I wonder where this might lead...

[Prayer Warrior]

There is a symptom overlooked in the above article...because this is all a counterfeit, there is always an intense hatred for the genuine if challenged.
The description of a reptile emerging from the person seen in the above artwork at the Vatican, revealing the true source of the spirit in the Vatican.

I have experienced this hatred aimed at me, and when this happens, I work really hard to keep in mind that it is the evil spirit at work. We wrestle not against flesh and blood!!!

 

[bbyrd009]

And the ones in scripture?

could you give an example?

 

[bbyrd009]

There is a symptom overlooked in the above article...because this is all a counterfeit, there is always an intense hatred for the genuine if challenged.
The description of a reptile emerging from the person seen in the above artwork at the Vatican, revealing the true source of the spirit in the Vatican.

snakes are broadly misunderstood by us now imo, and not what we imagine them to be i guess
nahash
Snakes in the Bible: how a symbol of wisdom got its bad rep
nephesh
In Hebrew the word for soul describes not a thing but an act

 

[brakelite]

could you give an example?

KJV Matthew 7
Prayer and Good Actions
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

What we expect to find when we open the door... That is where we come adrift... But we should expect the for to open, then come the surprises

 

[bbyrd009]

KJV Matthew 7
Prayer and Good Actions
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

What we expect to find when we open the door... That is where we come adrift... But we should expect the for to open, then come the surprises

my initial response here is that the kjv scribes have headed this "prayer and good actions," and so we naturally remove this to a religious setting rather than an irl one, where it belongs, as the opening to Matthew 7 likely even indicates. "Prayer" meant "wish" when ol' Queenie was having his way with the Bible, and imo we have a vastly warped def of the term now, wadr.
12In everything, then, do to others as you would have them do to you. For this is the essence of the Law and the Prophets.

So, imo asking does not = praying, the way we define praying now, but to attempt a cogent reply to your initial Q, i certainly believe that if we ask in Joshua's Name, we will be given, however in general i would say that this is rarely done, this kind of asking, and instead we generally ask for things or for outcomes, a la Santa Claus, wadr. Asking in Jesus' Name is asking for a lesson imo; asking for pain.

That is unless we are asking in supplication, in service to someone else, perhaps. But to elevate this "seek, and you will find" to a literal promise rather than a spiritual principle can easily lead to disappointment and abuse, imo. For instance if one seeks riches hard enough they will find them, almost surely, but then what have they got?

Not sure about this "when we open the door" thing, not meaning to be...pedantic, sorry, not meaning to be that guy lol, but imo this is not indicated in this v anyway

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

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In other words... If the education of your children is based on UNESCO curricula, then your children are being educated according to channeled demonic lies through highly placed men and women under the direct control of Lucifer... Satan. I do not know how more direct I can put this. Are you awake now? Are you paying attention?

Watchtower has been saying since the league of nation's came into existence that the league of nation's as well as the United Nations or UN is an Antichrist organization, that it's The Image of the Beast. John wrote in Revelation that the image of the beast would appear, disappear, and then rise again. That is exactly what happened to an organization promoted by Britain and the United States, one that was intended to unite and represent the world’s kingdoms.* This organization appeared after World War I and was known as the League of Nations. It disappeared with the onset of World War II. During that war, God’s people declared that according to the prophecy in Revelation, the image of the wild beast would ascend again. And rise it did—as the United Nations.—Rev. 17:8.

 

[4Jesus]

Quote....
In May 2019, Pope Francis made a strong push for globalism, calling for a supranational, legally constituted body to enforce United Nations Sustainable Development Goals and to implement “climate change” policies.

More recently, during an inflight press conference on his return from a seven-day apostolic visit to Africa, Francis said our “duty” is to “obey international institutions,” such as the United Nations and the European Union.

The Pope is continuing the New Age agenda of the UN. that this thread has been discussing...all through education. In his speech he referenced "Laudato Si". Laudato si' (24 May 2015) | Francis
Paragraphs 236 and 237 of that encyclical are, at least for me, a summary of the entire agenda as far as the Pope is concerned. It's all about the esoteric remember...Lucifer...Baal...Babylon...sun worship. Think about it.

This is much farther along than I thought it would be at this point. I used to think the rapture would've had Christian believers out of here by the time this started up - guess not. Ugh...

