I'm a Christian and I support the legality of same-sex marriage

[K9Buck]

I support freedom and personal choice. I do not want to live under a theocracy. Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage. I DO support laws that protect being victimized by another. For example, murder, assault, abortion, etc. should be ILLEGAL because they adversely affect an innocent, third-party. Same-sex marriage does not.

Frankly, the government should NOT be in the marriage "business". Why should citizens have to pay a fee to the government to get a marriage license? State governments should get OUT. Then, two consenting, competent adults can get "married" within their private organization and they can tell us everyone they're "married" and we can choose to recognize it or ignore it. Courts can continue to deal with marital issues as they are the arbitrator for all sorts of contracts, including marriage.

As well, I will remind my Christian friends that, God gave us free will to make our own choices. Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest? While we're at it, I also believe that prostitution, drug use and gambling should also be legal.

 

[quietthinker]

I support freedom and personal choice. I do not want to live under a theocracy. Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage. I DO support laws that protect being victimized by another. For example, murder, assault, abortion, etc. should be ILLEGAL because they adversely affect an innocent, third-party. Same-sex marriage does not.

Frankly, the government should NOT be in the marriage "business". Why should citizens have to pay a fee to the government to get a marriage license? State governments should get OUT. Then, two consenting, competent adults can get "married" within their private organization and they can tell us everyone they're "married" and we can choose to recognize it or ignore it. Courts can continue to deal with marital issues as they are the arbitrator for all sorts of contracts, including marriage.

As well, I will remind my Christian friends that, God gave us free will to make our own choices. Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest? While we're at it, I also believe that prostitution, drug use and gambling should also be legal.

Freedom to choose is God given. Does that make poor choices right? Is it wise to support poor choices because one has the freedom to do so?
Homosexuality in all its various forms is a gross deviation from healthy relating and as such is destructive. The scripture deems it sin.
Supporting same sex marriages is supporting the enemy's agenda for relational breakdown both personally and societally.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

I support freedom and personal choice. I do not want to live under a theocracy. Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage. I DO support laws that protect being victimized by another. For example, murder, assault, abortion, etc. should be ILLEGAL because they adversely affect an innocent, third-party. Same-sex marriage does not.

Frankly, the government should NOT be in the marriage "business". Why should citizens have to pay a fee to the government to get a marriage license? State governments should get OUT. Then, two consenting, competent adults can get "married" within their private organization and they can tell us everyone they're "married" and we can choose to recognize it or ignore it. Courts can continue to deal with marital issues as they are the arbitrator for all sorts of contracts, including marriage.

As well, I will remind my Christian friends that, God gave us free will to make our own choices. Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest? While we're at it, I also believe that prostitution, drug use and gambling should also be legal.

Honestly, I don't know whether to take you seriously or not, but I'll assume you're on the up and up.

The laws in America have reflected biblical values from the beginning. You ask, "Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest?" This is a loaded question. It seems that those who complain loudest about some laws based on biblical standards don't mind others, such as laws about stealing or murder.... It's a package deal. God is the source of moral standards, and we cannot pick and choose which ones to keep and which to ignore.

Our "free will" is affected by all sorts of laws everyday. It may be my will to go 50 mph in a 30 mph zone, but I can get a ticket if I go the speed I want to go. If I continue to break traffic laws, I can get my license suspended....

Sounds like you need to move to a country where there are few moral restrictions on behavior. Mexico might be a good choice for you. I lived on the border, and I can tell you that it's a nation known for its lawlessness. Just one suggestion. Don't get yourself arrested there. You may end up in a prison and never get out.... Just saying.

 

[K9Buck]

Freedom to choose is God given. Does that make poor choices right? Is it wise to support poor choices because one has the freedom to do so?
Homosexuality in all its various forms is a gross deviation from healthy relating and as such is destructive. The scripture deems it sin.
Supporting same sex marriages is supporting the enemy's agenda for relational breakdown both personally and societally.

Do you believe in individual liberty? Do you believe in separation of church and state? Opposing the legality of same-sex marriage defies both of those concepts.

 

[marks]

Should we prevent cutting?

 

[K9Buck]

It seems that those who complain loudest about some laws based on biblical standards don't mind others, such as laws about stealing or murder.... It's a package deal. God is the source of moral standards, and we cannot pick and choose which ones to keep and which to ignore.

As I said in my OP, stealing and murder adversely affects an innocent third-party, wherein same-sex marriage only affects the same-sex couple and they enter into voluntarily.

For the record, I personally find same-sex relations to be revolting, but I also believe in the rights of others to live their lives free of me.

If you support living under a theocracy, then let me ask you a question. How would you feel if, for instance, Muslims becoming the majority and then imposing Sharia Law on all of us?

 

[K9Buck]

Should we prevent cutting?

What is that?

 

[marks]

Should we prevent cutting?

I don't want this to seem too far out . . .

But my thinking is this . . . some people hurt themselves desparately by their incredibly bad choices. Are we as a society to protect the weaker among us, even if that means emotionally weaker? Some other way? Some addiction, some depravity, that will destroy them?

And then how far should we go?

What is effective? Give an unclear signal? We believe same-sex marriage is wrong, but it's OK if you do it?

Much love!

 

[marks]

What is that?

People who cut themselves with knives because it releases endorphins into the brain to help them self-regulate their emotional state.

Much love! And much prayer needed for those!

 

[K9Buck]

Sounds like you need to move to a country where there are few moral restrictions on behavior. Mexico might be a good choice for you.

