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It's going to vary. I can guarantee however that the more oppressive and unreasonable the police look, the angrier protesters will be -- and the more vandalism we'll see.

There will also be more police murder, maybe of whites as well as blacks. I would pity the poor white being in the wrong area at the wrong time and being murdered by the police. But accidental homicides tend to be forgiven by many juries, sadly. They don't want to sent a policeman into a prison. That wouldn't be pretty.
 

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It's going to vary. I can guarantee however that the more oppressive and unreasonable the police look, the angrier protesters will be -- and the more vandalism we'll see.
And the more that the acts of the bad actors are laid at the feet of all concerned, the worse it will be, whichever way you mean.

Blame all the cops for the acts of an extremely small percentage, and go inflame everyone to riot.

Blame other people's bad behavior for your own. You were mean to someone, so I had to go victimize someone else!
 

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Perhaps that's Trump's goal and that of his supporters. It'll will be a bit harder to take the guns away, I think.
I think that's BLM's dream! A black boot on a white throat. That's certain the way they act!
 

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And the more that the acts of the bad actors are laid at the feet of all concerned, the worse it will be, whichever way you mean.

Blame all the cops for the acts of an extremely small percentage, and go inflame everyone to riot.

Blame other people's bad behavior for your own. You were mean to someone, so I had to go victimize someone else!

The protests and riots would never have happened if the police departments hadn't cleaned up their act. This problem has been going on for at least 25 years, as I remember.
 

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There will also be more police murder, maybe of whites as well as blacks. I would pity the poor white being in the wrong area at the wrong time and being murdered by the police. But accidental homicides tend to be forgiven by many juries, sadly. They don't want to sent a policeman into a prison. That wouldn't be pretty.
What I don't understand is your callousness towards the many many murders committed every day! You pick out one that plays well to the liberal media, and ignore so many many more that reveal that the sanctity of live IS NOT the issue.
 

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The protests and riots would never have happened if the police departments hadn't cleaned up their act. This problem has been going on for at least 25 years, as I remember.
Actually, if it wasn't this, it would be something else. That's the significance of Soros' funding.

Even so . . . I had to be bad! After all, they were bad! Some excuse!

Be not overcome by evil, but overcome evil with . . . good.
 

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I think that's BLM's dream! A black boot on a white throat. That's certain the way they act!

You don't want to say that, marks, do you. You denied this in my summary argument: Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that. It's getting more and more like it is. I don't know why you hate the Bill of Rights except that it may be cherished by people you don't like.
 

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The protests and riots would never have happened if the police departments hadn't cleaned up their act. This problem has been going on for at least 25 years, as I remember.

The protests and riots would never happen if N*****s would abide by the law and not be killed by law abiding officials.

This problem has been going on since blacks were introduced into America.

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What I don't understand is your callousness towards the many many murders committed every day! You pick out one that plays well to the liberal media, and ignore so many many more that reveal that the sanctity of live IS NOT the issue.

But the issue regarding BLM is police murder, marks. That is not in keeping with the OP.
 

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Actually, if it wasn't this, it would be something else. That's the significance of Soros' funding.

Even so . . . I had to be bad! After all, they were bad! Some excuse!

Be not overcome by evil, but overcome evil with . . . good.

BLM was only involved initially concerning police murder. I've already made this position clear in my summary argument: I have always asserted that BLM was not a specifically Christian organization. I do not believe that civil rights be based upon religious belief; and, in state religions of any type. I don't think that churches should be dependent upon governmental tax dollars with the ministers being appointed or confirmed to their office by the government. I think that is something that is set up for anti-christ.
 

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But the issue regarding BLM is police murder, marks. That is not in keeping with the OP.
The OP is about the riots.

BLM is taking advantage of a certain death, exploiting the facts of that death to forment civil disorder for the purpose of furthering their own political aspirations.

There are riots. That was the OP.

And that's what the riots are.

But you don't like that, and want us to ignore it. I'm not about to. That would be foolish.
 

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The protests and riots would never happen if N*****s would abide by the law and not be killed by law abiding officials.

This problem has been going on since blacks were introduced into America.

Stranger

That doesn't explain the protests against police murder, Stranger. If the cops were law abiding, why all the protests and rioting?
 

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The OP is about the riots.

BLM is taking advantage of a certain death, exploiting the facts of that death to forment civil disorder for the purpose of furthering their own political aspirations.

There are riots. That was the OP.

And that's what the riots are.

But you don't like that, and want us to ignore it. I'm not about to. That would be foolish.

That has been answered already in my summary argumentation: I have taken the positions of these two posters to their simple logical conclusion. This is done to show the falsity of their positions. At bottom, both of these posters are still defaming lawful citizens, equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This position of these posters has not changed. I cannot accept the defamation of lawful protesters exercising their constitutional right of assembly to seek redress of grievances, particularly that of police murder and voter suppression.

So I asked these posters, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? Are you sure about this? This is another application of the logic these posters are using. I have continued to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that. It's getting more and more like it is. I don't know why you hate the Bill of Rights except that it may be cherished by people you don't like.
 

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Perhaps that's Trump's goal and that of his supporters. It'll will be a bit harder to take the guns away, I think.
I think some of his supporters are so extreme, they hope for it. About a week ago, this is what Rick Wiles said.

“They have to be outed, they have to be hunted down, they have to be given a trial, and that trial could be a military trial,” he added. “Once you’re declared a terrorist organization, you don’t have constitutional rights. Where are you taken to? Guantanamo. You may see people in these far-left organizations transported to Guantanamo and waterboarded to confess who’s funding the organizations.”


When that didn't happen, he changed his tune a couple of days later -- but remained firmly gripped by the spirit of fear.

