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Jesus does give us a new command in the NT.

John 16
34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

I do love ALL Christians...
I'd do anything for them including the shirt off my back.

But when you attack and hate my Christan family...I'm going to say something about it. I'm not here to be a doormat.
Huge difference between enduring hardships and suffering and inviting abuse and condoning abuse.
 

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I got no vengeance...that's God's job.
What's amazing to me is how you don't recognize a clear and stated enemy when they are in front of you.
What happened to loving your enemies?

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.


I also do not go around seeing sin in other people. I am not perfect myself. At least, I don't think I am. I probably have sins of ignorance. I hope God is merciful when it comes to judge me. So if I want to be forgiven for my sins of ignorance, I feel I must be willing not to judge others for what may be sins of ignorance. I don't expect them to live up to my ideas of perfection.

Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

You can consider yourself on safe ground if you are sure you have no sins of ignorance and have attained perfection.
 

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I do love ALL Christians...
I'd do anything for them including the shirt off my back.

But when you attack and hate my Christan family...I'm going to say something about it. I'm not here to be a doormat.
Huge difference between enduring hardships and suffering and inviting abuse and condoning abuse.
You are making me feel sick. You are not sounding very much like a Christian. . . .
 

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The Matthew passage is about the war between the Samaritans and the Jews...it wasn't about Jews and Samaritans against the Romans. It was about theological battles and harboring no ill will towards those who were of a different theological group.

And I'm not finger pointing or being judgemental...the woman clearly stated that she wanted to destroy the Christian ideals this nation was founded upon.
Judas betrayed Jesus by getting the Temple guards to arrest him...inviting his enemies to Come to Jesus so they could do him harm.
How is what you are promoting any different?
 

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So your idea is that Christians should return evil for evil, harbor grudges, and speak ill of the dead? At least -- and I give him credit for this -- Trump had kind words to say when he found out.

Luke 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

Your type of vengeful Christianity may be doing more to wreck Christianity in the US than Ginsberg ever did. What amazes me is that you don't seem to see it.

I wouldn't necessarily use Trump as an example. He also speaks well and kindly of living evil people such as his friend Ghislaine Maxwell.
 
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I do love ALL Christians...
I'd do anything for them including the shirt off my back.

But when you attack and hate my Christan family...I'm going to say something about it. I'm not here to be a doormat.
Huge difference between enduring hardships and suffering and inviting abuse and condoning abuse.

Matthew 5:43-44

You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you
 

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Jesus does give us a new command in the NT.

John 16
34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
No one said we should not love our enemies. Since when did that mean we should cover for their wickedness? Should we call evil good? The OT passages are still true. God never did away with every single OT passage. There is truth in both the OT and the NT ...as they fit together. Are you saying that everything we find in the OT should be disregarded? It's still true ...when the evil perish, people rejoice. And yet, God finds no pleasure in the death of the wicked. (That's why He sent His Son.) What is wrong with those passages??
 

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Matthew 5:43-44

You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you

We should always pray for our enemies. Loving them does not mean calling their evil good, nor does it mean we do not expose evil. In fact, if we love someone, we should warn them of the danger of their wickedness.

Question:
Have you ever been personally harmed in a vicious way by someone who absolutely hated you? If so, did you forgive them and pray for them?
 

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We should always pray for our enemies. Loving them does not mean calling their evil good, nor does it mean we do not expose evil. In fact, if we love someone, we should warn them of the danger of their wickedness.

I never said that we should call good evil or evil good.
 
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The Matthew passage is about the war between the Samaritans and the Jews...it wasn't about Jews and Samaritans against the Romans. It was about theological battles and harboring no ill will towards those who were of a different theological group.

And I'm not finger pointing or being judgemental...the woman clearly stated that she wanted to destroy the Christian ideals this nation was founded upon.
That's the second time you said that. What are you talking about? Can you provide a link to a story about it? I'd want to see the exact quote -- I doubt you got this right.
Judas betrayed Jesus by getting the Temple guards to arrest him...inviting his enemies to Come to Jesus so they could do him harm.
How is what you are promoting any different?
Jesus didn't bad mouth Judas or resist evil. He said, "That thou doest, do quickly."

I do not see a connection. Ginsberg never sent guards to arrest me or anyone else that I know of.

Matthew 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
 
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Question:
Have you ever been personally harmed in a vicious way by someone who absolutely hated you? If so, did you forgive them and pray for them?

