That's your right to do so.
I am not really surprised since you seem to had lied when you said you love it when people ask you questions, but then you have deliberately not answered my very simple and relevant questions.
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Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ
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I am not really surprised since you seem to had lied when you said you love it when people ask you questions, but then you have deliberately not answered my very simple and relevant questions.
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Ask me a question on the Shroud.. I can answer it tong. But saying the devil made it makes you sound nutso. Stick to an artist made it.
Science proves its not made by any human hand.
One video said he had to of levitated to get two separate images.
35 minutes. Isabel Piczek
Science proves its not made by any human hand.
One video said he had to of levitated to get two separate images.
35 minutes. Isabel Piczek
Why, are you God? What I know is that only God can do what you say you do there. Or did God give you the power of healing or power to give sight to the blind? If you claim God did, why then do those who you say are blind that you are giving sight to here, do not see what you see?
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Gosh Joseph.
Calm down!
It's not a demonic object.
Some might become too obsessed with it, but it doesn't
seem like it's taking the O.P.'s attention away from God.
Yeah Joe its only the Shroud Of Jesus calm down. 
Did you expect Jesus to not give us sight?
Luke 4:18
English Standard Version
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed,
Luke saw me. He said the writing is going good.
Did you expect Jesus to not give us sight?Luke 4:18
English Standard Version
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed,
Luke saw me. He said the writing is going good.
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Barrie became a believer after 18 years. But now he claims it was stolen from the Jews? Yes I've listened to most of his lectures.
He is a great reference point to start learning about it.
There was one video by a blk guy who laid it all out for me like nobody else but they removed his video from Youtube. That's how i got the story of how the water stains got on it. He debunked all the fakers.
He is a great reference point to start learning about it.
There was one video by a blk guy who laid it all out for me like nobody else but they removed his video from Youtube. That's how i got the story of how the water stains got on it. He debunked all the fakers.
Who is saying that the shroud is of the devil? Did I say that or did you made that up that I say that?
The shroud can't sin nor can it do good.
It's not really about the science that is used or is not used in the examination of the shroud, but more on what gospel you make out of the shroud of Turin.
And so I repeat it again, if your mind and heart is open for repentance regarding this matter on the shroud of Turin and is willing to be corrected, I will tell you your blunder. I'm just waiting for your positive response.
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I've been looking since yesterday about another speaker that was also on a team...I THINK he was a photographer too, but I can't remember his name or find it. He looked kind of disheveled but had such great points that I had never heard.
Anyway Brian,,, we can't convince persons that don't want to hear. Leave that to the Holy Spirit...you can present and speak to your personal experience, which is what we call witnessing,,,but you can't change anybody's mind --- just present the facts and God will handle
the rest.
The photographer is that guy Barrie Schwortz. The Jew! Since when do Jews believe? After they see the Science. But he hasn't talked to me yet.
He believes it doesn't belong to Catholics. But his people. His people rejected Christ.
He believes it doesn't belong to Catholics. But his people. His people rejected Christ.
Why does Brian, or anyone, need to repent regarding belief in the Shroud?
Are you one of those persons that hides his head in the bible and never comes up for air
and can't believe ANYTHING unless it was written in the bible?
Well, surprise, there's a whole world waiting for you out there....
You might want to start with church history...this is also not found in the bible.
The Crusades are not found in the bible either, but if the other side had won, you might be speaking Arabic.
The shroud should be examined scientifically.
As to biblically being correct...
IT IS.
Yeah.. I'm just showing that science can prove which Church Jesus is identifying with.
Originally it DID belong to the Jews (assuming it's real)...the Jews were the only ones around back then except for those that became Christian - BUT they were not known as Christians yet.
Right NOW...it belongs to the CC...or to the Pope to be accurate.
Only since 1985.
I'm pretty shocked that Protestants have such a problem with this.
I'm Protestant, BTW, but I love my Catholic brethren.
Those deceived by the false gospels on earth, can continue posting ad nauseum, without end. There's no need online for them to ever learn the truth ....
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