 

[brakelite]

This is much farther along than I thought it would be at this point. I used to think the rapture would've had Christian believers out of here by the time this started up - guess not. Ugh...

I have for over 20 years rejected any notion that Christians would be absent from the earth during the final years prior to the second coming. The closer we get to the final implementation of the mark of the beast (another area where I disagree with the popular theology) and the global reign of Antichrist (yep, another area where I disagree with the current propaganda) the more convinced I become that our purpose here is to be witnesses to the final events.
This meeting that the Pope is promoting, May 14th, 2020 has the potential to be a watershed event. And I have no doubt that the date, 14/05/2020 holds deep significance for Kabbalist esoteric leaders who rely so much on numerology to guide their next moves.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

This is much farther along than I thought it would be at this point. I used to think the rapture would've had Christian believers out of here by the time this started up - guess not. Ugh...

A lot of people are going to be shocked when the rapture doesn't happen at all.

 

[4Jesus]

A lot of people are going to be shocked when the rapture doesn't happen at all.

I still have hope for it, for believers who wish to go in it. For me, personally, whichever way God wants me to go.

 

[4Jesus]

I have for over 20 years rejected any notion that Christians would be absent from the earth during the final years prior to the second coming. The closer we get to the final implementation of the mark of the beast (another area where I disagree with the popular theology) and the global reign of Antichrist (yep, another area where I disagree with the current propaganda) the more convinced I become that our purpose here is to be witnesses to the final events.
This meeting that the Pope is promoting, May 14th, 2020 has the potential to be a watershed event. And I have no doubt that the date, 14/05/2020 holds deep significance for Kabbalist esoteric leaders who rely so much on numerology to guide their next moves.

Can you share the reason why you think the Kabbalahists hold onto that date specifically? I haven't heard about it.

 

[brakelite]

Can you share the reason why you think the Kabbalahists hold onto that date specifically? I haven't heard about it.

No I can't. I only suspect this. The Pope, as all members of secret societies, follow kabbalist ways. Dates, times, are very important to them. Take the dates the Popes for centuries have used by way of jubilees etc. Every major event they plan is ruled by numerology. I don't believe this will be any exception.

 

[brakelite]

Can you share the reason why you think the Kabbalahists hold onto that date specifically? I haven't heard about it.

Kabbalah is intricately connected to the Hebrew alphabet and scriptures. Israel claimed their independence on May 14 1948. Does 2020 being 72 years later hold some significance? Who knows?

 

[4Jesus]

No I can't. I only suspect this. The Pope, as all members of secret societies, follow kabbalist ways. Dates, times, are very important to them. Take the dates the Popes for centuries have used by way of jubilees etc. Every major event they plan is ruled by numerology. I don't believe this will be any exception.

To the google I go!

 

[4Jesus]

Kabbalah is intricately connected to the Hebrew alphabet and scriptures. Israel claimed their independence on May 14 1948. Does 2020 being 72 years later hold some significance? Who knows?

Well the 70 year did hold some significance for that date, May 14, 2018, in one aspect: Embassy of the United States, Jerusalem - Wikipedia

 

[brakelite]

We are discussing here matters of global religious significance, a significance that poses a dire threat to everyone on the planet by means of deception and delusion...even to the elect, although for them, so long as they continue to place their trust in the scriptures, they shall not fall prey to the deceivers. But this threat, one need not imagine, is something one would expect to be revealed in prophecy yes? If this threat of deception and occult manipulation of the masses through education is as serious as it sounds, would not God have warned us before hand of its danger and extent of influence? I believe yes, and I believe if one is willing to approach the subject with an open mind, the warnings are clear.
In prophecy was have two principal protagonists. Two branches of the church...the true, and the false. The pure woman of Revelation 12 representing the true, and the harlot of Revelation 16-18 representing the apostate false church, Mystery, Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth. The question we need to answer I think is, does the current scenario meet the criteria demanded of prophecy that we may readily identify the main characters in the narrative? In other words, are current events accurately reflecting prophecy?
What do you think...and please, no long doctorate theses on the rapture and the tribulation etc etc. This is about global unity under ecumenism...the occult...the UN...and the two women of Revelation and who they represent. And if what we witness today is indeed the final events, and Babylon is NOT represented in your mind in any of the characters in the current scenario, then where does she fit in? Or is Babylon in your opinion something, or someone else yet to appear? And what of the beasts of Revelation 13? Where are they?

