Ziggy
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I wonder though if the fact that AOC seconded Bernie Sanders Nomination.
If Biden falls short of inauguration will Bernie be an option?
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Presidential Election Live Coverage 2020
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If Biden falls short of inauguration will Bernie be an option?
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And if the ballots were handled properly and similar to other elections, will you apologize for slanderous accusations with no basis?
How is it that innocents are guilty by doing an important job, but accusing them of criminal acts is not a problem?
It is right to be cautious and to check problems, but to state fraud has happened when this is just a suggestion is wrong.
It is like me suggesting people are not real contributors just fake stirrers to discourage others.
I will not do this because I have no reason to, but I have been accused of such things not because of what I have said but because peoples belief means I must be like this or I would be like them. This is where you begin to see what delusion does to people and how belief system can be socially destructive, leading the believer into ridiculous accusations and anger....
Your lack of real perspective, either from close up or from a distance, lack of true unbiased research, knowledge and level of understanding about both candidates is captured by your own words when you said, "Biden is a strong candidate, so strong Trump had to rubbish him." You place a very awkward and unnecessary brick wall between us and begin to volley over projectiles to me before we even get started with any introduction and conversation. You have a definite predefined and fixed agenda for reasons you only know. As I said before, and in your fixed-minded agenda is a hate for Trump, that I cannot really understand coming from someone across the pond.
Let me leave this subject on this point .....
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IF and WHEN it should come to Congress...I believe it is the WHOLE ...Congress & Senate, and IMO, why improprieties, happened with those votes as well.
I believe they can nominate whomever they please, then vote on their choice, and that's it.
Dem handlers have been planning and updating their plan for Years. The Republicans knew they were planning...but like Terrorists who fight dirty...one can KNOW an attack is coming, but not have any knowledge of How or When...
Thus the Republican can NOT plan for a Defense, but merely React to the Attack.
That was the 9-11 delimma. Surprise attack, react, decide to go after, obviously not the Dead minion attackers, but their handlers.
Political handlers, (planners, ideas, funding)...
Not the US Government...but outside and weighty influence of plenty of $$$$).
Apologize for For Dems not obeying the Law, and questioning their illegal activity... Of course I would Not Apologize.
How is it Republicans Certified and Lawfully Appointed to Oversee the inspection of ballots were Denied access to inspect the ballots BY your so called "innocents"?
So, by your mindset....IF you were Certified, and Lawfully Appointed to Oversee inspection of Ballots....and were DENIED access... you would wait for someone to TELL you if that was Fraud?
You do not Know the Law?
You do not Know what is violation of the Law?
You do not Know The Penal Laws, that call violations Fraud?
In this Country, all laws are published for all people to have notice of what the laws are.
Ignorance of the Law is not a Defense for Violating the Law.
Violaters of the Law, ARE violaters OF the Law, whether or not they have been tried and convicted or are walking around fee and being Investigated.
The Victim (the American Voter), is without Justice, until the Fraud has been Corrected and the perpetrator (your Declared innocent's) is penalized.
In this Country No one is Declared Innocent by Law. They are either Guilty or Not Guilty.
I highly doubt you have done any investigation whatsoever into the accused of voter oversight violations.
Discourage others FROM WHAT?
Are you suggesting people need to be Told What to do? People are too stupid to make their own choices?
You are on a wave length that is incomprehensible to me.
I don't vote for a person's looks or personality, but rather their agenda for All of America and All Americans and their proven agenda for the Same.
No clue what you do.
Truckers are teed-off big time......remember 29th Nov..I hope this is not a dud effort
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Viral Videos Feature Truck Drivers Discussing Nationwide Strike
by Paul Joseph Watson
Viral videos are being posted to social media featuring truckers in the United States discussing the possibility of a nationwide strike on November 29th in protest against coronavirus lockdown measures and the election.
“As of now the word is November 29th,” states one trucker. “November 29th, we park and we don’t move…November 29th is the day we take this country back. Spread the word. It’s our time. We say what happens,” he adds, before warning, “Shit’s about to get real.”
