Covid-19 Hoax !

[Yehren]

Last I checked. You apparently know or can figure out how to check.

Yep. Show us what you have.

 

[Joseph77]

Oh my - lions AND tigers AND bears .....

searching for 20,000 die every year from aspirin (as expected, as seen for years) turned up a lot more than expected, including other things...

Over 80,000 Americans Died of Flu Last Winter, Highest Toll in Years

 

[Joseph77]

Yep. Show us what you have.

Your a little slow catching on, but there's a little help....

 

[Joseph77]

"But the new study, published in The Lancet, suggests the danger increases far more sharply with age than was thought. Prof Peter Rothwell, lead author from the University of Oxford said aspirin was causing around 20,000 bleeds annually - and causing at least 3,000 deaths.Jun 13, 2017"

 

[Yehren]

Joseph77 said: ↑
Every year some 20k die from taking aspirin, or something in that category.

Sounds like a testable claim... (Yehren checks)

...Death rate attributed to NSAID/aspirin use was between 21.0 and 24.8 cases/million people, respectively, or 15.3 deaths/100,000 NSAID/aspirin users.

About 0.00153%. Or 8184 deaths for 330,000,000 people.

They did not have to. But the doctor or someone told them to.

I would think that the vast majority of people taking aspirin don't do it by prescription. Do you have data showing otherwise?

Your a little slow catching on, but there's a little help....

...but no data, um? Pretty much what we expected.

 

[Yehren]

"But the new study, published in The Lancet, suggests the danger increases far more sharply with age than was thought. Prof Peter Rothwell, lead author from the University of Oxford said aspirin was causing around 20,000 bleeds annually - and causing at least 3,000 deaths.Jun 13, 2017"

Lancet is the UK medical journal. (Yehren checks) Yep. It's numbers for the UK. And 3,000 deaths is pretty close to the numbers for the US; your claim of 20,000 deaths annually remains unsupported.

Which, as you know the U.S. mortality rate for aspirin use is about 0.00153%, a fraction of one percent.

 

[Joseph77]

Your perniciousness is noted.

QUOTE ME:

your claim of 20,000 deaths annually remains unsupported.

 

[Yehren]

I don't think you know what that word means, either. I've been called a lot of things, but never "subtle", harmful or not.

 

[Pearl]

Hi
Is anybody being taken in by the Covid -19 hoax. Does anyone really understand what's happning.

Would Like to hear your views.

My view: I don't believe that this is a hoax. It's real and people are dying. How can you even think it's a hoax?

 

[Joseph77]

I can't speak about your ignorance here.

You did not quote me though.

I don't think you know what that word means, either. I've been called a lot of things, but never "subtle", harmful or not.

 

[Yehren]

I can't speak about your ignorance here.

Or much of anything else, it seems. When you do find some data, come on back and take part in the discussion.

 

[Joseph77]

Or much of anything else, it seems. When you do find some data, come on back and take part in the discussion.

More data ? I'm still waiting on the quote you said I said

the one I did not say,

and asked you to provide any evidence that you did not lie. (i.e. quote me)

 

[TruthCrusades]

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[Yehren]

When you do find some data, come on back and take part in the discussion.

More data ? I'm still waiting on the quote you said I said

the one I did not say,

Let's see your data for the one you did say:

So? Every year some 20k die from taking aspirin, or something in that category.

They did not have to. But the doctor or someone told them to.

What do you have? As you learned, the data doesn't support your claim.

Lancet is the UK medical journal. (Yehren checks) Yep. It's numbers for the UK. And 3,000 deaths is pretty close to the numbers for the US; your claim of 20,000 deaths annually remains unsupported.

Which, as you know the U.S. mortality rate for aspirin use is about 0.00153%, a fraction of one percent.

 

[Joseph77]

As you learned, the data doesn't support your claim.

The data entirely supports what I posted - it was not a "claim" as if I was anything special -

it was and remains a statement observed in the last ten or twenty years or more.

