Why do we need priests?

[marksman]

Interesting.
Then, the following Bible and Linguistics Lesson should just be nothing more than stuff you ALREADY know . . .

As for your question - here is what it means:
This is my body
τοῦτο ἐστιν τὸ σῶμ

This, these (τοῦτο )
Is, to be, to exist (ἐστιν)
My, this, that, these (τὸ)
Body both of men or animals (σῶμ)

In John 6, Jesus stated in NO uncertain terms: “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.”

Interestingly enough - the usual Greek word used for human eating is “phagon”. However, this is not the word used in these passages. John uses the word, “trogon”, which means, to munch or to gnaw - like an animal rips apart his food. Jesus was again using hyperbole as he often did to drive his point across so that the crowd would understand that he was NOT speaking metaphorically. He meant what he said.

Them's the Greek facts . . .
Just as the Passover Lamb was to be eaten, it is also true for the Lamb of God.

How come that the wafer tastes like a wafer and not flesh if what you say is true?

 

[marksman]

WRONG.

I don't blame Catholic Church for ignorant Catholics - NOR do I blame Proestant sects for ignorant Protestants.

Individials are responsible for what they choose to know.
As a teacher - YOU should know this . . .

Wrong again. A good teacher will ALWAYS teach in such a fashion that the student knows what you want them to know.

 

[marksman]

Look, if you can't accept the fact that you have been proven wrong about Matt. 23:8-9, then there's not much else I can do for you.

Arrogant in the extreme. The fact is you cannot do ANYTHING for me because I refuse to give up the salvation I have for the salvation that I might get if I AM A CATHOLIC.

 

[marksman]

I haven't rejected anythin He taught.
I'm not Protestant.

That is obvious because if you were you would not be telling us all how wrong we are and how right you are.

 

[marksman]

Only when you prove me wrong . . .
CAN you do that??

A person who believes he is always right and everyone else is always wrong as you do cannot be taught anything. it is called arrogance and pride.

 

[BreadOfLife]

How come that the wafer tastes like a wafer and not flesh if what you say is true?

It is Christ in the appearance of bread and wine.

Again, YOU don't think God id capable of this??

 

[BreadOfLife]

Wrong again. A good teacher will ALWAYS teach in such a fashion that the student knows what you want them to know.

As a teacher, YOU should know that this is a FALSE statement - or ALL of your students would get "A's".

Unfortunately, they don't . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

That is obvious because if you were you would not be telling us all how wrong we are and how right you are.

A person who believes he is always right and everyone else is always wrong as you do cannot be taught anything. it is called arrogance and pride.

I'm only "right" because I have chosen to submit to the Authority of Christ's Church - instead of rejecting it as YOU have . . .

 

[Marymog]

I know it is hard for you to understand but what I don't believe is the mumbo jumbo put out by the catholic church. I said I have worked in the catholic system and not ONCE has the wine turned into blood.

Well, that "mumbo jumbo" is taught by Protestants ALSO and that "mumbo jumbo" has been taught for 2,000 years.

Jesus and Paul said it is but you say it isn't. Whom should I believe?

 

[Marymog]

Nope! I have no desire to engage in a blood-drinking fest, that God (remember Him?) that God so soundly condemns!!

Happy Vampire Day!

Fascinating....you said you participate in communion but you don't believe it is His body and blood like he and Paul said it was. If God condemns it why did Jesus say This IS my blood. Drink of it....?

 

[Philip James]

How come that the wafer tastes like a wafer and not flesh if

Dear marksman,

Are you going to listen to your flesh, or to your Lord?


It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

And what are those words again?

Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.

For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.

Peace be with you!

 

[marksman]

Dear marksman,

Are you going to listen to your flesh, or to your Lord?


It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.

And what are those words again?

Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.

For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.

Peace be with you!

Question. Where do you get Jesus blood from to drink and where do you get his flesh from to eat?

 

[marksman]

Well, that "mumbo jumbo" is taught by Protestants ALSO and that "mumbo jumbo" has been taught for 2,000 years.

Jesus and Paul said it is but you say it isn't. Whom should I believe?

Wrong. The reformation began with Martin Luther's 95 theses. he lived from 1483 - 1546 so that it means it is approx 500 years old not 2,000.

 

[marksman]

I'm only "right" because I have chosen to submit to the Authority of Christ's Church - instead of rejecting it as YOU have . . .

Sorry mate but you have got that wrong. You have submitted to the authority of the Roman Catholic Church. And that is no more Christ's church than the man in the moon.

I submit to the authority of God and his word. That is much safer and more real.

 

[marksman]

As a teacher, YOU should know that this is a FALSE statement - or ALL of your students would get "A's".

Unfortunately, they don't . . .

As a teacher that is a true statement. It doesn't mean that they will all get As.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Sorry mate but you have got that wrong. You have submitted to the authority of the Roman Catholic Church. And that is no more Christ's church than the man in the moon.

I submit to the authority of God and his word. That is much safer and more real.

Christ says that we must submit to His CHURCH as our final earthly Authority (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, John 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).
So YOU are disobeying Him.

Oh, and by the way - NONE of your Protestant sects were even around until the 16th century, whereas the Catholic Church has been here since the FIRST century.

 

[BreadOfLife]

As a teacher that is a true statement. It doesn't mean that they will all get As.

No - it's NOT a true statement that ALL of your students will learn what YOU want them to learn.
This is an age-old issue.

Just as there are ignorant and lazy students in every class - there are ignorant and lazy people sitting in the pews of EVERY church.

 

[Philip James]

Question. Where do you get Jesus blood from to drink and where do you get his flesh from to eat?

Answer:

While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, "Take and eat; this is my body."

Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you,

for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins

Peace be with you!

 

[marksman]

Answer:

While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, "Take and eat; this is my body."

Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you,

for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins

Peace be with you!

Where do YOU get his blood and flesh from? Note YOU???

 

[marksman]

No - it's NOT a true statement that ALL of your students will learn what YOU want them to learn.
This is an age-old issue.

Just as there are ignorant and lazy students in every class - there are ignorant and lazy people sitting in the pews of EVERY church.

If it is not a true statement, why did you say it?