Wow.

Do you consider yourself to be all-knowing of everything and that your view is infallible?

 

[K9Buck]

People who cut themselves with knives because it releases endorphins into the brain to help them self-regulate their emotional state. Much love! And much prayer needed for those!

Ok. Yea, it should be LEGAL. Is it illegal now???

Sky diving is dangerous and, sometimes, people die. Should it be outlawed? Should motorcycles be outlawed? Do you see where this leads?

 

[K9Buck]

I don't want this to seem too far out . . .

But my thinking is this . . . some people hurt themselves desparately by their incredibly bad choices. Are we as a society to protect the weaker among us, even if that means emotionally weaker? Some other way? Some addiction, some depravity, that will destroy them?

And then how far should we go?

What is effective? Give an unclear signal? We believe same-sex marriage is wrong, but it's OK if you do it?

Much love!

For the most part, I disagree with the concept that government should run everyone's lives and that fellow citizens are indentured to pay for another's poor choices. I believe society is BETTER when charity is just that, charity, rather than a social program wherein citizens are compelled by government through FORCE to contribute.

 

[marks]

Ok. Yea, it should be LEGAL. Is it illegal now???

Sky diving is dangerous and, sometimes, people die. Should it be outlawed? Should motorcycles be outlawed? Do you see where this leads?

I believe that it comes under the health code, and that you can be restrained and custodialized as being a danger to yourself or others.

Motorcycles, yes, dangerous, and also a brain chemical rush.

I do see where it leads, and it's always a question of just where do you draw the line.

Do you think there may be those who are glad someone stopped them?

Much love!

 

[Candidus]

I support freedom and personal choice. I do not want to live under a theocracy. Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage. I DO support laws that protect being victimized by another. For example, murder, assault, abortion, etc. should be ILLEGAL because they adversely affect an innocent, third-party. Same-sex marriage does not.

Frankly, the government should NOT be in the marriage "business". Why should citizens have to pay a fee to the government to get a marriage license? State governments should get OUT. Then, two consenting, competent adults can get "married" within their private organization and they can tell us everyone they're "married" and we can choose to recognize it or ignore it. Courts can continue to deal with marital issues as they are the arbitrator for all sorts of contracts, including marriage.

As well, I will remind my Christian friends that, God gave us free will to make our own choices. Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest? While we're at it, I also believe that prostitution, drug use and gambling should also be legal.

Yet, Christians are the third party that are harmed in this evil! They cannot hold to their convictions and have freedom of religion because they will be sued if they do not support what God condemns! Homosexuals already had civil-unions, and they did not want to marry, they wanted to destroy the meaning of marriage for Christians and Jews. It's not about homosexual rights, it's about how to destroy and chip away at the foundations of Christianity until it no more condemns them!

They hate God, and they despise Christians, and want to ruin and take away their freedom of religion.

 

[marks]

For the most part, I disagree with the concept that government should run everyone's lives and that fellow citizens are indentured to pay for another's poor choices.

Your disagreement seems to go a lot further than what I was saying.

Much love!

 

[kcnalp]

I support freedom and personal choice. I do not want to live under a theocracy. Therefore, religious doctrine should NOT be used to regulate another's behavior, such as same-sex relations or marriage. I DO support laws that protect being victimized by another. For example, murder, assault, abortion, etc. should be ILLEGAL because they adversely affect an innocent, third-party. Same-sex marriage does not.

Frankly, the government should NOT be in the marriage "business". Why should citizens have to pay a fee to the government to get a marriage license? State governments should get OUT. Then, two consenting, competent adults can get "married" within their private organization and they can tell us everyone they're "married" and we can choose to recognize it or ignore it. Courts can continue to deal with marital issues as they are the arbitrator for all sorts of contracts, including marriage.

As well, I will remind my Christian friends that, God gave us free will to make our own choices. Who are we to restrict another's free will by imposing laws against behavior that doesn't affect us in the slightest? While we're at it, I also believe that prostitution, drug use and gambling should also be legal.

You can do whatever you want to, I guess. But that doesn't mean gays won't burn in Hell.

I Cor 6 Homosexuals will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

 

[Hidden In Him]

As I said in my OP, stealing and murder adversely affects an innocent third-party, wherein same-sex marriage only affects the same-sex couple and they enter into voluntarily.

Well, I admire your willingness to take a stand in the face of what most assuredly will be opposition at a site like this. But about the above, just because two people are consenting does not make something moral in the eyes of God, or even man for that matter. An adult male and a 10 year old girl can both be 100% consenting, but it still be illegal, not to mention other forms of sexual behavior that would be labeled as sinful in the eyes of God, including among other things adultery.

The standard, you see, has to be God's word, not anyone's attempts at gauging morality outside of it.

So your approach would need to be based on the word itself to have any merit to it. Is that something you wish to discuss? I'm assuming so or you wouldn't have started a thread on it. What do you do with the scriptures on the issue of homosexuality?

 

[Hidden In Him]

LoL. I accidentally typoed "accursedly" for the word "assuredly."

In a conversation like this, that might actually be apropos, LoL.
(no offense, K9. Just joking).

 

[Truman]

LoL. I accidentally typoed "accursedly" for the word "assuredly."

In a conversation like this, that might actually be apropos, LoL.
(no offense, K9. Just joking).

I can see that being a problem. Lol!

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Wow.

Do you consider yourself to be all-knowing of everything and that your view is infallible?

No