That doesn't make sense.Ironically, accepting the free gift of eternal life comes at a cost.
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That doesn't make sense.Ironically, accepting the free gift of eternal life comes at a cost.
Jesus gives us a grain of wheat. He expects more back.Jesus' parable was about salvation, and that nothing is more valuable than that. I don't believe that your quotes were relevant to the simplicity of his anaology.
Ironically, accepting the free gift of eternal life comes at a cost.
Exactly what I said, no sacrifice is too sufficient, even unto death.Mark 8:34-35
And He summoned the crowd with His disciples, and said to them, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it.
What do we make of that?
Jesus used very short and abrupt parables, in order to make a very succinct point. You're reading way too much into it.Jesus gives us a grain of wheat. He expects more back.
He gives us a talent. He will be displeased if we don't increase it.
He plants a seed in the oyster -- it's up to us how big the pearl is.
Do you see a common thread in so many of them -- where a small thing becomes increases?Jesus used very short and abrupt parables, in order to make a very succinct point. You're reading way too much into it.
Matthew 13:31-35
13:31. He presented another parable to them, saying, "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and sowed in his field; 32. and this is smaller than all other seeds, but when it is full grown, it is larger than the garden plants and becomes a tree, so that THE BIRDS OF THE AIR come and NEST IN ITS BRANCHES." 33. He spoke another parable to them, "The kingdom of heaven is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three pecks of flour until it was all leavened." 34. All these things Jesus spoke to the crowds in parables, and He did not speak to them without a parable. 35. This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet: "I WILL OPEN MY MOUTH IN PARABLES; I WILL UTTER THINGS HIDDEN SINCE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD."
Of course, and that's a good point. What appears as small and insignificant, God has exalted. As in the Gospel, a poor man's attraction, will bring glory to all who are fit to enter, ...but, simply that, no more exegesis required.Do you see a common thread in so many of them -- where a small thing becomes increases?
Do you think so? I think God gave us the seed of immortality as a gift. What do we make of it?Of course, and that's a good point. What appears as small and insignificant, God has exalted. As in the Gospel, a poor man's attraction, will bring glory to all who are fit to enter, ...but, simply that, no more exegesis required.
I merely speaking about the expressions in the parables. They are short, and straight to the point, no elaborate interpretation required.Do you think so? I think God gave us the seed of immortality as a gift. What do we make of it?
Matthew 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
They may be concise, but I don't think they're all that easy to understand. There seem to be two levels to them, both useful. The first was given to everyone while the second level to the disciples -- that being said, I'm not sure we understand them that well, even with the explanations given to the disciples.I merely speaking about the expressions in the parables. They are short, and straight to the point, no elaborate interpretation required.
Now, salvation is something different, there's not enough books in the world to do that principle justice. But, that's completely off topic.
Oh c'mon Giuliano, they are very straight forward and simple. Nothing overly profound about them. Novel, yes, but not obscure or esoteric. But, again, every principle of Christian theology is deep, comprehensive and exhaustive, and would require volumes to expound upon all the different levels of understanding that they convey. That goes for everything under the sun, it all can be expounded upon on so many different levels.They may be concise, but I don't think they're all that easy to understand. There seem to be two levels to them, both useful. The first was given to everyone while the second level to the disciples -- that being said, I'm not sure we understand them that well, even with the explanations given to the disciples.
Hmmmm.Oh c'mon Giuliano, they are very straight forward and simple. Nothing overly profound about them. Novel, yes, but not obscure or esoteric. But, again, every principle of Christian theology is deep, comprehensive and exhaustive, and would require volumes to expound upon all the different levels of understanding that they convey. That goes for everything under the sun, it all can be expounded upon on so many different levels.
You're talking a two sentence phrase, and trying to turn it into an entire Gospel, I think that you're not appreciating the purpose of its simplicity.
You can find all your dissertations on Christianity elsewhere in the Bible, just appreciate a concise and brief analogy as such, when it presents itself. There are all types of literary forms throughout the Bible, one doesn't need to force one where it doesn't apply, they are everywhere else.
No it cant, that is a downright lie, He paid the price in full, the devil wants you to pay for it yourself, and you cannot it takes away all His Glory, can yopu do better than Him.Yes, of course it can be bought, you pay in devotio
Giuliano, I was speaking about the 2 sentence parables. But even still, the mysteries that Jesus is talking about is not an entire thesis on salvation. Just keep simple, simple, and exhaustive, exhaustive. You're confusing two different principles. By the verse that you gave, you're trying to make mystery mean something very complex, but in this context it simply means hidden.Hmmmm.
Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
MJR, try to take what I said in context. I was replying to someone who was being too rigid and simplistic about their views, so i just gave a viable twist to the principle of salvation in order to expose their rigidity.No it cant, that is a downright lie, He paid the price in full, the devil wants you to pay for it yourself, and you cannot it takes away all His Glory, can yopu do better than Him.
The whole Law can be expressed simply: Love God and love your neighbor. All the laws of Moses are efforts to bring people around to understanding something quite simple.Giuliano, I was speaking about the 2 sentence parables. But even still, the mysteries that Jesus is talking about is not an entire thesis on salvation. Just keep simple, simple, and exhaustive, exhaustive. You're confusing two different principles. By the verse that you gave, you're trying to make mystery mean something very complex, but in this context it simply means hidden.
In its entirety, the Gospel is mysterious and profound, but the 2 sentence parable that Jesus cited, were just to emphasize a single particular aspect of the full Gospel. Like I said, appreciate the purpose of being succinct and brief, don't try to expand it beyond its intent. You can find what you're looking for elsewhere in the Bible.
Jesus was referring to shallow people, people of the flesh. Speak your wisdom to fools, and they will mock you. One can very quickly separate the sheep from the goats by speaking with profundity, or philosophically. Jesus spoke in parables in order to expose their blindness, not to offer a dissertation of the meaning of Salvation, Grace and Faith.The whole Law can be expressed simply: Love God and love your neighbor. All the laws of Moses are efforts to bring people around to understanding something quite simple.
If I talk about my car, how many words would I need to describe it? What my car is would remain something of a mystery to you until you saw it for yourself. No amount of words can explain a mystery. The words only provide clues. If I tell you my car is blue and you see a red car, that tells you you haven't spotted my car yet. If I point to it and say, "That is my car," you could think I meant my finger was. If you got my intention and followed the direction I was pointing, you would see the car and say, "Aha! So that's it." It's actually quite simple, even if I used a lot of words.
If you were blind, I could talk and point all day long, and it wouldn't enlighten you. The parables were not mean to be understood by everyone.
Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
Jesus was referring to shallow people, people of the flesh. Speak your wisdom to fools, and they will mock you. One can very quickly separate the sheep from the goats by speaking with profundity, or philosophically. Jesus spoke in parables to expose their blindness, not to offer a dissertation of the meaning of Salvation, Grace and Faith.