FACAGA?

[theefaith]

FACAGA?

How can salvation be by faith alone in Christ alone thru grace alone?

Faith alone?

1 cor 13:2 and 13:13, Phil 1:29, James 2:24 Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5 Titus 3:5 oppose faith alone!

Christ alone?

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Not Christ alone must also believe on the Father who sent Christ!

Grace alone? Mk 16:16 faith and baptism!
Jn 3:5 water and the spirit! Ez 36:25-27

Not grace alone but, grace, baptism, and the spirit, and a new heart full of love of God by the Holy Spirit!

 

[Raccoon1010]

FACAGA?

How can salvation be by faith alone in Christ alone thru grace alone?

Faith alone?

1 cor 13:2 and 13:13, Phil 1:29, James 2:24 Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5 Titus 3:5 oppose faith alone!

Christ alone?

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Not Christ alone must also believe on the Father who sent Christ!

Grace alone? Mk 16:16 faith and baptism!
Jn 3:5 water and the spirit! Ez 36:25-27

Not grace alone but, grace, baptism, and the spirit, and a new heart full of love of God by the Holy Spirit!

I agree with that, what is faith if you don't practice and become who you believe God wants you to be. And there are so many warnings about the lake of fire for liars, thieves, murders (Revelation 21:8), people that don't practice charity (Matthew 25:44-46) etc.

But Born again Christians should not worry, God will guide them with the Holy Spirit and the fruits of it, which against such works and fruits there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).

I'm not sure about the Baptism part, but I myself certain am Baptized and would not have it another way, that I believe is part of receiving the Holy Spirit (Acts of the Apostles 8:17), which is being prayed upon after Baptism, I mean come on, Jesus himself came to be Baptized (Matthew 3:13-15), so why would any Christian teach anything else?

 

[Enoch111]

Not grace alone but, grace, baptism, and the spirit, and a new heart full of love of God by the Holy Spirit!

You still don't get it. Do you know what justification is all about? Was Abraham baptized? Was Abraham justified? Read and study Romans 4.

 

[justbyfaith]

FACAGA?

How can salvation be by faith alone in Christ alone thru grace alone?

Faith alone?

1 cor 13:2 and 13:13, Phil 1:29, James 2:24 Mk 16:16 Jn 3:5 Titus 3:5 oppose faith alone!

Titus 3:5 speaks of the fact that we are saved "not by works of righteousness which we have done".

As for the rest, we receive the Holy Spirit by faith alone (Galatians 3:14); and the love of the Lord comes in because of that faith (Romans 5:5).

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Not Christ alone must also believe on the Father who sent Christ!

Jesus is the Father (Isaiah 9:6).

Grace alone? Mk 16:16 faith and baptism!
Jn 3:5 water and the spirit! Ez 36:25-27

Not grace alone but, grace, baptism, and the spirit, and a new heart full of love of God by the Holy Spirit!

A man can be saved apart from baptism; for absolute terminology is verily used in Romans 10:13.

While I will not deny that a person can be saved through the sacrament of baptism.

 

[lforrest]

I agree with that, what is faith if you don't practice and become who you believe God wants you to be. And there are so many warnings about the lake of fire for liars, thieves, murders (Revelation 21:8), people that don't practice charity (Matthew 25:44-46) etc.

But Born again Christians should not worry, God will guide them with the Holy Spirit and the fruits of it, which against such works and fruits there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).

I'm not sure about the Baptism part, but I myself certain am Baptized and would not have it another way, that I believe is part of receiving the Holy Spirit (Acts of the Apostles 8:17), which is being prayed upon after Baptism, I mean come on, Jesus himself came to be Baptized (Matthew 3:13-15), so why would any Christian teach anything else?

It wasn't necessary that Jesus be baptised for the forgiveness of sins, as he was without sin. Nether does it make sense that he be baptised into his own death. Therefore it was for another reason. The only one I've heard that is reasonable is that it was necessary for entering into the priesthood Leviticus 8-6. Though Jesus was not a levite perhaps a similar rite is required for the malekzadeh priesthood.

We are also members of that royal priesthood. So water baptism may also be a necessary rite for us. And that would mean it is more than symbolic of Christ's burial and resurrection.

 

[theefaith]

I agree with that, what is faith if you don't practice and become who you believe God wants you to be. And there are so many warnings about the lake of fire for liars, thieves, murders (Revelation 21:8), people that don't practice charity (Matthew 25:44-46) etc.

But Born again Christians should not worry, God will guide them with the Holy Spirit and the fruits of it, which against such works and fruits there is no law (Galatians 5:22-23).

I'm not sure about the Baptism part, but I myself certain am Baptized and would not have it another way, that I believe is part of receiving the Holy Spirit (Acts of the Apostles 8:17), which is being prayed upon after Baptism, I mean come on, Jesus himself came to be Baptized (Matthew 3:13-15), so why would any Christian teach anything else?

oh I agree thanks

 

[theefaith]

You still don't get it. Do you know what justification is all about? Was Abraham baptized? Was Abraham justified? Read and study Romans 4.

You still don't get it. Do you know what justification is all about? Was Abraham baptized? Was Abraham justified? Read and study Romans 4.

you can tell me from the Bible?