Covid-19: The White Horse

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Seriously, so the last days STARTED 2000 years ago ......and you are believing 100% that the first seal...is the Covid 19 ... please remember that coronvirus is the umbrella word for EVERY cold and flu virus that has ever been infecting people ......So using ‘ the crown ‘ as reference to this particular strain as being linked to white horse and the rider wearing a Crown .......is somewhat ‘ out of sinc ‘ because colds and flu have been around for some considerable time !!!!!!!
But you are personally convinced it is true................interesting !!!! Think you need to test a few things before you post them HIH, it’s not helping your credibility x
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Rita, no common cold has ever caused the economies of the entire world to shut down, and nowhere is it being argued that Covid-19 is not a corona virus.

What in your above post proves Covid-19 does not and cannot apply to Revelations 6:1-2?
 
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Greetings, Marks.

He's tracing the etymology through toxikos, of the same family. Both are defined using the word "archery" on occasions, with the latter being used more specifically of "poison used to smear arrows with." (Liddell-Scott, P.1805).

toxic | Origin and meaning of toxic by Online Etymology Dictionary


Psalm 127:1-5 Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. [2] It is vain for you to rise up early, to sit up late, to eat the bread of sorrows: for so he giveth his beloved sleep. [3] Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord : and the fruit of the womb is his reward. [4] As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. [5] Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

Lamentations 3:12-22 He hath bent his bow, and set me as a mark for the arrow. [13] He hath caused the arrows of his quiver to enter into my reins. [14] I was a derision to all my people; and their song all the day. [15] He hath filled me with bitterness, he hath made me drunken with wormwood. [16] He hath also broken my teeth with gravel stones, he hath covered me with ashes. [17] And thou hast removed my soul far off from peace: I forgat prosperity. [18] And I said, My strength and my hope is perished from the Lord : [19] Remembering mine affliction and my misery, the wormwood and the gall. [20] My soul hath them still in remembrance, and is humbled in me. [21] This I recall to my mind, therefore have I hope. [22] It is of the Lord's mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not.

Matthew 27:34 They gave him vinegar to drink mingled with gall: and when he had tasted thereof, he would not drink.


(1) Heb. mererah, meaning "bitterness" ( Job 16:13); i.e., the bile secreted in the liver. This word is also used of the poison of asps ( 20:14), and of the vitals, the seat of life (25).
Heb. rosh. In Deuteronomy 32:33and Job 20:16it denotes the poison of serpents. myrrh

Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
 

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we are now living in the days when the first seal of Revelation 6:1-2 has been broken, and the White Horse has now been released upon the earth.

Revelation 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

Matthew 10:34-35 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. [35] For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.
 
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Rita, no common cold has ever caused the economies of the entire world to shut down, and nowhere is it being argued that Covid-19 is not a corona virus.

What in your above post proves Covid-19 does not and cannot apply to Revelations 6:1-2?

I have no doubt that what the riders represent are things that are going to impact, but it’s the fact that the ‘ crown ‘ is automatically linked to ‘ coronvirus ‘ ....and the starting point for the seals.........
The white horse and rider represent conquest, and sovereignty .......so the crown can represent something completely different ....
This rider is ‘ bent on conguest ‘ ....that is his desire .........to win ,his aim is to win .........
What creates all the strife in the world, all the power struggles....this horse is paving the way for what follows .......the red rider .....the one that has the power to take peace from the world ........his weapon is much larger than a bow ( incidentally why doesn’t it mention an arrow !! )
I guess it depends on where you see the last days with regards to when this revelation was given.
I simply cannot believe that the seals are only just being opened......and it’s too much of a vague connection to the virus .......
This is just my opinion HIH, but to make such a bold claim that you believe it totally is somewhat of a risk.
You cannot boldly put your name to something on a public forum and not come under some scrutiny x
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Revelation 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

Hi, Victory.

If you read the link to the other forum provided in the OP, I actually make reference to the 2nd Horsemen, and to a dream another member posted about seeing it emerge in the sky after which New York City suffers great explosions. I believe Islamic extremism and Jihad is again going to arise in great strength beginning next year, and it will only be a matter of time before terrorist attacks, and by that I mean major ones, occur in the United States.

As for the dream, I can't vouch for it yet, but I do believe the red horse of warfare is going to follow this one.

God bless.
 

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it’s the fact that the ‘ crown ‘ is automatically linked to ‘ coronvirus ‘ ....and the starting point for the seals........

1 Corinthians 9:25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible.


‘Coronavirus’ with ‘crown’ seeing how we are able to twist just about anything into something. Makes me question if there is any point to reading the word as I could twist it to say whatever I want it to say.
 

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Hi, Victory.

If you read the link to the other forum provided in the OP, I actually make reference to the 2nd Horsemen, and to a dream another member posted about seeing it emerge in the sky after which New York City suffers great explosions. I believe Islamic extremism and Jihad is again going to arise in great strength beginning next year, and it will only be a matter of time before terrorist attacks, and by that I mean major ones, occur in the United States.

