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Here is some NT insight about the "curse".

Galatians 3:13-14
For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.” 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written:Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.” 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

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was no CURSE given to adam and eve

But they died. Isn't this what is considered the Curse of the Law of Sin and Death?

Romans 8:2 NKJV - "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death."

Adam and Eve died. How could they not have sustained the Curse?

Thank you for your input! I want us all to find a way to agree . . . that is so important! Therefore, I will try, try, try to find a way to believe all that you two are teaching. I am open, open, open! In fact, I am so open . . . I love this kind of discussion!:)

I am so grateful for this communication. I've been craving it!
 
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But they died. Isn't this what is considered the Curse of the Law of Sin and Death?

Romans 8:2 NKJV - "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death."

Adam and Eve died. How could they not have sustained the Curse?

Thank you for your input! I want us all to find a way to agree . . . that is so important! Therefore, I will try, try, try to find a way to believe all that you two are teaching. I am open, open, open! In fact, I am so open . . . I love this kind of discussion!:)

I am so grateful for this communication. I've been craving it!
The OP was focused on the literal usage of curse in Genesis 3 and who/what received that curse. So from an exegetical standpoint the OP is correct regarding Genesis 3.

That is not saying we cannot bring other passages into the discussion. I pointed out other things that are a curse in Galatians 3.

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Actually the OP is correct that there was no CURSE given to adam and eve, but a judgment for their sin fell upon them, a punishment for their sin would be the consequences of sin. The curse as stated fell upon the serpent and the ground. Now under the 2nd curse of the land adam would find toil in his labors.

So if we are being technical then the literal curse is upon the serpent and the land.

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No Christophany, you are using semantics to make your point. All entities involved in that context, suffered consequence. If to one, God stipulated it as a curse, and to the other merely as a direct result, what's the difference? All of them were directly impacted, solely and perpetually by the repercussions of the transgression.

And, no, of course, God's intent for perpetuity was never the Garden of Eden. Life as we know it, would have never culminated having Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, if this were the case. Man, by his disobedience, or any other act possible, did not foil God's divine intent for creation.

BTW @DPMartin @Enoch111 @Christophany kudos to all of you just for being able to understand the OP? If it wasn't for your replies to help me follow the thought of the OP, I would've been too perplexed to even reply.
Point being, I cannot barely follow a thing that @Bartholomew Jones ever says, and I'm alluding to the fact that there seems to be a slight delusion in his purpose here - he has an extremely pretentious air about him?
 
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But they died. Isn't this what is considered the Curse of the Law of Sin and Death?

Romans 8:2 NKJV - "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death."

Adam and Eve died. How could they not have sustained the Curse?

Thank you for your input! I want us all to find a way to agree . . . that is so important! Therefore, I will try, try, try to find a way to believe all that you two are teaching. I am open, open, open! In fact, I am so open . . . I love this kind of discussion!:)

I am so grateful for this communication. I've been craving it!
Yes, you are entirely correct 2TG. @Christophany is basing his position on semantics, ...he can be too hyper-literal sometimes - just because it doesn't say curse, to him, it wasn't a curse. But you are correct, the impact of their transgression had curse, in all its intent and purposes, written all over it. For all practical and exegetical reasons, their indiscretion brought a curse upon all mankind, and every single one of us are still feeling the repercussions of it, to this day.
 
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No Christophany, you are using semantics to make your point. All entities involved in that context, suffered consequence. If to one, God stipulated it as a curse, and to the other merely as a direct result, what's the difference? All of them were directly impacted, solely and perpetually by the repercussions of the transgression.

BTW @DPMartin @Enoch111 @Christophany kudos to all of you just for being able to understand the OP? If it wasn't for your replies to help me follow the thought of the OP, I would've been too perplexed to even reply.
Point being, I cannot barely follow a thing that @Bartholomew Jones ever says, and I'm alluding to the fact that there seems to be a slight delusion in his purpose here - he has an extremely pretentious air about him?
Oh I agree there were consequences throughout Genesis 3 from the fall. But only 2 of them were called cursed.

1- the serpent
2- the land, ground

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”

10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”

11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

16 To the woman he said,

“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”

17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’

Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”

20 Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.

21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

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Oh I agree there were consequences throughout Genesis 3 from the fall. But only 2 of them were called cursed.

1- the serpent
2- the land, ground

Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6 When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

8 Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the Lord God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the Lord God among the trees of the garden. 9 But the Lord God called to the man, “Where are you?”

10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.”

11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

12 The man said, “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”

13 Then the Lord God said to the woman, “What is this you have done?”

The woman said, “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”

14 So the Lord God said to the serpent, “Because you have done this,

Cursed are you above all livestock
and all wild animals!
You will crawl on your belly
and you will eat dust
all the days of your life.
15 And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring and hers;
he will crush your head,
and you will strike his heel.”

