How to be a man in Christ

[Pearl]

We often see threads about how to be a woman in Christ but I've never know anyone to start one about being a man in Christ.

The scriptures have a few things to say about that but so many men whizz past that and just concentrate on the woman's role.

Now as I see it men need to take note of what the bible says they should be and how they should be treating the women.

 

[Windmillcharge]

being a man in Christ

In a nutshell he/I should imitate Jesus, being caring, compassionate, willing to be self sacrificial for those I love, knowledgeable about Christianity, a good example of how to behave and a benevolent authoritarian.

We do not realise just how important a Father's influence is.
The stats show that if Dad attends church third of his children will also attend.
If Dad doesn't and Mum does only 2% will attend church.

 

[Joseph77]

Now as I see it men need to take note of what the bible says they should be and how they should be treating the women.

Motive ? (purpose? Desired results?)

 

[Pearl]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wild-at-Heart-John-Eldredge/dp/1589263693
Men and women should read this book.

 

[Joseph77]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Wild-at-Heart-John-Eldredge/dp/1589263693
Men and women should read this book.

Why?
What if it is sinful, misleading, and wrong ?

 

[Pearl]

Why?
What if it is sinful, misleading, and wrong ?

Don't be ridiculous. You could say that about anything. We have the discernment given by the Holy Spirit.

Sounds like you are another troll.

 

[Pearl]

'Wild at Heart' is a wonderful representation of what it means to be a man in Christ. If Christian men were like this then the church would be a better place.

 

[Joseph77]

Don't be ridiculous. You could say that about anything. We have the discernment given by the Holy Spirit..

So you are undiscerning today.... I was naturally, as a permanent disciple of Jesus, seeking just such clarification.
Most things are sinful, misleading and wrong,
so to ask that about something, or even to state that once it is known,
is perfectly in line with all Scripture as REVEALED BY GOD HIMSELF (or do you think SCRIPTURE is not God's Revelation?)

 

[Joseph77]

'Wild at Heart' is a wonderful representation of what it means to be a man in Christ. If Christian men were like this then the church would be a better place.

It has not made you better, apparently, from your own posts revealing your own ideas.
Perhaps it is a 'good read'....
But you have not given evidence of that so far.

 

[Dcopymope]

In a nutshell he/I should imitate Jesus, being caring, compassionate, willing to be self sacrificial for those I love, knowledgeable about Christianity, a good example of how to behave and a benevolent authoritarian.

We do not realise just how important a Father's influence is.
The stats show that if Dad attends church third of his children will also attend.
If Dad doesn't and Mum does only 2% will attend church.

Nevermind church, how about the crime stats showing that most of them came from single mother households? This is the far bigger issue as far as the lack of a responsible father in the house is concerned and how it affects society as a whole.

 

[Waiting on him]

We often see threads about how to be a woman in Christ but I've never know anyone to start one about being a man in Christ.

The scriptures have a few things to say about that but so many men whizz past that and just concentrate on the woman's role.

Now as I see it men need to take note of what the bible says they should be and how they should be treating the women.

My great uncle Mac told me some years ago that the women of the home 100 years ago would wake before the men to feed the home clean up after breakfast as the men went to the field, and join them in the field to work leaving the field before the men to prepare dinner. When everyone was fed and settled they washed and mended clothing saw to the children and worked into the night.

 

[Pearl]

My great uncle Mac told me some years ago that the women of the home 100 years ago would wake before the men to feed the home clean up after breakfast as the men went to the field, and join them in the field to work leaving the field before the men to prepare dinner. When everyone was fed and settled they washed and mended clothing saw to the children and worked into the night.

That was then, and even during my childhood my mother was a lot like that. It was the norm for most women. But the world turns and things change but not always for the worse. My husband wants a companion not a housekeeper/slave.

 

[Windmillcharge]

Nevermind church,

Except if they have a father who never takes them to church, so they never hear the gospel what point is there in having a father.

Why do you think Jesus was so cross about those who cause children to go astray, that is not to learn of him.
Better if they hung a millstone about there neck and this themselves into the sea.

 

[Windmillcharge]

Jk

My great uncle Mac told me some years ago that the women of the home 100 years ago would wake before the men to feed the home clean up after breakfast as the men went to the field, and join them in the field to work leaving the field before the men to prepare dinner. When everyone was fed and settled they washed and mended clothing saw to the children and worked into the night.

Never mind a hundred years ago. The contraceptive pill is what helpped change society, that and access for employees.
With married women not getting pregnant once married they could delay having children, pay for a better home etc etc more women in the work place having carears changed society.