It's not always easy, but it's something we should all do. I am forgiving and I don't wish for any human to go to hell, but I will admit I don't always remember the praying part though.

I think we all gotta be reminded of this from time to time.

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On another note.

It would even be good to see Kim Jong Un turn to Jesus, as it would be a good testimony for the whole world to see of how Jesus can turn someone's life around, no matter how bad they have stuffed up. It would be like a modern day Saul to Paul conversion, if it happened.

Do you have any idea how many people could possibly turn to Jesus if that was to happen?
 
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No one said we should not love our enemies. Since when did that mean we should cover for their wickedness? Should we call evil good? The OT passages are still true. God never did away with every single OT passage. There is truth in both the OT and the NT ...as they fit together. Are you saying that everything we find in the OT should be disregarded? It's still true ...when the evil perish, people rejoice. And yet, God finds no pleasure in the death of the wicked. (That's why He sent His Son.) What is wrong with those passages??
Odd how people can find almost anything they want in the Bible. This is also written:

Isaiah 57:1 The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come.
 

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That's the second time you said that. What are you talking about? Can you provide a link to a story about it? I'd want to see the exact quote -- I doubt you got this right.
Jesus didn't bad mouth Judas or resist evil. He said, "That thou doest, do quickly."

I do not see a connection. Ginsberg never sent guards to arrest me or anyone else that I know of.

Matthew 5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

Judas was referred to as the Son of Perdition...
He also died badly and went to hell for his crimes. The story is told to us for a REASON...not just a recounting of historical facts.
 

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Anyway it's not our place to judge, I will leave this matter up to God.

If someone turns to Jesus, all there sins are forgiven, even if they turn to Him in their last minutes or last hours.

Our God is a forgiving God.

The absolute worst king in all of Israel Manasseh repented and God forgave him.

But

RBG didn't do that...
Neither did Stephen Hawking.
 

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So when Paul talked about the Metalworker who did him harm or the Brute Beast men are people saying that Paul was sinning?
 

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She was one of the members of the Supreme Court Justices' in the States. The highest Court in the land.

Now for my quick thoughts on here.

She was a very 'liberal' person that set her goals on destroying the Christian backbone and roots of America.
She was a Godless Jew...no resemblance in spirit to any Israel. most probably a Khazarian Jew whose descendants were converted to Judaism centuries ago.

Her accomplishments were wide and deep. Her claim to fame was to destroy the nuclear family with accepting the passage of laws that promoted abortion. She nearly accomplished this killing of innocence by herself. She also was instrumental in creating trans-genderism, that is a scourge on this country and then exported to other countries successfully over the years.

She was never in full control of her faculties to be effective on the Court for several years now. Thus she was irresponsible with a selfish ambition and political agenda

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Front row, left to right: Associate Justice Stephen G. Breyer, Associate Justice Clarence Thomas, Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Jr., Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Associate Justice Samuel A. Alito. Back row: Associate Justice Neil M. Gorsuch, Associate Justice Sonia Sotomayor, Associate Justice Elena Kagan, Associate Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh.
Credit: Fred Schilling, Collection of the Supreme Court of the United States



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Didn't she support adults being able to legally have sex with 14-year-olds? She always reminded me of the old lady in, "Rosemary's Baby."
 

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There's still hope though.

We should remember Bob Marley gave his life to Jesus in his last days..

Just sayin, anything is possible.
I never knew that about Bob. Great news. A Christian should hope she came to Christ. I would be happy to know she did. God doesn't want any to perish. Good point, Josho. We all need to remember that our fight is not against flesh and blood. I'm speaking to myself first. Shalom.
 

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Didn't she support adults being able to legally have sex with 14-year-olds? She always reminded me of the old lady in, "Rosemary's Baby."
I actually cannot confirm or deny that one....

Here's a few she did support though...she was a gender-neutral thinker in all social issues...

from an article concerning her nomination.....

"In August 1993, Thomas L. Jipping also presented a series of arguments against Bader Ginsburg’s nomination, among them referencing the same USCCR report co-authored by Bader Ginsburg. He argued that, in this report, Bader Ginsburg’s recommendations included drafting women into the military, legalizing prostitution, constitutionally protecting bigamy, and “lowering the age of consent for sexual acts to 12 years.”"

I cannot deny or confirm the last recommendation in this snippet as hers....

I would not put it past her though....
 
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