As for the dream, I can't vouch for it yet, but I do believe the red horse of warfare is going to follow this one.

God bless.

Okay. Completely overlooked that He told them Luke 19:42-44 Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes. [43] For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side, [44] And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

Maybe I’m completely confused but what sword is given to take peace from the earth? And where does one find peace. They are shouting “peace, peace” with no escape.
1 Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Nowhere in the world can peace be found. Not in things of this world. Yet, are you saying there is peace of the world to be taken away? If so it is a false peace being taken...what sword is given to take peace from the earth?
 

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You cannot boldly put your name to something on a public forum and not come under some scrutiny x
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Quite alright, Rita. I don't mind the scrutiny at all. It's healthy.

One thing which is nearly always the case with me is that I have a ton of things in my head that I'm not communicating. I don't do it on purpose to withhold. I do it simply because if I don't narrow topics down to a specific focus I end up being the equivalent of a chatterbox and an online nuisance. No one likes someone who continually marathon posts, and no one reads their stuff either. Ask Amadeus. We both were commenting once on if anyone really cares if someone posts 15 or more 1,000 word posts. It's a waste of everyone's time. People want to read a post, develop a coherent answer of what they think, and then participate.

Regarding this issue, I know of numerous other visions that likewise predicted a great economic crash would precede the start of the end-times proper. But they are very dark.... and I hesitate to discuss all that right now.

But my apologies if I ever suggested my posts are not open to scrutiny. It's most certainly not a problem with me : )

God bless, and thanks for the post.
 
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Different sword, different context ; )

Different sword how? Can you explain different how? Not this sword?

Luke 2:34-35 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against; [35] (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.


1 Timothy 6:9-10 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. [10] For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

So not the double-edged sword then? What sword do you mean then? A literal sword or something else?
 

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He does say toxon is a bow.

Transcript: "The Greek word used here for bow is toxon, which is where we get the English words 'toxic' and 'toxin.' This bow is not an ordinary bow. This bow is a biological weapon. It is used for firing poisoned arrows. So the rider of the white horse has a crown, and he has a bow that fires poison arrows."
Again, that's defining the previous Greek word according to it's derivatives in other languages, and that's not real. The word has it's own meaning.

This is from Genesis 9:13

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To toxon mou = my bow = that would be the rainbow, wouldn't it? Toxon, from it's curve shape, same as the arrow shooter. This is the meaning of the word in Greek.

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Seriously, so the last days STARTED 2000 years ago ......and you are believing 100% that the first seal...is the Covid 19 ... please remember that coronvirus is the umbrella word for EVERY cold and flu virus that has ever been infecting people ......So using ‘ the crown ‘ as reference to this particular strain as being linked to white horse and the rider wearing a Crown .......is somewhat ‘ out of sinc ‘ because colds and flu have been around for some considerable time !!!!!!!
But you are personally convinced it is true................interesting !!!! Think you need to test a few things before you post them HIH, it’s not helping your credibility x
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This brings up another point. This crown that the rider has is the stephanos, the victory wreath, not the diadem, or ruler's crown. I don't know if "corona" makes that distinction or not. I've always thought of it as "ruler's crown", but I don't know that language. Why are we taking this from a Spanish word anyway?

Much love!
 
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This brings up another point. This crown that the rider has is the stephanos, the victory wreath, not the diadem, or ruler's crown. I don't know if "corona" makes that distinction or not. I've always thought of it as "ruler's crown", but I don't know that language. Why are we taking this from a Spanish word anyway?

Much love!
I don’t know much about translations Mark - my bible notes mentioned ‘ a garland ‘ as well, but as this is about judgment, I wasn’t quite sure what it stood for- obviously victory - but then the rider is looking for a conquest ......
 

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This bow is a biological weapon.
This is where he makes the leap. There is nothing about "toxon" in Ancient Greek that has anything to do with poison, or pestilence, which is what this would more be described as, I think.

He jumps from Greek to Latin to English, then tosses that English word back to define the Greek. Language doesn't work that way.

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‘Coronavirus’ with ‘crown’ seeing how we are able to twist just about anything into something. Makes me question if there is any point to reading the word as I could twist it to say whatever I want it to say.
To me it's like, OK, the next thing comes along, so we find another word from another language that sounds similar and say, this is it?
 

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Nowhere in the world can peace be found. Not in things of this world. Yet, are you saying there is peace of the world to be taken away? If so it is a false peace being taken...what sword is given to take peace from the earth?
The sword mentioned that the red horse rider has is the short sword, used for hand to hand combat, and personel enforcement by the Roman soldiers, not the long sword used for war.

To me this suggests that the peace that will be taken from the world is the interpersonal peaceableness of society, that we aren't all fighting and killing each other. That will end.