It used to be that most jobs were hard physical jobs that most women couldn't do, this plus getting pregnant after marriage limited there work opportunities.

A hundred years ago women worked in shops or in family business, they were dependant on there husband financial and they looked after him.

Life was tough very tough if you were a widow.
No convenience foods, veg meat bought fresh, prepared and cooked at home, laundry done by hand, cleaning done by hand.
It didn't help that legal a wife belonged to her husband.

 

[Dcopymope]

Except if they have a father who never takes them to church, so they never hear the gospel what point is there in having a father.

Why do you think Jesus was so cross about those who cause children to go astray, that is not to learn of him.
Better if they hung a millstone about there neck and this themselves into the sea.

I believe the actual verse you are referring to regarding a mans duty to provide for his family is from Paul, which really has nothing to do with the faith in itself, its just what men are supposed to do, common sense.

(1 Timothy 5:8) "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."

So you are asking whats the point of having a father? Look around you, and see the decay that has occurred ever since the breakdown of the family unit began over fifty years ago. The foundation of any nation or tribe is the family unit. When the family unit goes, its only a matter before the nation or tribe at large goes. That's why it was Satan's number one target for so long, because once the family unit is gone, there is nothing left for a man to fight for or look after but himself, hence why we now have this philosophy called mgtow, short for 'men going their own way'. This is well understood throughout history with the eventual collapse of nations and empires always being preceded by the disenfranchisement of men within the family. A house divided against itself cannot stand. Now women have all the authority within the family without the responsibility that comes with it, while men are still expected to uphold the responsibilities of a man within a traditional relationship without the authority of one, which is slavery by definition.

 

[Windmillcharge]

believe the actual verse you are referring

I am referring only to the ultimate role of a Father, which is to train his children to follow Jesus.

Yes society is falling to pieces, but that is because society has rejected Jesus.
It is only by turning back o him that society will realise it's mistake.

There is plenty of statistical, sociological, and other studies that show the importance of chastity, stability in marriage of the dangers of multiple sexual partners etc etc etc.
When did you see a soap that plot was about the importance of chastity,or hear a lecture or see a science program on how multiple sexual partners harms the ability to form a permanent partnership?
Society doesn't want to hear this message because it is a spiritual fight.

 

[Heart2Soul]

That was then, and even during my childhood my mother was a lot like that. It was the norm for most women. But the world turns and things change but not always for the worse. My husband wants a companion not a housekeeper/slave.

WWII created a huge vacancy in the factories and our government asked the women to go to work in them and keep producing weapons and materials needed for war. So many men died and the wives were left to raise their kids on her own so she stayed working to feed her children. It had nothing to do with women rebelling against their role in the marriage...it was out of necessity.
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[Joseph77]

That was then, and even during my childhood my mother was a lot like that. It was the norm for most women. But the world turns and things change but not always for the worse. My husband wants a companion not a housekeeper/slave.

COOL - someone suitable to him, as God's Word makes clear.

btw, in the last six thousand years, the Ekklesia (set apart ones, set apart by God, for Himself, His Own People)

did not look down upon housekeepers or slaves - rather, they were and are treated well just as other people, without prejudicial notions.

Oh, society is wicked, and governments are sinful, so those things do not have the benefit of living God's Way, no , not at all, (with few exceptions as God states and as God designed, as written in His Word)...

God's People, learning from Him, living His Way, are different , set apart, from society and from this world's governmental ways....

Yes, God's People , while few, live as God Says.

 

[Joseph77]

It had nothing to do with women rebelling against their role in the marriage...it was out of necessity.

The war was started by lies, continued by lies, and designed by the enemy, permitted by God, to break up families.
It was before the war started that the enemy encouraged women's lib type thoughts and directions, and led to disaster also.

 

[Heart2Soul]

The war was started by lies, continued by lies, and designed by the enemy, permitted by God, to break up families.
It was before the war started that the enemy encouraged women's lib type thoughts and directions, and led to disaster also.

Proverbs 31 A Virtuous Woman....
10 Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.

11 The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

12 She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

13 She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands....

14 She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.

15 She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.

16 She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.

17 She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.

18 She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.

19 She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.

20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

21 She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.

22 She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.

23 Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.

24 She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.

25 Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.

26 She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.

27 She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.

28 Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.

29 Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

30 Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised.

31 Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.


This is in the OT....women bear much of the burden of running a household......the destruction of the family is indeed part of Satan's plan....but how does he put that plan into action? Most divorces are caused by adultery, abuse, finances, and addictions.

But God promises to restore the family, the church, relationships.....Hallelujah!