39 seeming would be immigrants found dead in truck in England

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@Pearl You're in the UK as well; did you see this report? :rolleyes:
Yes it's horrendous and the evening news has been full of the story. Desperate people being taken advantage of and identifying them all will take forever. They also need to find out where and how they all got into the lorry. It said the temp was -25 and there was no air. The poor things didn't stand a chance but somebody must have made a lot of money.
 
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Yes it's horrendous and the evening news has been full of the story. Desperate people being taken advantage of and identifying them all will take forever. They also need to find out where and how they all got into the lorry. It said the temp was -25 and there was no air. The poor things didn't stand a chance but somebody must have made a lot of money.
I think also ppl have started to comment on the wider ramifications of immigration issues.
 
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Yes, really sad - shortly afterwards they found more immigrants in another lorry, but they were alive.
They apparently came from Bulgaria, the driver was from northern Ireland- he has been arrested.
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I think it may also lift the lid on racketeering based in Northern Ireland.
 
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I think it may also lift the lid on racketeering based in Northern Ireland.
People trafficking is a big business- those running it could be anywhere in Europe, the driver could have got involved anywhere he usually travels.
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Seemingly all the dead may be would be immigrants; shows how desperate many immigrants can get, I guess...
Yes. This is sad. But everyone trying to violate immigration laws and cross borders illegally is responsible. Under normal circumstances all these people would face either immediate deportation or jail time.

Even more irresponsible are all the Western governments who deliberately allowed their immigration laws to be violated over and over again, and in fact promoted illegal migrant invasion, particularly from Arab and Muslim lands. This is the outcome of IRRESPONSIBLE governments betraying their own citizens and making their own countries into Third World countries.

Not to mention the stupid idea of creating a Europe without national borders. And now we have the evil Democrats in the USA promoting the idea of free health care for illegal immigrants, as well as open borders to undermine their own country. And George Soros is the puppeteer and financier of all this lawlessness.

The rule of law has been thoroughly destroyed, and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
 
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Yes. This is sad. But everyone trying to violate immigration laws and cross borders illegally is responsible. Under normal circumstances all these people would face either immediate deportation or jail time.

Even more irresponsible are all the Western governments who deliberately allowed their immigration laws to be violated over and over again, and in fact promoted illegal migrant invasion, particularly from Arab and Muslim lands. This is the outcome of IRRESPONSIBLE governments betraying their own citizens and making their own countries into Third World countries.

Not to mention the stupid idea of creating a Europe without national borders. And now we have the evil Democrats in the USA promoting the idea of free health care for illegal immigrants, as well as open borders to undermine their own country. And George Soros is the puppeteer and financier of all this lawlessness.

The rule of law has been thoroughly destroyed, and now the chickens are coming home to roost.
People can even be dubbed "illegals" for being simply alive and breathing; young ppl who have known nothing apart from being an underclass with few rights for all their conscious lives; and some of the having to obtain a "pardon" for having breathed, before their rights are restored.

I don't blame everything on migrants.
 

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and some of the having to obtain a "pardon" for having breathed, before their rights are restored.
No one has the right to enter any country without a proper visa and remain in that country without proper authorization. Why don't you try and brazen your way into any country without the proper documents (where required)? You will probably end up in jail.

There have been thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of trained and qualified people from third world countries who have had to jump through all kinds of hoops for several years before they could obtain a visa in the past. But today all you have to do is join a migrant caravan and thumb your nose at border patrol. Or get put on a leaky boat (without food and water) from North Africa and expect to be rescued by the Italians (who are finally wising up).
 

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No one has the right to enter any country without a proper visa and remain in that country without proper authorization. Why don't you try and brazen your way into any country without the proper documents (where required)? You will probably end up in jail.

There have been thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of trained and qualified people from third world countries who have had to jump through all kinds of hoops for several years before they could obtain a visa in the past. But today all you have to do is join a migrant caravan and thumb your nose at border patrol. Or get put on a leaky boat (without food and water) from North Africa and expect to be rescued by the Italians (who are finally wising up).
So what about children and young people among migrant families who ever since they can remember have been members of an underclass with few rights? and bear no responsibility whatsover for their plight? Making them obtain "pardons" for something for which they bear no moral responsibility is like being convicted for breathing; it's like taxing the rainfall. Just blaming migrants for everything won't wash.
 
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It seems that all 39 people in the lorry were Chinese nationals.