Viral Videos Feature Truck Drivers Discussing Nationwide Strike
A second video features another trucker outlining the reasons for the strike – coronavirus lockdown measures that have unfairly impacted drivers as well as the outcome of the presidential election.
The individual, who goes by the handle @brickpaad on TikTok, says that at one time truckers were considered to be important because they ensured people received toilet paper and gas to heat their homes.
Viral Videos Feature Truck Drivers Discussing Nationwide Strike
“We’ve been out here in the middle of this pandemic this whole time bringing you shit and how do you thank us?” he asks.
“You close down the restaurants that we eat at…then you close down our rest stops. Now in Wyoming they’re talking about not even plowing the highways this winter because they can’t afford it,” he adds.
“And to top it all off, 70 million of you guys voted against the trucking industry, against first responders, against oil and gas – we ain’t gonna forget this shit, you already have but we won’t.”
A separate report from The Counter details how more than 100 truck drivers in New York “are threatening to strike and shut down supply chains to Whole Foods and Stop & Shop supermarkets in the tri-state area.”
“The drivers say that their employer, the grocery distributor United Natural Foods, better known as UNFI, hasn’t been giving them basic PPE nor have they disinfected their trucks in months,” states the report.
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Viral Videos Feature Truck Drivers Discussing Nationwide Strike
by Paul Joseph Watson
Viral videos are being posted to social media featuring truckers in the United States discussing the possibility of a nationwide strike on November 29th in protest against coronavirus lockdown measures and the election.
“As of now the word is November 29th,” states one trucker. “November 29th, we park and we don’t move…November 29th is the day we take this country back. Spread the word. It’s our time. We say what happens,” he adds, before warning, “Shit’s about to get real.”
Viral Videos Feature Truck Drivers Discussing Nationwide Strike
A second video features another trucker outlining the reasons for the strike – coronavirus lockdown measures that have unfairly impacted drivers as well as the outcome of the presidential election.
The individual, who goes by the handle @brickpaad on TikTok, says that at one time truckers were considered to be important because they ensured people received toilet paper and gas to heat their homes.
Viral Videos Feature Truck Drivers Discussing Nationwide Strike
“We’ve been out here in the middle of this pandemic this whole time bringing you shit and how do you thank us?” he asks.
“You close down the restaurants that we eat at…then you close down our rest stops. Now in Wyoming they’re talking about not even plowing the highways this winter because they can’t afford it,” he adds.
“And to top it all off, 70 million of you guys voted against the trucking industry, against first responders, against oil and gas – we ain’t gonna forget this shit, you already have but we won’t.”
A separate report from The Counter details how more than 100 truck drivers in New York “are threatening to strike and shut down supply chains to Whole Foods and Stop & Shop supermarkets in the tri-state area.”
“The drivers say that their employer, the grocery distributor United Natural Foods, better known as UNFI, hasn’t been giving them basic PPE nor have they disinfected their trucks in months,” states the report.
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There are some issues which cannot be debated, because they are just proven.
Climate change, the rise of CO2 to historical levels from which we will not recover without action.
A catastrophic collapse of ice sheets etc at worst case scenario levels.
Inter cultural conflict which needs to be addressed and spoken to.
Covid-19 a world threatening disease to which we may have no answer than society change.
A one nation approach to the civilisation level challenges we are facing.
These are fixed certainties, which will mark our futures.
To which of these has Trump dealt well, or just played to his political whims? And how has he handled professionals who give their service to their society? When you break this down you find Trump is a guy out of his depth shooting shot gun rounds in random directions, because it makes him look good, not because it makes sense. So he wants a photo op in front of a church. Clear the protestors out the way with riot police, and take a photo with the bible in front of the church.
It would not occur to him this will look bad, because he could easily wait, clear the road quietly and over time and then take the picture. No the people were scum, get rid of them, the president wants his picture. So much of politics is feeling the mood, knowing how people express themselves and giving them space. Sometimes it is being brutally hard, against rioters and armed groups, but it takes real team work and care.
As I said before this is a disaster of international proportions, because so many people round the world have paid attention and disapprove. Yes he plays to the right wing, but in reality they are a small part of the community and never going to keep you in power very long, only until others wise up.