16 To the woman he said,

“I will make your pains in childbearing very severe;
with painful labor you will give birth to children.
Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.”

17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’

Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
18 It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
19 By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”

20 Adam named his wife Eve, because she would become the mother of all the living.

21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” 23 So the Lord God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. 24 After he drove the man out, he placed on the east side of the Garden of Eden cherubim and a flaming sword flashing back and forth to guard the way to the tree of life.

hope this helps !!!
Yes Christophany, but again, whether curse was specifically stipulated, or that the results were definitively a curse by nature, why are you trying to claim that one was a curse, while the other wasn't? I mean, what's a curse for that matter (rhetorical) -> God intervened so that there will be permanent damages to all parties involved, for the sin of Adam & Eve. All were, for all intents and purposes, cursed for their actions. I think that you are being too much a hyper-literalist here, entirely ignoring the context, and are merely allowing semantics to dictate your conclusion.
 

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Yes Christophany, but again, whether curse was specifically stipulated, or that the results were definitively a curse by nature, why are you trying to claim that one was a curse, while the other wasn't? I mean, what's a curse for that matter (rhetorical) -> God intervened so that there will be permanent damages to all parties involved, for the sin of Adam & Eve. All were, for all intents and purposes, cursed for their actions. I think that you are being too much a hyper-literalist here, entirely ignoring the context, and are merely allowing semantics to dictate your conclusion.
I don't believe Gods word is to be taken literally unless there is a good reason not to dnb. I see no reason from the text to make the curse apply to other things which are not directly stated in the text. Yes there were great consequences from sin a a result but if God wanted to call it all a curse then Moses could of easily said cursed are xyz....... Think of the Sermon on the Mount, the B Attitudes. Blessed are the ______ Blessed are the _____ Blessed are the _______ and so on and so forth. It is repeated for good reason for those things when done are the blessed.

I don't know why you are arguing against the text in Genesis 3 when the Curse is plain to see.

Should we interpret the Bible literally?
Biblical literalists believe that, unless a passage is clearly intended by the writer as allegory, poetry, or some other genre, the Bible should be interpreted as literal statements by the author.

From bible.org and I follow these principles outlined in the link below.

Principle 3: Interpret the Bible literally (or normally) allowing for normal use of figurative language. Take the plain meaning of the text at face value. When the literal does not make sense you probably have a figure of speech. For example, Isaiah 55:12 states the trees of the field will clap their hands. Since trees do not have hands or clap this must be a figure of speech. Look for words such as “like” or “as” which can also communicate a figure of speech. Figures of speech and illustrations give the Bible a powerful and colorful means of expression. They are an important part of the normal expression of language.

Principle 7: Be sensitive to the type of literature you are in. The Bible contains many different types of literature: law, narrative, wisdom, poetry, gospel, parable, epistle, and apocalyptic. Each of these types of literature has specific features that must be considered when interpreting a text. Some of these will be examined in the next section. For now we need to understand that where we are in the Bible makes a big difference on how we interpret and apply it.

Lesson 6: Principles of Biblical Interpretation | Bible.org

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Yes, you are entirely correct 2TG. @Christophany is basing his position on semantics, ...he can be too hyper-literal sometimes - just because it doesn't say curse, to him, it wasn't a curse. But you are correct, the impact of their transgression had curse, in all its intent and purposes, written all over it. For all practical and exegetical reasons, their indiscretion brought a curse upon all mankind, and every single of of us are still feeling the repercussions of it, to this day.

What you said is what all of the Bible Translations I have, say. Even the Blessed Tanakh.
 
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My ears are open! You sound like an amazing resource . . . I pray that as God continues to Transform both of us, that you would be reward for your involvement with the pain and suffering that comes in that line of work.

I just finished uploading our latest video. The others were essentially Biblical commentary, but this latest video deals with the Utter Core of the Bible, and it absolutely deals with Adam and Eve as the initial focal point. Therefore, if you are right, this means that I will be dreadfully wrong, and if I am dreadfully wrong, then all of these videos must be removed and forever deleted.

I need you to understand that it is impossible that I could be content with leading people astray. I can't do it! I'm not willing! So if you would, I need you to watch it and help me make sure that I am either wrong, or, correct.

I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that I am seeing the Truth, but I am most fortunate in that I love to listen to EVERYONE. Why? Because the Holy Truth is all that matters to me. The Truth is vastly more valuable that measly ol' me. In fact, if I don't tell the Truth, I would rather die, and I am most serious about that.



Thank you, BJ!!!!!
Well there's very good news, and I'm honored and so humbled that you let me talk to you in this tone. Your hearts right! That means you're right in what you say. Even if you look a second time and realize you're in grave error, guess what? It's parabolic. Remember the figure Jesus gave about the unjust judge? He made his perfectly fair, perfectly just Abba Father to seem to be a miserable mean judge to illustrate his daddy's kindness. So don't be afraid my friend. That's what a parable is for.
 

