,974
24,203
113
SoCal USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
If you remember, it would now be necessary for Adam to toil to get food from the earth...before the earth cooperated with him.
Great point!

Dominion over the earth would mean, I plant it, it grows. But no more. (meaning no longer after that)

Much love!
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: GodsGrace

GodsGrace

Well-Known Member
Aug 29, 2017
14,082
7,313
113
Tuscany
Faith
Christian
Country
Italy
Great point!

Dominion over the earth would mean, I plant it, it grows. But no more.

Much love!
Right.
It doesn't mean we CONTROL the earth...
It just means that we can do MORE than an animal can do, or that nature can do.
We can protect ourselves from the heat...the cold...from hunger.

But let's remember the dust bowl.
Let's remember that persons are starving...
And a hurricane is headed for Florida.

This, however, has more to do with the sin nature affecting everything
more than it has to do with dominian.
Romans 8:19-22
 

marks

Well-Known Member
Oct 10, 2018
36,974
24,203
113
SoCal USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Right.
It doesn't mean we CONTROL the earth...
It just means that we can do MORE than an animal can do, or that nature can do.
We can protect ourselves from the heat...the cold...from hunger.

But let's remember the dust bowl.
Let's remember that persons are starving...
And a hurricane is headed for Florida.

This, however, has more to do with the sin nature affecting everything
more than it has to do with dominian.
Romans 8:19-22
Oops . . . I meant, Adam would plant and it would just grow, but no longer, not after God cursed the ground.

Much love!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nancy

VictoryinJesus

Well-Known Member
Jan 26, 2017
10,591
8,435
113
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Oops . . . I meant, Adam would plant and it would just grow, but no longer, not after God cursed the ground.

Much love!

Consider there is good ground blessed and not cursed to be labored in vain. The move of dominion to and into: 1 Corinthians 3:4-9 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? [5] Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? [6] I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. [7] So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. [8] Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. [9] For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

Even to: Isaiah 65:23-25 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them. [24] And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear. [25] The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.
 

Nancy

Well-Known Member
Staff member
Apr 30, 2018
17,458
26,867
113
Buffalo, Ny
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Hi Not me,

I think that's how I've thought in the past. But I've realized I can give this more thought.

What are your thoughts on:

1 Corinthians 15
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

What is the earthy? How does it differ from heavenly?

A couple of other things I'm considering:

After the flood, animals were made to be afraid of man. That certainly impacts dominion! Suddenly they no longer cooperate.

At the end of the age, judgment over 1/4 of the earth will include animals, and really all the ecology becoming actively hostile to man. No human dominion over animals there!

Much love!

Good questions...much for thought and prayer and study! I just hope my little dogs won't attack me, lol.
 
  • Like
Reactions: marks

Enoch111

Well-Known Member
May 27, 2018
17,682
16,014
113
Alberta
Faith
Christian
Country
Canada
1. Is the dominion which God gave to Adam and Eve over the fish and birds and animals, or also over the earth itself?
Not the earth itself, but only the living creatures.
2. Did God rescind that dominion?
Yes. When Adam and Eve sinned, they lost this privilege, which was then transferred to Christ. See Hebrews 2.