I don't believe there is such a thing as Same sex- marriage.
As far as who puts their efforts in advocacy of whatever is their passion...that is Their Choice to freely make.
Glory to God,
Taken
I'm a Christian and I support the legality of same-sex marriage
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I don't believe there is such a thing as Same sex- marriage.
As far as who puts their efforts in advocacy of whatever is their passion...that is Their Choice to freely make.
Glory to God,
Taken
When someone is at the breaking point and so desperate that they turn to God, they think that God's people know God and therefore they speak for God. So they connect with a church. After an initial grace period, they are expected to believe that their troubles are gone via instant sanctification. And when this doesn't happen, they learn what the word ostracize means and due to the pain of further rejection, they leave. They may think that not even God likes them. What option is left them beside suicide?
I wonder how many addicts and gays have ended their lives after going through what I've just described? While not stated verbally, the sinner is made to feel unclean and that makes them feel unloveable, which they already believed about themselves. It is from this place that many end their lives.
I'm not for a minute trying to legitimize homosexuality or drug abuse. But these people are also made in God's image and Jesus had them in mind too when He went to the cross. It's just that some of the people He sends to us are broken beyond our worst nightmares and need to be loved until they are able to love themselves. They will also need to learn about how God heals the wounded soul. If we can't deal with them ourselves, then we need to have somewhere to send them that can.
20 years ago last March, I was fortunate to have a place to go within an hour's drive. I was further blessed when this ministry relocated to my home town. They welcome everyone. I've been to the 5-day seminar twice and I'm going again this October. I'm excited to go, though I know doing business with God isn't a walk in the park. But it will be worth it.
I'm sure God has this sort of parachurch ministry hidden away here and there, though I am aware that people come from all over to go to the one I'm talking about. Jesus is inclusive. Religion isn't. Shalom.
I wonder how many addicts and gays have ended their lives after going through what I've just described? While not stated verbally, the sinner is made to feel unclean and that makes them feel unloveable, which they already believed about themselves. It is from this place that many end their lives.
I'm not for a minute trying to legitimize homosexuality or drug abuse. But these people are also made in God's image and Jesus had them in mind too when He went to the cross. It's just that some of the people He sends to us are broken beyond our worst nightmares and need to be loved until they are able to love themselves. They will also need to learn about how God heals the wounded soul. If we can't deal with them ourselves, then we need to have somewhere to send them that can.
20 years ago last March, I was fortunate to have a place to go within an hour's drive. I was further blessed when this ministry relocated to my home town. They welcome everyone. I've been to the 5-day seminar twice and I'm going again this October. I'm excited to go, though I know doing business with God isn't a walk in the park. But it will be worth it.
I'm sure God has this sort of parachurch ministry hidden away here and there, though I am aware that people come from all over to go to the one I'm talking about. Jesus is inclusive. Religion isn't. Shalom.
Bobby Jo
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You're communicating to a BROAD AUDIENCE right now, which may include homosexuals and/or may include Christians which may repeat your views TO HOMOSEXUALS.
So you stand condemned for your FALSE TEACHINGS, and will suffer the consequences:
James 3:1 Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, for you know that we who teach shall be judged with greater strictness.
Bobby Jo
So you've judged and condemned me.
This reminds me of the people that wanted to stone Mary Magdalene to death for breaking the law.
Bobby Jo
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1 Cor. 14:29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others weigh what is said.
If we "judge" the prophets, then are the teachers exempt? -- NO! We MUST judge what we're told and not simply believe every word that stumbles from someone's mouth.
SECONDLY:
2 Tmothy 2:2 preach the word, be urgent in season and out of season, convince, rebuke, and exhort, be unfailing in patience and in teaching. 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.
And thus I've done, for someone who's turned from the TRUTH. -- But we are in the "end-times" and must expect this in the church.
And if you will permit, allow me to end your rant by using the IGNORE function!
Bobby Jo
...allow me to end your rant by using the IGNORE function!