“Unless God intervenes in the very near future, Donald Trump is finished,” he continued. “If you think he’s gonna win reelection and he’s gonna fight this group, they neutered him today. He was neutered in public today. He can’t call on the military now … The only people left are his hardcore supporters, and are they going to go out in the streets and be mowed down by the U.S. military? Because the U.S. military is going to be ordered—not by Trump because he doesn’t have control of military anymore—the military is going to be ordered to shoot the Trump supporters.”

“That’s what happened today,” Wiles declared. “I want to vomit today. I’ve been sick on my stomach—grieved, depressed—because the republic fell today.”



He wants a fascist form of government because of his fear --he wants Trump to be a strong man who is willing to use the military. When that seemed to fail, now he think only God's intervention can save Trump and the country -- perhaps shorthand for "the power of the white man is done for unless God intervenes." We are seeing an ugly side of white Protestantism if you ask me. Thank goodness most Protestants aren't as gripped by the spirit of fear as Rick Wiles.
 
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Because the N*****s don't care about law. All they care about is N*****s. Thus OJ is set free. A 'white lynching' was avoided.

It doesn't matter if the black is guilty or not. What matters to the N *****s is that he is set free.

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Do you want to live in a country without civil rights. Do you still want your guns, your vote, etc. I don't think you would.
 

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I think some of his supporters are so extreme, they hope for it. About a week ago, this is what Rick Wiles said.

“They have to be outed, they have to be hunted down, they have to be given a trial, and that trial could be a military trial,” he added. “Once you’re declared a terrorist organization, you don’t have constitutional rights. Where are you taken to? Guantanamo. You may see people in these far-left organizations transported to Guantanamo and waterboarded to confess who’s funding the organizations.”


When that didn't happen, he changed his tune a couple of days later -- but remained firmly gripped by the spirit of fear.

“Unless God intervenes in the very near future, Donald Trump is finished,” he continued. “If you think he’s gonna win reelection and he’s gonna fight this group, they neutered him today. He was neutered in public today. He can’t call on the military now … The only people left are his hardcore supporters, and are they going to go out in the streets and be mowed down by the U.S. military? Because the U.S. military is going to be ordered—not by Trump because he doesn’t have control of military anymore—the military is going to be ordered to shoot the Trump supporters.”

“That’s what happened today,” Wiles declared. “I want to vomit today. I’ve been sick on my stomach—grieved, depressed—because the republic fell today.”



He wants a fascist form of government because of his fear --he wants Trump to be a strong man who is willing to use the military. When that seemed to fail, now he think only God's intervention can save Trump and the country -- perhaps shorthand for "the power of the white man is done for unless God intervenes." We are seeing an ugly side of white Protestantism if you ask me. Thank goodness most Protestants aren't as gripped by the spirit of fear as Rick Wiles.

I've seen these videos before. I don't understand the spirit of cowardice, Giuliano. I suspect that Rick Wiles was never in the military and was just another chickenhawk when it comes to war. So how it goes, unfortunately.

It's sad when men dodge their time to stand up when a war comes only to do the chest pounding for war and violence when they're safely at home, or so they think.
 

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Do you want to live in a country without civil rights. Do you still want your guns, your vote, etc. I don't think you would.

All 'civil rights' is, is a law to let the blacks get away with murder and any other crime they can. Which is what you are seeing with BLM.

Civil rights is not about guns. We already have our gun rights.

Stranger
 

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This posting still stands:

Since I've been flooded with postings meant to annoy me and to make answering difficult, I will wait to see if marks and Rennik can answer the following:

I have taken the positions of these two posters to their simple logical conclusion. This is done to show the falsity of their positions. At bottom, both of these posters are still defaming lawful citizens, equating them with the criminals that have infiltrated their assemblies. This position of these posters has not changed. I cannot accept the defamation of lawful protesters exercising their constitutional right of assembly to seek redress of grievances, particularly that of police murder and voter suppression.

So I asked these posters, do you hold all gun owners responsible for the criminals that infiltrate their ranks to possess and use firearms to commit crimes such as robbery or murder? Are you sure about this? Do you want your guns taken away from you. This is another application of the logic these posters are using. I have continued to ask, why you can't be morally consistent? Again, the logical conclusion of your arguments so far, is that you want to take away the Bill of Rights from Americans.

Are you angry that the Bill of Rights are in the hands of a race different from yourself? I have to wonder that. It's getting more and more like it is. I don't know why you hate the Bill of Rights except that it may be cherished by people you don't like.

I have always asserted that BLM was not a specifically Christian organization. I do not believe that civil rights be based upon religious belief; and, in state religions of any type. I don't think that churches should be dependent upon governmental tax dollars with the ministers being appointed or confirmed to their office by the government. I think that is something that is set up for anti-christ.

I THINK THE POSTERS ARE NOT ANSWERING ME BECAUSE THEY CANNOT ANSWER ME. THE LOGIC IS IRREFUTABLE AND SO THEY SEEK TO HARASS AND ANNOY ME AND AVOID ANY TYPE OF LOGICAL ARGUMENTATION.

Again I ask, why not consider the Golden Rule for a change? This is the moral basis for the right of assembly specifically, and for the Bill of Rights, generally. Let us follow Christ and love others as we wish ourselves to be loved. The Golden Rule establishes equity in law.
 
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All 'civil rights' is, is a law to let the blacks get away with murder and any other crime they can. Which is what you are seeing with BLM.

Civil rights is not about guns. We already have our gun rights.

Stranger

Only as recognized in the Bill of Rights, Stranger. If the Bill of Rights can be taken away, so can the guns.
 
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