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[Earburner]

Sounds as if your claiming Peter was a little quick to open his mouth prior to the gifting of the Holy Spirit, if this is the case then I agree?

"Epostle" forgets that the church universal, both Protestant and Catholic, is headed by Christ, and not by Peter or any successor!
Ephesians 5:23; Collosians 1:18

 

[Earburner]

^ Colossians 1:18

 

[Nondenom40]

Catholic apologist Scott Hahn was a Presbyterian minister who converted to Catholicism. But in spite of his seminary education, he is seriously confused about fundamental Bible truths. No need to listen to Scott Hahn and his pro-Catholic propaganda.

Here's a gem from Hahn: "Hebrews is unique in the emphasis it places on "covenant" as a cultic and liturgical institution."

Anyone familiar with the book of Hebrews can see that this is TOTAL NONSENSE. There is nothing cultic or liturgical about the New Covenant which is the focus of the book of Hebrews.

Hahn publishes what i call bubble gum theology. Its simplistic at best. All one has to do to counter rc theology is simply say 'show me'. It all falls like a house of cards.

 

[epostle]

Earburner will be ignored.

 

[Earburner]

Earburner will be ignored.

Epostle will be ignored by all, because he denies the scriptures I referenced.

CAtholic Douay Rheims Bible-
Eph. 5[23] Because the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is the head of the church. He is the saviour of his body.
Col. 1[18] And he is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he may hold the primacy:

 

[Marymog]

You keep misquoting 1 Tim 3:15...just fyi. .

Not true. You have accepted the 1,500 year teaching and I have accepted the 2,000 year teaching.....soooo whomever taught you what you believe about 1 Timoty 3:15 taught you wrong....you should ignore them.

 

[Nondenom40]

Not true. You have accepted the 1,500 year teaching and I have accepted the 2,000 year teaching.....soooo whomever taught you what you believe about 1 Timoty 3:15 taught you wrong....you should ignore them.

You should open a Bible and compare what it says with what you wrote.

 

[Marymog]

You should open a Bible and compare what it says with what you wrote.

I meant to say you have accepted the 500 year teaching (not 1,500 year teaching) which is the teaching of the Reformers....I apologize for that mistake.

But I am curious about your theory.....Who is "the church" spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:15 if it is not "The Church"?

 

[Marymog]

"Epostle" forgets that the church universal, both Protestant and Catholic, is headed by Christ, and not by Peter or any successor!
Ephesians 5:23; Collosians 1:18

According to your theory if there is no successor then we can all teach what we want and we would all be right.

 

[Nondenom40]

I meant to say you have accepted the 500 year teaching (not 1,500 year teaching) which is the teaching of the Reformers....I apologize for that mistake.

But I am curious about your theory.....Who is "the church" spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:15 if it is not "The Church"?

What theory? You didn't cite the verse in it's entirety. And it makes a difference. That's fact, not a theory.

 

[Marymog]

What theory? You didn't cite the verse in it's entirety. And it makes a difference. That's fact, not a theory.

Hi dodgeball,

Who is "the church" spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:15?

 

[Nondenom40]

Hi dodgeball,

Who is "the church" spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:15?

Not me. I asked you to open a Bible and compare with what you wrote. You obviously have no problem misquoting the Bible to suit your theology. That's what catholicism is but on.

 

[Marymog]

Not me. I asked you to open a Bible and compare with what you wrote. You obviously have no problem misquoting the Bible to suit your theology. That's what catholicism is but on.

Who is "the church" spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:15?

 

[Earburner]

According to your theory if there is no successor then we can all teach what we want and we would all be right.

All who are "born again" of His Spirit, the Holy Spirit, are to hear the "mind of Christ" that is deposited within them, as they study His words (John 3:3-8).
KJV- John 16[13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
RCC-DR Bible-John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will teach you all truth. For he shall not speak of himself; but what things soever he shall hear, he shall speak; and the things that are to come, he will show you.
> Because Jesus is "the truth", the Holy Spirit will only teach/guide us into His Truth.
Therefore, concerning every biblical topic, among men "there can always be more than one lie, but by His Spirit, there can never be more than one truth"- Earburner.

 

[Marymog]

"Epostle" forgets that the church universal, both Protestant and Catholic, is headed by Christ, and not by Peter or any successor!
Ephesians 5:23; Collosians 1:18

If the church is universal and headed by Christ then why is Christ giving the Protestant and the Catholics different interpretations of Scripture?

 

[Marymog]

> Because Jesus is "the truth", the Holy Spirit will only teach/guide us into His Truth.
Therefore, concerning every biblical topic, among men "there can always be more than one lie, but by His Spirit, there can never be more than one truth"- Earburner.

Sooooo why is the Holy Spirit telling all the Protestant leaders different "truths"?

Curious Mary

 

[Nondenom40]

Who is "the church" spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:15?

Can't admit you misquoted the verse huh? Let's get past this first, it's been out there a while.

 

[Marymog]

Can't admit you misquoted the verse huh? Let's get past this first, it's been out there a while.

I already made it clear what I believe about 1 Peter 3:15.....You failed...

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[Earburner]

Who is "the church" spoken of in 1 Timothy 3:15?

15 but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how men ought to behave themselves in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.
> Every "born again" Christian is the very dwelling place of God the Father and God the Son.
As Jesus' physical body was the Living temple (house) for God the Father, so also we who are "born again of His Spirit", are the temple (house) of the Living God.
John 2[19] Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
[20] Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
[21] But he spake of the temple of his body.

1 Cor. 3[16] Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

 

[Earburner]

I already made it clear what I believe about 1 Peter 3:15.....You failed...

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Its not about failing, but rather learning!