Bobby Jo
Ok. God bless you.
historyb
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Studying law I can say that document is considered the highest law of the land with other laws underneath it.
As far as the OP he is a pretender and not a true Christian. The OP only wants to serve himself not God. Many of those kind are coming here now for some reason, maybe Satan is sending them
BARNEY BRIGHT
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I'm not saying we are in God's kingdom, yet. As I said The True God nor true Christianity wants to force anything on anyone. Lets understand some things though such as what constitutes moral and immoral behavior. Morality is basically what is right or wrong when comes to behavior.
Murder, stealing, framing some one for a crime etc are all considered morally wrong and our government will hold such people who practices this kind of behavior responsible and punish those who are guilty and I see nothing wrong about that. What I'm trying to say is true Christianity will agree that our governments will have it's laws and true Christians have no problem obeying those laws of behavior as long as they don't contradict Gods law. Lets take for example the situation of same sex marriage. The true Christians will be against same sex marriage because this is on the topic of homosexual practices. God word is very clear that those who practice homosexual behavior will not be in his kingdom, they will not be given eternal life because these people have chosen to not love God enough to have faith in him that what he says constitutes moral or immoral is just and is in the best interests of what he created. Now does that mean that we as Christians should be a part of some part of the government or help the government that's saying a man can't marry a man or a woman can't marry a woman? The answer is no we should not. The reason why is first we as Christians should be no part of the government and also we as Christians shouldn't force Gods laws or standards on people. God wants people who love him so much that they have faith that what God says we shouldn't do or what we should do is in our best interests to agree with and put into practice because we love him so much that we know he would never ask the impossible from us or he would never say its wrong for us to do a certain thing or act a certain way or focus on something that's not in our best interests to focus on and he be lying to us. God knows what is in the best interests of what he created and those who go their own way and agree with same sex marriage and homosexual behavior are calling God a liar, saying that God doesn't know what's in the best interests of what he created. The True God is the only one who can give you eternal life and only those who love him so much that they have faith in him will get eternal life. So it's each individuals choice, you want only 80 to 100 years of life in this wicked world we're living in today or do you want eternal life in the new earth which will be a paradise.
What world do you live in? Politicians, judges, prosecutors and lawyers are some of the worst murdering thieves!
Grailhunter
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1st Corinthians 6:9-10 “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.”
BARNEY BRIGHT
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what your problem, you think we should approve murdering each other and stealing from each other etc. Is that who you are? I know what kind of wicked world I live in SO DOES THE TRUE GOD. This world we're living in is a world ruled by Satan, The True God Knows That, which is why this wicked world we're living in is going to be destroyed by the True God when Gods holy war begins Until that war begins however we are to obey all laws governments make that don't contradict Gods laws The True God is not a God of disorder so The True God allows these Governments until the Holy war of God Almighty
Try reading my post again. Maybe you'll get a glimpse of truth instead of your JW Watchtower propaganda.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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I don't have to read your post again. I don't agree with the things you say. I know exactly the kind of people exist in this world we live in. Yes there are politicians, lawyers, judges in this world we live in who choose not to do the right thing. That doesn't mean we become rebellious and be like them. If such people make a law that doesn't contradict God's law we are to obey that law. God doesn't teach us in his Word to be disorderly or rebellious we obey the law if those laws don't contradict God's law
Why do so many only quite part of those verses-
V11 and that is what some of you were , But you were washed , you were sanctified, your were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
He is addressing Christians who were in the Kingdom, and some of them came from that group of people mentioned. He doesn’t exclude homosexuals and says , oh yes, not those , they can’t be changed , washed, sanctified, justified ect ect
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BARNEY BRIGHT
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I don't think anyone's forgetting the part of the scripture that says, "and that is what some of you were." That part of the scripture simply means those people who were practicing homosexuals at one time stopped being practicing homosexuals. These men and women if living with one another and having sex with one another stopped having sex with one another and living with one another because they believed the truth that was being spoken to them so they changed.
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