White Horse - Government becomes hostile to man
Red Horse - Society becomes hostile to man
Black Horse - Economy becomes hostile to man
Green Horse - Ecology becomes hostile to man

The waxing and waning birth pangs of Matthew 24 are escalated into the constant conditions of the 70th Week.

How I see it . . .

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The sword mentioned that the red horse rider has is the short sword, used for hand to hand combat, and personel enforcement by the Roman soldiers, not the long sword used for war.
Thank you for responding. then I’m so confused?

What Is the Sword of the Spirit?


“This Roman sword was light (around 2 pounds), short and designed to be wielded easily with one hand while the other hand grasped the shield. Its size meant it could be drawn in close quarters, and its sharpened edges made it a threat to any enemy who got too close.

An infantryman in the Roman legions would also go into battle with a dagger, a few spears and possibly a few darts. But the gladius was the only offensive weapon listed by Paul, and it was the main weapon in the soldier’s arsenal.”
 

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Hundreds of theories have been presented on what the 1st Horseman of the Apocalypse might be. When I first saw the following video a few weeks ago, I was initially skeptical. But after realizing what a catastrophic situation we have on our hands, I am now convinced that the following interpretation is actually correct, and we are now living in the days when the first seal of Revelation 6:1-2 has been broken, and the White Horse has now been released upon the earth.

Don't let the lack of activity at CF fool you. This went largely under the radar, but I think he was indeed correct.

God bless,
Hidden In Him

Coronavirus Revealed in Bible Prophecy

Hello...I don't think this is the about the coronavirus...
my first study was to understand the original text of the word apocalypse:
apokalupsis: an uncovering
Original Word: ἀποκάλυψις, εως, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: apokalupsis
Phonetic Spelling: (ap-ok-al'-oop-sis)
Definition: an uncovering
Usage: an unveiling, uncovering, revealing, revelation.

I am in agreement here that the rider of the White Horse is The Word of God, Jesus...
quote:Richard Williams Francis - Quora

In the book of Revelation, the meanings are positive. For those who are faithful and who serve the true God, what is written is never fearful or terrifying. People associate the word “Apocalypse” with great wars and disasters.

But what does the book of Revelation tells us? Happy is the one who reads aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy and who observe the things written in it, for the appointed time is near. (Revelation 1:3) Look! I am coming quickly. Happy is anyone observing the words of the prophecy of this scroll.” (Revelation 22:7) Yes. The book of Revelation begins and ends by saying that those who reads, understands and applies its messages, would be glad for doing so.

“THE RIDER OF THE WHITE HORSE”

“And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures say with a voice like thunder: “Come!” And I saw, and look! a white horse, and the one seated on it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went out conquering and to complete his conquest. Revelation 6:1, 2 (NWT)) Who is the rider of the “White Horse”? I saw heaven opened, and look! a white horse. And the one seated on it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. His eyes are a fiery flame, and on his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, and he is clothed with an outer garment stained with blood, and he is called by the name The Word of God. (Revelation 19:11-13). In the quoted verse it is mentioned “The Word of God.” Who is the “Word” of God?

Let us refer another Bible Scripture. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. This one was in the beginning with God. All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence 4 by means of him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light is shining in the darkness, but the darkness has not overpowered it. (John 1:1-5)

So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only begotten son from a father; and he was full of divine favour and truth. (John 1:14)

Now it is clearly evident that the “Word” refers to Jesus Christ. Hence, Jesus Christ is the rider of the White Horse. On his outer garment, yes, on his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords. (Revelation 19:16) Jesus Christ is called “King of Kings” and “Lord of Lords”. Jesus Christ is described as true and faithful. He does not exercise his power in a corrupt or abusive manner. He is given the authority to act as a “Warrior King.” The Almighty God Lord Jehovah granted Jesus Christ the power and the authority to rule and to execute judgment. The colour ‘White” symbolizes “Righteousness.” The ‘White Horse” is an appropriate symbol for “Warfare,” rightly carried out by God’s Son, Jesus Christ.

Here we see the white horse mentioned again:
Revelation 19:9-19
9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.

17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
 
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Rita, no common cold has ever caused the economies of the entire world to shut down, and nowhere is it being argued that Covid-19 is not a corona virus.
The governments did that, not the virus. The virus didn't incapacitate everyone that's not working. The governments did that.

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These would both fit well in a more Historicist interpretation of Revelations. Only I'm not a Historicist, I'm a Futurist. Part of the reason is because I believe Historicists stretch the fulfillment of prophecy out too far. I believe the events described from Chapter 5 on take place together in a particular time in history, and I believe it is beginning now. That is not to say the Book in its entirety will be fulfilled within 7 years, or even 50. But I view them as destined to be fulfilled as a composite during a single time period in history, not spread out over centuries.

I have some good friends who are Historicists, however, and they would strongly disagree with me, potentially turning this into a very long discussion that I'm not sure I want to get into, LoL.
I'm a futurist too. And Covid-19 doesn't fit.