Revelation 11-the measure of the temple

[VictoryinJesus]

The Lords supper is not the same as the Millennial meals we see as the disciples eat at the table during the reign of Jesus Christ.
There is no evidence of that.
Think of this, a sorrowful supper for the departing and missing Christ for now, but a new, glorious supper for the marriage in heaven and on earth?

Don’t you think it makes more sense?

Get what you are saying. But in Spirit to be “always rejoicing.” could dispute all day long as it is obvious we disagree. Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

 

[Truther]

Get what you are saying. But in Spirit to be “always rejoicing.” could dispute all day long as it is obvious we disagree. Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Well. The millennial reign is a time of Joy an rejoicing. Everyone with plenty. No sick or afflicted folks. No wars. No devils. Jesus ruling on the throne over the earth. Same with the marriage supper of the lamb.

Party mode

 

[Truther]

LOL, NO, listen up 1Cor 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
so he is reigning now as we speak, it's not untill all his enemies under his feet. supportive scripture,
Ps 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool".

that's what happening right now.

I see you didn't answer my Question. the Ancient of days in Daniel 7 who sits is this the Father yes or no?.

I'll be looking for that answer.

PICJAG.

Are you saying we are in the millennial reign of Christ?

Yes or no?

You are proposing it, but are you absolutely sure?

 

[101G]

Well. The millennial reign is a time of Joy an rejoicing. Everyone with plenty. No sick or afflicted folks. No wars. No devils. Jesus ruling on the throne over the earth. Same with the marriage supper of the lamb.

Party mode

LOL oh well
Good day, got to catch up on some news... my,my,my.

PICJAG.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Jesus ruling on the throne over the earth.

Colossians 3:14-15 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. [15] And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

Galatians 6:16-17 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. [17] From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

 

[Truther]

Colossians 3:14-15 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. [15] And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.

Galatians 6:16-17 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. [17] From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.

Do you think we are in the millennial reign or there is no millennial reign?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Do you think we are in the millennial reign or there is no millennial reign?

I don’t know. if He reigns in your heart Now...then does it matter, as His reign over you is already?

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Do you think we are in the millennial reign or there is no millennial reign?

Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

 

[Truther]

Romans 5:21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)

Are we in the millennial reign?

 

[Truther]

I don’t know. if He reigns in your heart Now...then does it matter, as His reign over you is already?

It matters a lot.

The millennial reign of Jesus is all about his victory over the devil for 1000 years, especially since the devil infected His perfect work.
A vast amount of the OT prophecies are about this reign.
It is a huge deal to God and should be to us.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

It matters a lot.

The millennial reign of Jesus is all about his victory over the devil for 1000 years, especially since the devil infected His perfect work.
A vast amount of the OT prophecies are about this reign.
It is a huge deal to God and should be to us.

no I mean who is right. I’m not against you. We want the same thing I think. Going to sleep. Hopefully I’ll have a clearer answer in the morning. Your question has always been a difficult one for me as I’m not certain. To me, He reigns. But then what I see with my eyes says differently. But I’m definitely not looking for literal thrones with men sitting on them ruling.

 

[Truther]

no I mean who is right. I’m not against you. We want the same thing I think. Going to sleep. Hopefully I’ll have a clearer answer in the morning. Your question has always been a difficult one for me as I’m not certain. To me, He reigns. But then what I see with my eyes says differently. But I’m definitely not looking for literal thrones with men sitting on them ruling.

Expect thrones. Believe the Lord Jesus. He will also reign from a temple that He, Himself will make in Jerusalem.
I can show you in scripture some awesome stuff you will see during His reign on earth.
When Rev said “come quickly”, it means to reign, not kill and judge everyone.

 

[Davy]

John 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.


John 7:37-38 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. [38] He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

And all that is our Lord Jesus' metaphor for the River in God's Garden of Eden that was once upon this earth per Genesis 2 and fed four other rivers upon the earth, but will return according to Revelation 22 and Ezekiel 47. Per Genesis 2, two of those rivers which God's River in Eden fed are still traceable on earth today. They are the Euphrates and the Hiddikel (or Tigris), both in today's country of Iraq.