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Thank you for showing me this side of the equation. That said, the storyline that you're presenting doesn't fit with the narrative thread and purpose that I see throughout scripture. I'm not saying that you're wrong, I'm just saying that I can't see what it is that you're proposing.

The Curse, as I understand it, is the Curse of Fear, Shame, Guilt . . . a corrupted mind. The earth became corrupted . . . all things became corrupt, and in fact, all things must die. Adam and Eve died, therefore, they not only incited the Curse, but there were of first to experience death because of this Curse.

The Blessing? There really is only one Blessing. For if this Blessing is not given, no other blessing would matter. And what is that Blessing? The Blessing is the Promise, and that Promise is Jesus and His Subsequent Circumcision. And what is that Cirumcision? It is the defeat of the Curse of Adam and Eve. Again, if that Curse is not lifted, no other Blessing would matter, for Hell would await.

We know that Adam and Eve sustained the Law of Sin and Death, for Gen 3:22-23 states that they are indeed . . . going to die. Therefore, they, without a doubt, sustained the Curse. This is the entire point of Romans 5. It tells us that from Adam to Moses, death reigned. And death is that Curse (along with the Confusion and chaos that comes with it, as Paul perfectly describes in Romans 7, where he states "the things I want to do, I cannot . . . because of sin living in me (the Sinful Nature, or the Sinful Mind of the Devil).

Romans 5:12-14 KJV - "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: 13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come."

I'll be honest . . . I will do my absolute best to understand what you are presenting. To do so, I must present Scripture so that you can understand where I am coming from, and in doing so, I'll need you to change even those understandings of Scripture. It isn't going to be easy . . . so maybe we need to, perhaps, address one point at a time?

I am the master of LOOOOONG posts with a million points . . . and that is hard to deal with. I am guilty! There is much to unravel for me to change my views, but I'm willing to do it if you're willing to keep trying. :D

So to start, I suppose I have to ask you to tell me what Paul is teaching in Romans 5. And hey, humans translated the Bible, so at some point, I'll expect you to show that there is perhaps an error in how we, humans, have transcribed the Lord's Heavenly Scrolls.

So what do you think of Romans 5?

Thank you, good sir!
More good news. No man under heaven can interpret Romans 5. It's not for interpretation. It's for reading and doing.

It's written in another place--a man prepares his heart, but his words are ordered by a greater man.
 

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I don't believe Gods word is to be taken literally unless there is a good reason not to dnb. I see no reason from the text to make the curse apply to other things which are not directly stated in the text. Yes there were great consequences from sin a a result but if God wanted to call it all a curse then Moses could of easily said cursed are xyz....... Think of the Sermon on the Mount, the B Attitudes. Blessed are the ______ Blessed are the _____ Blessed are the _______ and so on and so forth. It is repeated for good reason for those things when done are the blessed.

I don't know why you are arguing against the text in Genesis 3 when the Curse is plain to see.

Should we interpret the Bible literally?
Biblical literalists believe that, unless a passage is clearly intended by the writer as allegory, poetry, or some other genre, the Bible should be interpreted as literal statements by the author.

From bible.org and I follow these principles outlined in the link below.

Principle 3: Interpret the Bible literally (or normally) allowing for normal use of figurative language. Take the plain meaning of the text at face value. When the literal does not make sense you probably have a figure of speech. For example, Isaiah 55:12 states the trees of the field will clap their hands. Since trees do not have hands or clap this must be a figure of speech. Look for words such as “like” or “as” which can also communicate a figure of speech. Figures of speech and illustrations give the Bible a powerful and colorful means of expression. They are an important part of the normal expression of language.

Principle 7: Be sensitive to the type of literature you are in. The Bible contains many different types of literature: law, narrative, wisdom, poetry, gospel, parable, epistle, and apocalyptic. Each of these types of literature has specific features that must be considered when interpreting a text. Some of these will be examined in the next section. For now we need to understand that where we are in the Bible makes a big difference on how we interpret and apply it.

Lesson 6: Principles of Biblical Interpretation | Bible.org

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Well, you are entirely correct, aren't you? I accept those hermeneutics that you defined, and have tried to apply them consistently as the basis to all my exegesis. BUT, I said hyper-literalism, as in, when Jesus said to '...severe one's body part if it offends thee...', or '...eat my flesh and drink my blood...' or ' ...you must be born-again..' or ' ...Immanuel, meaning God with us..', these, we do not interpret literally, do we? So, by the same token, just because an act or outcome is not literally classified within a particular genre or pronouncement, it doesn't mean that it cannot be called as such, especially when it carries all the necessary characteristics that qualify it as such.