You , on the other hand, have continued to argue against the truth, to try to 'prove' the truth is false,

to not see the trends, as revealed first in God's Word, then also confirmed in the sites of the ama, cdc, and fda.

 

[Joseph77]

A little help for that one having trouble seeing truth.

Aspirin is a nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug (NSAID). NSAIDs are a class of drugs. Other NSAIDs include ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin) and naproxen (Aleve, Naprosyn). ..
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What is the most dangerous Nsaid?
In patients taking coxibs, diclofenac, and higher-dose ibuprofen, these effects cause an excess risk of 7–9 non-fatal and 2 fatal cardiovascular events per 1000 patients per year. All NSAIDs double the risk of hospitalisation due to heart failure.
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How many people die annually from ibuprofen?
It has been known for some time that these drugs — called nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, or NSAIDs — have serious side effects and are a major cause of drug-induced injury. They are estimated to cause at least 16,000 deaths per year and send 100,000 people to the emergency room in the U.S.Jul 27, 2015

 

[Yehren]

Well, we're moving away from aspirin now. For reasons that are obvious.

 

[Joseph77]

Do I have to quote my first post for you , or can you do it as requested ?

You mis-spoke a lot now..... want to get back on track ?

Well, we're moving away from aspirin now. For reasons that are obvious.

 

[Stranger]

"They?" so you're not just scared, you're paranoid and scared. Instead of working on "they", find a source that actually has some idea.

The current mortality rate of around 3.8 or so, will surely be lower. As you know, I said I'd be very surprised if it was higher than 3.0 or lower than 0.8 percent. That's still about ten times as deadly as influenza normally is.



Were you bullied as a kid, or something?



Believing all "they" tell you, is what got you messed up. There's lots of information on the virus and on related viruses for which we can make good estimates. I offered someone else to wager a dozen of the world's best chocolate chip cookies that the mortality rate would end up between the two numbers I mentioned above. You want to make that wager? You really have no idea or even any idea where to look to make a good estimate, do you?

As long as you let "them" do your thinking for you, you're going to be easy to fool.



So why are you endorsing federal control over the states? You're contradicting yourself.



Just skeptical. I'm inclined to look up things when I hear claims. You should do it, too. Would have saved you a lot of embarrassment here. And here's one you should remember:
Whenever someone tells you something you really, really want to believe, that's the time you need to be most skeptical. Because that's when you are easiest to fool. Don't get mad; get smart. Go check on this stuff for yourself.



I was thinking the 30,000 or so dead so far, with many more to come. But I guess it's a matter of what you value.



Trump sensed an opportunity to grab some power, but the governors told him to stuff it. And he backed down quickly. So freedom won, again.

Trump took you by the hand, patted you on the back, and said "everything is fine, just let me have all the power, and I'll take care of you."

Fortunately, most Americans didn't buy that story.

Again, you're the one believing the Corona is as deadly as they claim. Not me. I'm not worried about it at all. I do worry what the government, governments, will do with this new found power.

See, you believe the numbers they are giving you. You're a good boy.

No, I don't believe what is being reported as to the numbers of Corona victims. You do. Wager cookies?....good boy. How about marbles? No I'm not interested in wagering.

I don't endorse Federal control over the states.

Actually you're the one in the arena of being fooled. When the time comes for the mark of the beast to be issued, the anti-christ is not going to stand up and say I am the anti-christ, and now you must deny Christ and take my mark. No, it is going to move with the natural flow of human history. An event, a situation will occur that government must address. Government, the man, will step in, with a solution. It will be all 'good' and for the betterment of mankind. Unity and peace will be it's result. And you or those like you will be the good boy.

Stranger

 

[Joseph77]

Well, we're moving away from aspirin now. For reasons that are obvious.

Do I have to quote my first post for you , or can you do it as requested ?

You mis-spoke a lot now..... want to get back on track ?

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Yehren said: ↑
As of today, over 35,000 Americans have died from contracting COVID-19 virus in the United States.
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"So? Every year some 20k die from taking aspirin, or something in that category.

They did not have to. But the doctor or someone told them to."
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