Pray that we will have a President that is favourable to Christians.

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I suggest praying and fasting for the five-day period leading up to the election; and also praying and fasting as the Spirit leads for the rest of the time leading up to the election.

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The headline is pray for a president favourable to Christians. The problem with that is what Christians are you talking about? Catholic? Protestant Denominational? Bible denying Christians (if there is such a thing)? Homosexual Christians (some claim this)? Name it and claim it Christians? and so on and so on.

What I am going to pray for is a President that is favourable to God.
 
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The headline is pray for a president favourable to Christians. The problem with that is what Christians are you talking about? Catholic? Protestant Denominational? Bible denying Christians (if there is such a thing)? Homosexual Christians (some claim this)? Name it and claim it Christians? and so on and so on.

What I am going to pray for is a President that is favourable to God.
A President who is favourable to God will be favourable to born again Christians who understand the book of Revelation. See the link.

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Perhaps that should be ‘ favourable to Gods plans ‘ - He is still in the driving seat. It should be about praying for His will to be done. The people of the OT testament wanted their own ruler , someone who would align to what they wanted, so God gave them what they wanted - it didn’t work out to well !
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Amen. I think that if God gives people what they want, and the government defunds the police, that there will be mayhem and anarchy with no one to protect the general public.

I pray that God gives these people a vision of what they are really asking for without actually giving them what they are asking for.
 
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2Sa 23:3, The God of Israel said, the Rock of Israel spake to me, He that ruleth over men must be just, ruling in the fear of God.

I don't think that it's Biden.

I heard him use curse words (publicly on television) when he was running with Obama for VP.

Pro 29:24, Whoso is partner with a thief hateth his own soul: he heareth cursing, and bewrayeth it not.

Jhn 10:10, The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
 

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Perhaps that should be ‘ favourable to Gods plans ‘
A governor of the land that is not favourable towards Christians will not be favourable to God's plans.

A governor of the land that hates righteous people will also hate righteousness as a general rule.
 
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You miss my point Justbyfaith - do you believe that God is active in the plans of men, do you believe in prophecy within the book of revelation. Do you believe that whoever wins is completely down to men and who you vote for ?
God already knows who will win, and why they will lead, and what that will determine with regards to the prophecies. How did Christians respond when Obama, Clinton and others have come into power- do they believe that God had no hand in it all, for his purposes to unfold.
This is why you need to seek Gods will - all the while you endeavour to figure it out for yourself you will be leaning on your understanding of the bigger picture, and not The Lords. He may have a different path for your country to take - one that will reap his ultimate victory x
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You miss my point Justbyfaith - do you believe that God is active in the plans of men, do you believe in prophecy within the book of revelation. Do you believe that whoever wins is completely down to men and who you vote for ?
God already knows who will win, and why they will lead, and what that will determine with regards to the prophecies. How did Christians respond when Obama, Clinton and others have come into power- do they believe that God had no hand in it all, for his purposes to unfold.
This is why you need to seek Gods will - all the while you endeavour to figure it out for yourself you will be leaning on your understanding of the bigger picture, and not The Lords. He may have a different path for your country to take - one that will reap his ultimate victory x
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I don't want to be living on the face of the earth when the Antichrist reigns...and I am also uncertain about a pre-tribulation rapture.

With that in mind I don't think it will hurt anyone for the church to pray for a situation that is favourable to Christians in our nation for the time being.

I believe it is the devil himself who would try to discourage the church from praying concerning this, as a matter of fact.
 

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I don't believe that what is written in the book of Revelation is God's perfect and active will for our culture.

The "Amen" at the end of the book indicates to me that the book is a prayer of the devil interspersed with statements by the apostle John that make the church victorious in the long run.
 
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I didn’t say ‘ not to pray ‘ I said ‘ seek Gods will ‘, then follow what the Lord lays on your heart.
And pray for ‘ the right person ‘ to win- the right person in that plan.
I think your opening words say a lot ‘ I don’t want to be living when the anti christ comes ‘ - do any of us , I certainly don’t , but I don’t want it for my family either - but it will come and if the Lord chooses for it to happen in our life times, then he equally knows it’s the right time.
If Biden wins will you presume that God has got it wrong ! ?
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I don't believe that what is written in the book of Revelation is God's perfect and active will for our culture.

The "Amen" at the end of the book indicates to me that the book is a prayer of the devil interspersed with statements by the apostle John that make the church victorious in the long run.
Really, that’s interesting - so you don’t think it will unfold as it says it will ?
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I didn’t say ‘ not to pray ‘ I said ‘ seek Gods will ‘, then follow what the Lord lays on your heart.
And pray for ‘ the right person ‘ to win- the right person in that plan.
I think your opening words say a lot ‘ I don’t want to be living when the anti christ comes ‘ - do any of us , I certainly don’t , but I don’t want it for my family either - but it will come and if the Lord chooses for it to happen in our life times, then he equally knows it’s the right time.
If Biden wins will you presume that God has got it wrong ! ?
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There is never a "right time" for these things to take place...it will only happen when the wrong time in history comes.