Christ's Salvation has substance, and the getting away from that Truth as shown in God's Word is how many men in the pulpits have instead substituted God's Truth with their own truth, a la Ezekiel 13.

 

[Waiting on him]

And all that is our Lord Jesus' metaphor for the River in God's Garden of Eden that was once upon this earth per Genesis 2 and fed four other rivers upon the earth, but will return according to Revelation 22 and Ezekiel 47. Per Genesis 2, two of those rivers which God's River in Eden fed are still traceable on earth today. They are the Euphrates and the Hiddikel (or Tigris), both in today's country of Iraq.

Christ's Salvation has substance, and the getting away from that Truth as shown in God's Word is how many men in the pulpits have instead substituted God's Truth with their own truth, a la Ezekiel 13.

John 7:38 KJV
[38] He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.


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[Waiting on him]

I don’t know. if He reigns in your heart Now...then does it matter, as His reign over you is already?

Matthew 25:23 KJV
[23] His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord.


1 John 1:4 KJV
[4] And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.


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[Earburner]

I think our points missed each other.

Someone asks if the 1000 years are literal years.

I showed 1000 years spoken of 6 times in the passage.

This means 1000 years, not whatever years.

The term "a thousand years" is in reference to that vague time period, when Jesus revealed that He did not know the day of His return, but the Father only.
If you listen to the words, "with the Lord, one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day" 2 Peter 3:7-8, you will find that it is connected to God's longsuffering for our repentance and salvation, aka the Age of God's Grace, which is NOW, ever since Pentecost.

"A thousand years" is just colorful way of saying for a long period of time, having no desgnated end, until people on the earth FAIL to believe "that God is". Hebrew 11:6
For without faith in God, no one can come to repentance. Therefore, In that day, then shall the end come-2 Thes. 2:3, and for no other reason.

That is what Jesus did know about His return!
He questioned if he would find faith on the earth, when He returns Luke 18:8.
The answer is NO!
Apart from His sealed Saints, alive at that time, all others will have "fallen away"- 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

And all that is our Lord Jesus' metaphor for the River in God's Garden of Eden that was once upon this earth per Genesis 2 and fed four other rivers upon the earth, but will return according to Revelation 22 and Ezekiel 47. Per Genesis 2, two of those rivers which God's River in Eden fed are still traceable on earth today. They are the Euphrates and the Hiddikel (or Tigris), both in today's country of Iraq.

Christ's Salvation has substance, and the getting away from that Truth as shown in God's Word is how many men in the pulpits have instead substituted God's Truth with their own truth, a la Ezekiel 13.

Davy, when He stood and said to come drink of Him and you will never thirst again...the metaphor so you say the Lord contrasted with water (temporal) a man drinks of and thirst again. John 4:13-14 Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: [14] But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

Two waters He shows ...which are you speaking of? The kind where a man drinks and thirst again. Or the River of Life the Lord gives? Are you really comparing the two and making them equal?

 

[Earburner]

I believe you missed my point, in His preincarnate state is when he sits in Daniel 7. and his Glorified state after his resurrection in Revelation 1. now compare his preincarnate state, and his glorified state after his resurrection. this is bared out in Revelation chapter 5.

see what I saying now?

PICJAG.

Dan.7 [ 22 ] Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Q. When did the saints possess the KoG?
A. Luke 12[32] Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
Daniel 7:22 was fulfilled on the Day of Pentecost.

In the day Jesus (the Light of the world) Ascended into Heaven, we who are born again, are NOW the light of the world, and do carry forth to the world His judgmemt (John 3:18), as ambassadors for God/Christ in His stead. Matthew 5:14; 2 Cor. 5:20

 

[Earburner]

1st ERROR, the return in Daniel is his asenction from Earth in Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight". there is no other return.

#2. his Kingdom reign began on Pentecost.

PICJAG.

I agree to #2, but disagree to #1.
I may be mistaken, but in all of Daniel 7 there is no mention of Christ's return into Heaven.
Verse 27 speaks of His first appearance and the Day of Pentecost, when the KoG was given to the saints.

"There is no other return" ??
Why are neglecting to speak of 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10?

 

[Earburner]

As Jesus bodily ascended into Heaven, He shall return in LIKE manner.