Mans natural condition - dead in sin

[ChristisGod]

1-Man by nature is deceitful (Jer. 17:9),
2-Man is full of evil (Mark 7:21-23)
3-Man loves darkness (John 3:19),
4-Man does not seek for God (Rom. 3:10-12),
5-Man is ungodly (Rom. 5:6),
6-Man is dead in his sins (Eph. 2:1),
7-Man by nature is a child of wrath (Eph. 2:3),
8-Man cannot understand spiritual things (1 Cor. 2:14),
9-Man is a slave of sin (Rom. 6:16-20)
10-Man is sinful at birth, sinful from the time of conception (Psalm 51:5)
11-Man is like a filthy rag his garments stained by sin and is unrighteous ( Is 64:6)
12-Man is hostile towards God and cannot submit to Him or His law ( Rom 8:7)
13-Man cannot do good and is completely incapable of such an act ( Rom 3:12)
14-Man is not born with faith so everything is done in sin ( Rom 14:23)
15-Man has not one single thing that is good in him ( Rom 7:18)
16-Man is born condemned ( John 3:18)

Man in this condition can no more choose God than a corpse can choose life.

 

[justbyfaith]

Nevertheless, in Romans 5:2, we have the concept that we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand.

So, it is evident that faith comes as a prerequisite for and as a catalyst for my receiving grace.

 

[ChristisGod]

Nevertheless, in Romans 5:2, we have the concept that we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand.

So, it is evident that faith comes as a prerequisite for and as a catalyst for my receiving grace.

And where does that grace and faith come from since man is dead spiritually and by nature hates God and loves sin ?

 

[justbyfaith]

And where does that grace and faith come from since man is dead spiritually and by nature hates God and loves sin ?

I suppose that that is something for you to figure out.

 

[ChristisGod]

I suppose that that is something for you to figure out.

Why would I need to figure out what God makes clear regarding faith and where it comes from ?

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Phil 1:29 For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ,
not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;

Heb 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;
who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,
despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

2 Pet 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ,
to them that have obtained like precious faith with us
through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

1 Cor 4:7 For who maketh thee to differ from another?
and what hast thou that thou didst not receive?
now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory,
as if thou hadst not received

 

[justbyfaith]

It remains that our access to grace comes by faith (Romans 5:2).

So then, grace does not come before faith; but faith comes before grace.

 

[marks]

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Actually, as "gift" is neuter, the feminine noun "faith" is not the antecedant. Grace and faith are feminine, "saved" is masculine, and "gift" is neuter, indicating it takes in all of these.

Of course, Romans 12 tells us God has given to each a measure of faith. Prayers are prayed to increase faith. Faith is from God.

And yet, Paul wrote to Titus that "the grace of God unto salvation has appeared to all men . . .

Much love!