I do know that the devil is a principality and power in this world who seeks to obtain his own will in any and every matter.

The Lord has His active will and He has His perfect will...and then there is His permissive will....that's when the devil gets his will, and evil is accomplished in the world.

The Lord seeks for someone to stand in the gap so that His active and perfect will may be done as the result of the prayer and intercession of the Holy Spirit within the intercessor.


Really, that’s interesting - so you don’t think it will unfold as it says it will ?
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I don't think that it has to unfold that way in our lifetime...it will only happen when the power of the holy people has been scattered...see Daniel 12:7.
 

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If Biden makes it into office, I will pray for him every Friday like I do for Trump.

But if he begins to oppress the church, I will be very likely praying for the Lord's judgments against him.
 
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I agree about ‘ being in the gap ‘
Have to give some thought to the rest of your post justbyfaith. Never really considered the different ‘ wills ‘
In fact I don’t think I have ever heard anyone mention the three before - that would make an interesting study.
Got any bible references that would get me started - maybe one on each ‘ will ‘ - unless you want to start a thread on the subject and show how and why you define the three as being separate. It maybe something I know but have defined it in a different way - you have me intrigued x
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I agree about ‘ being in the gap ‘
Have to give some thought to the rest of your post justbyfaith. Never really considered the different ‘ wills ‘
In fact I don’t think I have ever heard anyone mention the three before - that would make an interesting study.
Got any bible references that would get me started - maybe one on each ‘ will ‘ - unless you want to start a thread on the subject and show how and why you define the three as being separate. It maybe something I know but have defined it in a different way - you have me intrigued x
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I'm sorry that I don't have a teaching from the Bible for you on the subject.

Someone taught it to me a long time ago and I don't remember any of the verses.

I just know that it is certain common sense that when evil happens in the world, that, that is not God's active or perfect will.

It only makes sense that the Lord is merely allowing that thing to happen.

Maybe Genesis 50:20 and/or Romans 8:28 speak on the matter, I don't know.
 
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I'm sorry that I don't have a teaching from the Bible for you on the subject.

Someone taught it to me a long time ago and I don't remember any of the verses.

I just know that it is certain common sense that when evil happens in the world, that, that is not God's active or perfect will.

It only makes sense that the Lord is merely allowing that thing to happen.

Maybe Genesis 50:20 and/or Romans 8:28 speak on the matter, I don't know.
If God is allowing it , then does that not conclude that it’s part of his will- like with Job, it had a purpose. Romans 8:28 is one of my favourite verses - but to me, it still concludes that it is being used by God to bring about something - Satan had to ask Gods permission to inflict the things on Job - and God knew that Jobs faith was solid. It had a purpose - and it was instigated by God ‘ have you considered my servant job ‘
So that is being active in starting the ball rolling with regards to what would unfold. Satan was also given boundaries on what he could inflict on Job - that is also active. God played a part.
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If God is allowing it , then does that not conclude that it’s part of his will- like with Job, it had a purpose. Romans 8:28 is one of my favourite verses - but to me, it still concludes that it is being used by God to bring about something - Satan had to ask Gods permission to inflict the things on Job - and God knew that Jobs faith was solid. It had a purpose - and it was instigated by God ‘ have you considered my servant job ‘
So that is being active in starting the ball rolling with regards to what would unfold. Satan was also given boundaries on what he could inflict on Job - that is also active. God played a part.
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Allowing satan to do something evil is God's permissive will; not His active or perfect will.

Simply because God is good; and anything that He truly does in the active or perfect sense would therefore be good in nature.
 

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The headline is pray for a president favourable to Christians. The problem with that is what Christians are you talking about?
It would not matter as to which kind of Christians the OP is talking about. Favorable to Christians means favorable to Christianity. Not opposed to Christianity, and not willing to see Christians (of whatever stripe) persecuted simply because they are Christians, while encouraging Muslims, Islam, Islamist ideology etc. or Communism and Communist ideology.

There is a very serious SPIRITUAL WAR being waged in America right now. That war began in 2017 and has intensified year by year. And 2020 i9s a crucial year for the USA.

Therefore it is important the Christians pray for a president who is not ashamed to be a Christian and who also looks to God for wisdom and strength. He will also need to have a very effective strategy to combat anarchy and lawlessness. That is the primary issue today.

The United States is fortunate to have a Bill of Rights and the right of Christians (and others) to worship according to their conscience. But the liberal justices in the Supreme Court recently attacked that right, and undermined the Constitution. Therefore it is imperative that all Christians in the USA unite to oppose the Supreme Court ruling. Just as the evil Leftists have demonstrations in Washington to promote their evil agendas, Christians should gather en masse before the Supreme Court and demand that the Court rescind that ruling against Christians and churches.

Which also means that several of those liberal judicial activists in the Supreme Court need to be replaced with conservatives who uphold the Constitution. The rule of law and the Constitution are in great jeopardy.