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[Earburner]

So then, its NOT about a building structure, but rather IN THEMSELVES and among OTHER Christians, in which we are to know how to behave ourselves.
1 Tim. 3:15 but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how men ought to behave themselves in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

 

[Marymog]

15 but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how men ought to behave themselves in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
> Every "born again" Christian is the very dwelling place of God the Father and God the Son.
As Jesus' physical body was the Living temple (house) for God the Father, so also we who are "born again of His Spirit", are the temple (house) of the Living God.
John 2[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his body.

1 Cor. 3[16] Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Thank you.

Since I am the temple of God am I the pillar and foundation of truth?

 

[Marymog]

Its not about failing, but rather learning!

You have made it clear who you do not believe is the pillar and foundation of truth (you and the CC).

I have already answered the question. Now can you please TRY and answer the question?

Who is "the church" spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:15?

 

[Marymog]

So then, its NOT about a building structure, but rather IN THEMSELVES and among OTHER Christians, in which we are to know how to behave ourselves.
1 Tim. 3:15 but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how men ought to behave themselves in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

Ummmmm......I never said it was a building structure....sooooooo

Who is "the church" spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:15?

 

[Marymog]

So then, its NOT about a building structure, but rather IN THEMSELVES and among OTHER Christians, in which we are to know how to behave ourselves.
1 Tim. 3:15 but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how men ought to behave themselves in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

This theory you have put forth does not answer. It says the house of God is the pillar and foundation of truth.


Soooo which house of God is the pillar and foundation of truth? I CAN'T be all 2 billion Christians sooooooo who or what is it?

Patient Mary

 

[Earburner]

Thank you.

Since I am the temple of God am I the pillar and foundation of truth?

Maybe you can explain that better to yourself, when you can understand what 1 Cor. 2:16 means:
[12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
[13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
[16] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

> So then, do you or don't you, HAVE the mind of Christ??
Rev. 3[12] Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
> The temple is what?
Ans. "The house of God", which are "born again" Christians, in which God DWELLS, aka "the body of Christ".

 

[Earburner]

This theory you have put forth does not answer. It says the house of God is the pillar and foundation of truth.


Soooo which house of God is the pillar and foundation of truth? I CAN'T be all 2 billion Christians sooooooo who or what is it?
Patient Mary

The house of God IS NOT a building structure,
but rather people who have put their faith in the Saving Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
All of such are "the body of Christ", "the temple of God", "the HOUSE of God", in which HE DWELLS!!

 

[Earburner]

In brief, we EACH, who are of faith in the Lord Jesus, are collectively "The House of God" , aka "the body of Christ" .

 

[Nondenom40]

I already made it clear what I believe about 1 Peter 3:15.....You failed...

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We aren't talking about 1 Peter 3:15 are we? Youre quick to respond slow to hear. This is exactly what Calvin meant when talking about catholics having blind rage. You and a couple of other catholics here are poster children for that exact thing. When you want to talk rationally let me know.

 

[Earburner]

Rom. 8[9] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Rev. 3[20] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door,
I will come IN TO him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

 

[Earburner]

Earburner quoted:
"Rev. 3[12] Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God,"
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1 John 5[4] For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

[5] Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

 

[Earburner]

If anyone believes that Jesus is the Son of God, scripture says that they are an overcomer.
If anyone is an overcomer, Jesus said that He would make them to be a pillar in the temple of His God.
The temple of God is the House of God, in which God dwells by His Holy Spirit. See Romans 8:9.

All "born again" Christians are the temple/house of God.

 

[Earburner]

Therefore, the temple/house of God is the body of Christ, which is made up of individual believers, called the "church" , aka "called out ones" .

 

[epostle]

 

[Marymog]

Maybe you can explain that better to yourself, when you can understand what 1 Cor. 2:16 means:
[12] Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
[13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
[16] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

> So then, do you or don't you, HAVE the mind of Christ??
Rev. 3[12] Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
> The temple is what?
Ans. "The house of God", which are "born again" Christians, in which God DWELLS, aka "the body of Christ".

Thank you earburner.

Anyone that is born again are members of the house of God which means that God dwells in them.... they are the fulfillment of 1 Timothy 3:15? Is that what you are trying to convey to me by the use of this passage from Scripture?

I sincerely apologize if I am misunderstanding you.

Bible study Mary

 

[Marymog]

The house of God IS NOT a building structure,
but rather people who have put their faith in the Saving Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
All of such are "the body of Christ", "the temple of God", "the HOUSE of God", in which HE DWELLS!!

Thank you.

Soooo there are 2 billion "people who have put their faith in the Saving Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ".

Which ONE of those 2 billion is the pillar and foundation of truth? OR are you saying that all 2 billion of us Christians combined are the pillar and foundation of truth?

Mary

 

[Marymog]

We aren't talking about 1 Peter 3:15 are we? Youre quick to respond slow to hear. This is exactly what Calvin meant when talking about catholics having blind rage. You and a couple of other catholics here are poster children for that exact thing. When you want to talk rationally let me know.

Ummmmm.....yes we are. It all started when in post #87 you accused me of misquoting it.

When you can stay on subject let me know.....

 

[Nondenom40]

Ummmmm.....yes we are. It all started when in post #87 you accused me of misquoting it.

When you can stay on subject let me know.....

Wow the blindness!! Read these posts again, with your eyes open.

 

[bbyrd009]

so, your forums are an open grave, so you come to a Christian forum?
ok

(romans :rolleyes)

 

[Earburner]

Thank you.

Soooo there are 2 billion "people who have put their faith in the Saving Grace of our Lord Jesus Christ".

Which ONE of those 2 billion is the pillar and foundation of truth? OR are you saying that all 2 billion of us Christians combined are the pillar and foundation of truth?

Mary

but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how men ought to behave themselves in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
> When Jesus was physically here with us, He said that He was "the way, THE TRUTH and the Life".
Now, if Jesus (the Truth) be in you, by the Holy Spirit of God, you are now a member of His body, which is collectively called "the church" , aka "called out ones".
In that collection of born again believers (God's people- Rom. 8:8-9), called the church, they are the pillar and ground of His Truth.

BUT if you are not a "born again" member of His body, then Romans 8:8-9 also says that you are none of His.
From that scripture, what is the determining factor that authorizes one to be a member of His body, aka the "church"?
Ans. Whosoever HAS the Holy Spirit of Christ/God.
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Now lets go back to those scriptures I previously quoted:
"Rev. 3[12] Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God,"
.
1 John 5[4] For whatsoever is born of God overcomeththe world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
[5] Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
.
Every person, who believes in Jesus, and has recieved the free Gift of His Holy Spirit,
IS an overcomer!!
Therefore, every overcomer will be made by Jesus to be a pillar (of His Truth) in God's temple (His church).
Quite literally, they become "the pillar and ground of [the Lord's] truth.