And this junk about a stolen election is just another weird invention to continue his weird self delusion he knows best.
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This election was mostly about worship, baal worship through child sacrifice. The Biden voters chose that day whom they serve.
There may be some un-healthy reverence for President Trump among his supporters. Christians should know he is but a man of God with a great destiny.
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I agree with this driver, truck drivers are not being appreciated and the whole food distribution system rests on their work. They are part of the essential services and should be treated as such with proper food and facilities provided.
How this ties into the election is not clear. It is a lonely job trucking, alone with only a few breaks. I have wondered often that these folk are often the forgotten minority, who need some real support and attention. With the kind of winters the US gets its is doubly a problem, but hopefully now they are going to get some attention.
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God's permissive will as with Israel who wanted an earthly king over them rather than God. He gave them what they wanted....which was less than His perfect will.
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That is a meaningless statement that could apply to any president, even George Washington.
At this stage President Trump is standing up for God, and that should have been sufficient to warrant the vote of every Christian.
The legality of allowing observers to see the ballot counting is an important issue, but it is to help verify there is no fraud, not by creating problems it means there is fraud. And there are important issues of access and trust on both sides.
I listened to a Republican official who stated there were a lot of access issues that have been on going for multiple elections.
With this level of unresolved issues, it is difficult in one election to say this shows for this election fraud has taken place or it is serious, the election must be called invalid. There should be a zero tolerance for a lack of obeying the law in this regard to uphold the integrity of the vote. Unfortunately these kind of issues are a long game issue, which will be passed by in the current environment and numbers involved. If one is going to be blunt, minimum wage people are brought together to handle the massive volume of work in a really short period, and reading machines used to make it efficient.
There are ways of analysing the validity of the vote, putting in random sampling etc. but the incentive is just get it done and forgotten, spend the least you can, especially with tight budgets etc. So when you start to get real, you see its always going to be a mess and a compromise, and probably other than massive issues, it will all flow under the bridge.
But to Trump, this is war.
I do not have skin in the game, just an observer. I know the world will go its own sweet way, but I will prod it with ideas and concepts. So many think they can make a difference when it is movements, common agreement, mass agreed positions that are the things that shift everything. Take the reality we are all going to have to become vegan to a large degree.
This is because meat takes too much land to produce food. We have to change agriculture to meet the growing food needs of the world with limited land resource. If you crunch the maths, it is not an argument, it is again a reality that is coming.
As a family we are almost there, but also because of food allergies. Our old certainties are going, replaced with new biological understanding. I now live largely on oats and nuts, which for me was a revelation you could do this, because the protein levels in oats is enough as a core food group. What we thought of as how you live, is not a long term approach.
I say this as the future is not mine, for maybe 20 years, so it is just a passing wow, I would not have guessed.....
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Ziggy
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Some say the deep state is just a conspiracy theory..
I say, there is no theory, it's a fact.
I did the follow the money thing for 3 years and so many dirty hands. And yet all those hands are always connected.
If not by bank, then by board admin, or a corporation, some foundation, a think tank, cia... they always play the poker game at the same table.
And they don't care who they take out as long as they benefit in the end.
I gave up following. I'd seen enough.
The swamp is deeper than the pit of hell.
I don't even know if there is a bottom.
ho hum..
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It's not meaningless at all. It's scripture. Besides, Washington was a freemason as most of our leaders have been.
Trump is far from Godly.
Trump is far from Godly.
Ziggy
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Was trucking over the road with my ex hubby for 10 years. It's not fun.
They are trying to shut down everything. No freight, no grocers, no manufacturing.. all these things need to ship, mostly by truck.
You shut down trucking... you best be prepared.
I hope it don't happen for a long time.
I get my pet food through chewy and it comes by UPS and if they don't ship to the store..
my cats gonna be some upset.
And who will they blame???
Me of course..
and so won't the kids blame the parents and the parents will blame eachother.. and so forth and so forth..
But no one will blame the one's actually causing the problems.. that is, the government.
They got it all figured out how to rip this country to shreds.
Stay strong, stay together, be prepared.. and love one another with all you got.
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You mean if he just died of old age or received a HVLI?
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