 

[Keraz]

We are discussing here matters of global religious significance, a significance that poses a dire threat to everyone on the planet by means of deception and delusion...even to the elect, although for them, so long as they continue to place their trust in the scriptures, they shall not fall prey to the deceivers

We are at the edge of world shattering events.
This much is plain from the present world situation, esp that of the Middle East region.
I know that area has been a mess for all our lives, but it has to be sorted sometime. God thru His prophets has told us how He will do it.
At the moment that the Islamic nations and entities commence their long avowed attempt to remove Israel, the 'canker' in their midst, He will take action and the world will never be the same again. Zechariah 3:9, Psalms 11:4-6, Joel 1:15-20. Psalms 83

The Elect: Jesus said: Imposters will come, claiming to be messiahs or prophets and will mislead, if possible; even the elect. Matthew 24:24 And it IS possible for the Elect to be deceived. Matthew 24:4
Proved by the huge variety of beliefs about what the Lord has planned for His people in the end times. Most, if not all are faithful Christians, someone is right, surely; but that leaves 99% wrong and deceived in their beliefs about the future.
Sad; isn't it?

 

[brakelite]

We are at the edge of world shattering events.
This much is plain from the present world situation, esp that of the Middle East region.
I know that area has been a mess for all our lives, but it has to be sorted sometime. God thru His prophets has told us how He will do it.
At the moment that the Islamic nations and entities commence their long avowed attempt to remove Israel, the 'canker' in their midst, He will take action and the world will never be the same again. Zechariah 3:9, Psalms 11:4-6, Joel 1:15-20. Psalms 83

The Elect: Jesus said: Imposters will come, claiming to be messiahs or prophets and will mislead, if possible; even the elect. Matthew 24:24 And it IS possible for the Elect to be deceived. Matthew 24:4
Proved by the huge variety of beliefs about what the Lord has planned for His people in the end times. Most, if not all are faithful Christians, someone is right, surely; but that leaves 99% wrong and deceived in their beliefs about the future.
Sad; isn't it?

So how do you see the current scenario with the melding of the new age through the UN, and the ecumenical movement and the increasing interest in returning to Rome from professed Protestants , and the global push from the Pope to unite....how do you see that fitting with prophecy?

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Here's are some interesting quotes by so-called "Christian mystics" which reveal the pantheistic basis for all mysticism:

The mystic recognized and holds "that far removed from ordinary paths and interests, even in the order of the soul, there is a grand experiment possible, and that some have achieved it." (1) This experiment is a spiritual process which demonstrates the possibility in this present life and in this body of humiliation of knowing God. By means of this spiritual operation, the mystic can accomplish a "reversion to the fontal source of souls," and enter "into an ecstatic communion with the universal consciousness."

(1) A. E. Waite, A Book of Mystery and Vision, p. x.

Source: Aspects of Christian Mysticism by William Major Scott​

What is this "universal consciousness" that William Scott is saying the Christian can enter into?

New Thought author Charles Haanel said of the universal mind and its relationship to humans:

The Universal Mind [also called Universal Consciousness], being infinite and omnipotent, has unlimited resources at its command, and when we remember that it is also omnipresent, we cannot escape the conclusion that we must be an expression or manifestation of that Mind. A recognition and understanding of the resources of the subconscious mind will indicate that the only difference between the subconscious and the Universal is one of degree. They differ only as a drop of water differs from the ocean. They are the same in kind and quality, the difference is one of degree only.[2] (emphasis in bold added)
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Ernest Holmes, the founder of the Science of Mind movement, described the universal mind as follows:

The Universal Mind contains all knowledge. It is the potential ultimate of all things. To It all things are possible.[1]
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Source: Universal mind - Wikipedia​

 

[Giuliano]

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snakes are broadly misunderstood by us now imo, and not what we imagine them to be i guess
nahash
Snakes in the Bible: how a symbol of wisdom got its bad rep
nephesh
In Hebrew the word for soul describes not a thing but an act

The concept of the serpent is very misunderstood. People cannot explain why Moses put a brass serpent on a pole or why Jesus compared himself to that serpent. Perhaps more mysteriously (if I may go New Agey on people), Messiah and serpent both equal 358 using standard gematria.