Huge Stratovolcano in Peru about to erupt?

[Scott Downey]

All the ejected rock looks just like this and some very huge boulders. You can see the gas pockets in the rock
What gets me is 7000 years have passed, and there is no soil. you can look down and it just rock after rock deeper down. These rocks are sharp, if you walked off trail, they can cut your open.



Video from the walk trail

New video by Scott Downey

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[Aunty Jane]

Thanks for confirming that even great scholars who have influenced our understanding of both Hebrew and Greek words have got it wrong as well.

Try G:4579.

I did…..and it confirms what I already wrote…..
That other word “seiō” means…..

1. “to shake, agitate, cause to tremble
   1. of men, to be thrown into a tremor, to quake for fear
   2. metaph. to agitate the mind”

The second word can be linked to the shaking of the earth as well as to humans….so what is your point?
Don’t people respond to earthquakes with fear and trembling?
It lists all the verses where this word is translated…..G4579…

Matt 27:51….
”And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook G4579 and the rocks were split.”
Did the earth shake or not?

Heb 12:26….
”And His voice shook the earth then, but now He has promised, saying, “YET ONCE MORE I WILL SHAKE G4579 NOT ONLY THE EARTH, BUT ALSO THE HEAVEN.”

Rev 6:13….
”and the stars of the sky fell to the earth, as a fig tree casts its unripe figs when shaken G4579 by a great wind.”

Where is the turmoil?

What pointless rabbit holes are you trying to lead people down? Are we in any doubt that turmoil is part of the end times prophesies?…earthquake and all.

Much ado about nothing….if you ask me….

 

[Jay Ross]

I did…..and it confirms what I already wrote…..
That other word “seiō” means…..

1. “to shake, agitate, cause to tremble
   1. of men, to be thrown into a tremor, to quake for fear
   2. metaph. to agitate the mind”

The second word can be linked to the shaking of the earth as well as to humans….so what is your point?
Don’t people respond to earthquakes with fear and trembling?
It lists all the verses where this word is translated…..G4579…

Matt 27:51….
”And behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth shook G4579 and the rocks were split.”
Did the earth shake or not?

Heb 12:26….
”And His voice shook the earth then, but now He has promised, saying, “YET ONCE MORE I WILL SHAKE G4579 NOT ONLY THE EARTH, BUT ALSO THE HEAVEN.”

Rev 6:13….
”and the stars of the sky fell to the earth, as a fig tree casts its unripe figs when shaken G4579 by a great wind.”

Where is the turmoil?

What pointless rabbit holes are you trying to lead people down? Are we in any doubt that turmoil is part of the end times prophesies?…earthquake and all.

Much ado about nothing….if you ask me….

You are entitled to your opinion, but I have never seen an earthquake in water, but I have seen a tempest cause turmoil in the waves created by the winds and the reflections of the wave that produce standing waves that will sink a boat as it passes a floundering boat between the chop in the waves. Now G:4578 is translated as earthquake in all 13 of the 14 occurrences where the Greek Root word is found in embedded within six Greek words.

My research suggests to me that the 14 occurrences of G:4578 makes more sense if it is translated as "Turmoil'" rather than "earthquake" or "tempest" which is the way the translators have decided to translate "Seismos." I do not mind being wrong in my understanding, but your rebuttal does not prove me wrong. when you posted this, - "What pointless rabbit holes are you trying to lead people down?" It seems to me that you are clutching a straws, in trying to prove your point.

In the Acts 16:26 verse it states this: - "26 Suddenly there was great turmoil {among the prison guard}, as the foundations of the prison were shaken; such that immediately all the doors were opened, and everyone’s chains were loosed."

Now if there had been a great earthquake as the text is suggesting, then more of the city of Phillipi would have been impacted than just the jail as the passage suggests. Also, if there had been an earthquake in Phillipi then a record of this earthquake would have been recorded in the history of Phillipi.

Perhaps, God has allowed the story to have been sealed up so that people would not understand what actually happened in this verse.

Please provide evidence that an actual great earthquake took place in Phillipi while Paul was in the jail.

 

[Rockerduck]

Isn't the Greek word for earthquake "seismós"?

 

[Aunty Jane]

You are entitled to your opinion, but I have never seen an earthquake in water, but I have seen a tempest cause turmoil in the waves created by the winds and the reflections of the wave that produce standing waves that will sink a boat as it passes a floundering boat between the chop in the waves.

Earthquakes under water cause tsunamis. There is no such thing as a water quake….as far as I know….

Now G:4578 is translated as earthquake in all 13 of the 14 occurrences where the Greek Root word is found in embedded within six Greek words.

