I'm a Christian and I support the legality of same-sex marriage

[Prayer Warrior]

If a community wanted to build a statue of Zeus on public land to be used to worship him, would you oppose it?

So, you're not just talking about private worship. This goes beyond private worship. Communities usually vote on what is done with public land.

I know what you're getting at. If this nation was founded on Greek Mythology, then I would be swimming up stream opposing a statue to Zeus. But it's a fact that this nation was founded on Christian beliefs and principles, so yes, I would oppose it based on our nation's founding.

 

[Candidus]

I'm not opposed to "condemning" immoral behavior. My opposition is to using government to prevent non-believers from enjoying the same rights as anyone else.

But you are for Government allowing unbelievers to impose their sin/beliefs on Christians, even to the point of harming Freedom of Religion. You just ignore the irrefutable proof of that already given in this thread.

 

[Heart2Soul]

If a community wanted to build a statue of Zeus on public land to be used to worship him, would you oppose it?

Yes I would....at least to be there to voice my opposition to it and to be a voice for Christianity.

 

[BarneyFife]

I'm not interested in being loved by "the world". For that matter, if I wanted to be popular here on this forum, I would NOT have created this thread.

It seems that, many Christians want to use the power of government to prevent same-sex marriage but, are apathetic about preventing other practices that violate bible scripture.

No, we just don't believe the government should use its power to legitimize something that God calls an abomination. People can live with whomever they want and be intimate with whomever they want. But the government doesn't have to put its seal of approval on it. There's a difference between "live and let live" and "throw them a party."

 

[Prayer Warrior]

K9Buck said: "I'm not opposed to "condemning" immoral behavior. My opposition is to using government to prevent non-believers from enjoying the same rights as anyone else."

When did homosexuals not have the right to get married?? They have always had the right to marry a woman, true? So, they have always had the same right as any man in America.

The problem is that they wanted to change God's definition and our society's definition of marriage....

 

[Prayer Warrior]

No, we just don't believe the government should use its power to legitimize something that God calls an abomination. People can live with whomever they want and be intimate with whomever they want. But the government doesn't have to put its seal of approval on it. There's a difference between "live and let live" and "throw them a party."

Yeah, the shoe is definitely on the other foot!

 

[BarneyFife]

Sure, but what does that have to do with letting secularists be secular?

Do you believe secularism is neutral ground in the battle between the forces of good and evil?

 

[K9Buck]

Yes I would....at least to be there to voice my opposition to it and to be a voice for Christianity.

What if it was a statue of Jesus? Would you support it? Or would you say that it's probably better that we permit public lands to be free of religious ideology?

 

[Philip James]

K9Buck said: "I'm not opposed to "condemning" immoral behavior. My opposition is to using government to prevent non-believers from enjoying the same rights as anyone else."

When did homosexuals not have the right to get married?? They have always had the right to marry a woman, right? So, they have always had the same right as any man in America.

The problem is that they wanted to change God's definition and our society's definition of marriage....

They seek not just our tolerance, but our approval, that what they do is right and just... And when we refuse their hatred is enflamed..

Peace!

 

[K9Buck]

Do you believe secularism is neutral ground in the battle between the forces of good and evil?

No. I believe that most secularists are deceived and on the wrong path.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

What if it was a statue of Jesus? Would you support it? Or would you say that it's probably better that we permit public lands to be free of religious ideology?

Yeah, she kinda walked into that one. Why don't you comment on my reply to that question?

 

[K9Buck]

They seek not just our tolerance, but our approval, that what they do is right and just... And when we refuse their hatred is enflamed..

Peace!

That's like saying that we "approve" of sky-diving simply because we have determined that it is legal to do so.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

That's like saying that we "approve" of sky-diving simply because we have determined that it is legal to do so.

Apples and oranges. You keep comparing a behavior that is not immoral (skydiving) to immoral homosexual behavior. Stop it!

 

[Grailhunter]

I'm not interested in being loved by "the world". For that matter, if I wanted to be popular here on this forum, I would NOT have created this thread.

It seems that, many Christians want to use the power of government to prevent same-sex marriage but, are apathetic about preventing other practices that violate bible scripture.

Ok, did I miss something. I mean it is possible. Who wants to put homosexuals in prison. If we get into the things they do, there are several things that are illegal. But as far as just being homosexual, who is wanting to use the power of the government to prevent same sex marriages. If they can find some one to marry them, that is one thing. Freedom.... But there is no reason for Christians to condone it. Adopted children to same sex couples, that is another topic that goes south quick.

 

[K9Buck]

But you are for Government allowing unbelievers to impose their sin/beliefs on Christians...

Letting gay people marry one another within a secular organization such as the government is NOT akin to "allowing unbelievers to impose their sin/beliefs on Christians". Gay people marry all the time and you're not even aware of it because it has ZERO effect on you.

 

[K9Buck]

Ok, did I miss something. ...who is wanting to use the power of the government to prevent same sex marriages.

Yes, I believe you did miss something. To answer your second question, virtually everyone in this thread wants to use the power of government to prevent same-sex marriage.

 

[Philip James]

That's like saying that we "approve" of sky-diving simply because we have determined that it is legal to do so.

No. It is not.

If i refuse to recognize their 'union' especially, if i refuse to alllow my premises to be used to 'celebrate their union' i am likely to be sued..
Should I have the right to refuse to help 'celebrate' their union in any way?

Peace!

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Gay people marry all the time and you're not even aware of it because it has ZERO effect on you.

Legalizing "gay marriage" has had a BIG effect on our society! And it's detrimental.

Edit: Here's an excerpt from an article talking about this.

Why Gay Marriage Would Be Harmful
Institutionalizing homosexual marriage would be bad for marriage, bad for children, and bad for society.
BY ROBERT BENNE AND GERALD MCDERMOTTFEBRUARY 1, 2004

It is a superficial kind of individualism that does not recognize the power of emerging social trends that often start with only a few individuals bucking conventional patterns of behavior. Negative social trends start with only a few aberrations. Gradually, however, social sanctions weaken and individual aberrations became a torrent.

Think back to the 1960s, when illegitimacy and cohabitation were relatively rare. At that time many asked how one young woman having a baby out of wedlock or living with an unmarried man could hurt their neighbors. Now we know the negative social effects these two living arrangements have spawned: lower marriage rates, more instability in the marriages that are enacted, more fatherless children, increased rates of domestic violence and poverty, and a vast expansion of welfare state expenses.

But even so, why would a new social trend of gays marrying have negative effects? We believe there are compelling reasons why the institutionalization of gay marriage would be 1) bad for marriage, 2) bad for children, and 3) bad for society.

This article continues here, buy you have to subscribe.... Why Gay Marriage Would Be Harmful

 

[K9Buck]

If they can find some one to marry them, that is one thing.

All the more reason for state governments to be OUT Of the marriage business. Christians can get married in their respective churches and gay people can get married within their organization, if any.

 

[Candidus]

Letting gay people marry one another within a secular organization such as the government is NOT akin to "allowing unbelievers to impose their sin/beliefs on Christians". Gay people marry all the time and you're not even aware of it because it has ZERO effect on you.

Nonsense! I have already proved you wrong on that. Evidence is readily available to those that are willing to look at it and not just ignore the facts to try to win a debate!