Adam and Eve were cursed by being banished from the Garden of Eden, and Eve by perennially suffering pain in childbirth, and Adam by having to gain his livelihood by the sweat of his brow. In other words, if the ground was hardened, it is not the earth that suffers, but the man who toils it - Adam was cursed. Same with Eve, if her womb was restricted, what difference does it make to the womb, it is the child bearer that pays the consequence - Eve was cursed.
 

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Well, you are entirely correct, aren't you? I accept those hermeneutics that you defined, and have tried to apply them consistently as the basis to all my exegesis. BUT, I said hyper-literalism, as in, when Jesus said to '...severe one's body part if it offends thee...', or '...eat my flesh and drink my blood...' or ' ...you must be born-again..' or ' ...Immanuel, meaning God with us..', these, we do not interpret literally, do we? So, by the same token, just because an act or outcome is not literally classified within a particular genre or pronouncement, it doesn't mean that it cannot be called as such, especially when it carries all the necessary characteristics that qualify it as such.

Adam and Eve were cursed by being banished from the Garden of Eden, and Eve by perennially suffering pain in childbirth, and Adam by having to gain his livelihood by the sweat of his brow. In other words, if the ground was hardened, it is not the earth that suffers, but the man who toils it - Adam was cursed. Same with Eve, if her womb was restricted, what difference does it make to the womb, it is the child bearer that pays the consequence - Eve was cursed.
Well you should know I'm not hyper by your above definition :)
 

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What you said is what all of the Bible Translations I have, say. Even the Blessed Tanakh.
Yes, it seems that anyone contending the position is just basing it on a superficial reading of the literal words, not deriving their view from the context nor the outcome of the results.
 

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Well you should know I'm not hyper by your above definition :)
Well, hyper in the sense that if it is not stated literally as to what type of pronouncement was made, you will not allow it to be classified as such. That is, you are demanding a literal emphasis. Thus, I consider this to be a form of hyper-literalism.
 

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No Christophany, you are using semantics to make your point. All entities involved in that context, suffered consequence. If to one, God stipulated it as a curse, and to the other merely as a direct result, what's the difference? All of them were directly impacted, solely and perpetually by the repercussions of the transgression.

And, no, of course, God's intent for perpetuity was never the Garden of Eden. Life as we know it, would have never culminated having Christ as King of Kings and Lord of Lords, if this were the case. Man, by his disobedience, or any other act possible, did not foil God's divine intent for creation.

BTW @DPMartin @Enoch111 @Christophany kudos to all of you just for being able to understand the OP? If it wasn't for your replies to help me follow the thought of the OP, I would've been too perplexed to even reply.
Point being, I cannot barely follow a thing that @Bartholomew Jones ever says, and I'm alluding to the fact that there seems to be a slight delusion in his purpose here - he has an extremely pretentious air about him?
I think you're right. I am still very pretentious sometimes. I don't mean to be. I'm wearing fig leaves I guess.
 

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But they died. Isn't this what is considered the Curse of the Law of Sin and Death?

Romans 8:2 NKJV - "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death."

Adam and Eve died. How could they not have sustained the Curse?

Thank you for your input! I want us all to find a way to agree . . . that is so important! Therefore, I will try, try, try to find a way to believe all that you two are teaching. I am open, open, open! In fact, I am so open . . . I love this kind of discussion!:)

I am so grateful for this communication. I've been craving it!
The sting of death is sin and the power of sin is the law. So if we die in our sin we have the curse of the law. But praise be to Jesus, the law of the Spirit of life hath set me free from the law of sin and death!
 

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Yes, it seems that anyone contending the position is just basing it on a superficial reading of the literal words, not deriving their view from the context nor the outcome of the results.

If a person does not understand the Mysterious Plan of God, understanding the Bible as a whole will be utterly impossible . . . futile.
 

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power of sin is the law

Paul defines this . . .

Romans 7:7 NLT - "Well then, am I suggesting that the law of God is sinful? Of course not! In fact, it was the law that showed me my sin. I would never have known that coveting is wrong if the law had not said, "You must not covet."
Romans 7:7 KJV - "What shall we say then? [Is] the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet."

In other words, the Bible teaches against rape, but what if a person had never heard of rape? They wouldn't even think of it. But once they were told, the Sinful Nature within a person will learn of it and perhaps consider it. This is why we must be very careful as we discuss sin with others, for we take the risk of planting ideas, and the Sin Nature thus uses it against us. That is the power of the Law.

Romans 7:8 NLT - "But sin used this command to arouse all kinds of covetous desires within me! If there were no law, sin would not have that power."
Romans 7:8 KJV - "But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin [was] dead."

Romans 7:9 NLT - "At one time I lived without understanding the law. But when I learned the command not to covet, for instance, the power of sin came to life"
Romans 7:9 KJV - "For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died."

Both are saying the same things.