My research suggests to me that the 14 occurrences of G:4578 makes more sense if it is translated as "Turmoil'" rather than "earthquake" or "tempest" which is the way the translators have decided to translate "Seismos." I do not mind being wrong in my understanding, but your rebuttal does not prove me wrong. when you posted this, - "What pointless rabbit holes are you trying to lead people down?" It seems to me that you are clutching a straws, in trying to prove your point.

I have no idea why you balk at the mention of earthquakes…why does it have to mean “turmoil”?
I have no idea what difference you think it makes?

In the Acts 16:26 verse it states this: - "26 Suddenly there was great turmoil {among the prison guard}, as the foundations of the prison were shaken; such that immediately all the doors were opened, and everyone’s chains were loosed."

The rest of that passage seems to favor an earthquake….
”About midnight, Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns of praise to God, and the prisoners were listening to them. Suddenly, there was such a huge earthquake that the very foundations of the prison were shaken. At once, all the doors flew open, and everyone’s chains were loosened. When the jailer awakened and saw all the doors of the prison wide open, he drew his sword, intending to kill himself, since he assumed that the prisoners had escaped. However, Paul shouted in a loud voice, “Do not harm yourself, for we are all here.”

Sounds like an earthquake to me…..perhaps it was from God and it only affected the jail? Who knows?
You can believe the Bible or not….

Now if there had been a great earth as the text is suggesting, then more of the city of Phillipi would have been impacted than just the jail as the passage suggests. Also, if there had been an earthquake in Phillipi then a record of this earthquake would have been recorded in the history of Phillipi.

Since the Bible does not say much more than that about the earthquake, I can assume that it was more about the jailer than the earthquake itself, because it was this event that prompted him to turn to Christ instead of taking his own life.
Can we make assumptions about what did or didn’t take place from secular history?

Perhaps, God has allowed the story to have been sealed up so that people would not understand what actually happened in this verse.

Please provide evidence that an actual great earthquake took place in Phillipi while Paul was in the jail.

Please provide evidence that it didn’t…..the Bible doesn’t seem to make it ambiguous….or even open to question…..why do you want to change what is written?

What about the earthquake the occurred when Jesus died? Bodies were flung out of their tombs in the cemetery….is there some reason why you need earthquakes not to be earthquakes?

 

[Jay Ross]

There is no such thing as a water quake….as far as I know….

I agree whole heartedly with your quoted statement.

Since the Bible does not say much more than that about the earthquake, I can assume that it was more about the jailer than the earthquake itself, because it was this event that prompted him to turn to Christ instead of taking his own life.
Can we make assumptions about what did or didn’t take place from secular history?

It was because of the jailer's turmoil that he accepted turning to Christ. If a prisoner escaped from a jail, the jailer and the guards would be killed for not stopping the prisoner's escape.

What about the earthquake the occurred when Jesus died? Bodies were flung out of their tombs in the cemetery….is there some reason why you need earthquakes not to be earthquakes?

You are right it is described in Matthew 27:50-53 with these words: -

Mat 27:50-53: - 50 When Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, He yielded up His spirit. 51 At that moment the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth quaked, and the rocks were split. 52The tombs broke open, and the bodies of many saints who had fallen asleep were raised. 53After Jesus’ resurrection, when they had come out of the tombs, they entered the holy city and appeared to many people.

Please note that the Greek Root word found in these verses describing the Earthquake is G:4579

In Verse 54 we find the Greek Root G:4578 used because the Centurian was describing the global events that took place when He said: -

Mat 27:54: - 54 When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the turmoil and all that had happened, they were terrified and said, “Truly this was the Son of God.”

It seems to me that you are missing the context of what is recorded by blinding accepting what your Sunday School book teach you. I on the other hand have meditated upon God's words and searching for His truth in those words rather than the assumed man generated understanding.

Goodbye

 

[quietthinker]

The law of cause and effect….the “last days” were to be plagued by earthquakes and these shifts in the tectonic plates could trigger massive earthquakes all over the world…..nature will be used to show wickedly proud humanity that their weapons are like water pistols compared to the arsenal that the Creator has.

We are so close to “the end”.…when God will “bring to ruin, those who ruin the earth”….(Rev 11:18)

God will bring ruin?? Do you really believe God causes these events?

 

[Scott Downey]

God will bring ruin?? Do you really believe God causes these events?

Well, is this not true about this creation?
For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope

For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.

Romans 8

18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of [f]corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. 23 Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body. 24 For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.

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What comes of all this pain is a new world, a new earth in which dwells righteousness. God will dwell with His people on the new earth, and there will be no more sorrow or pain.
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Revelation 21
Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, [a]John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said [b]to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”