Hebrews 10:26-31

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Grailhunter

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Who wrote the book?
The author of the letter to the Hebrews remains shrouded in mystery. Even early in the church’s history, a Christian as learned as Origen had to admit his ignorance of the true author of Hebrews. Several theories regarding the author’s identity have been proposed over the years, but all of them contain significant problems.

Most of the churches in the eastern part of the Roman Empire believed Paul to have authored the book, leading to its early acceptance into the Canon by the churches in those areas. Even though Clement of Rome drew much from Hebrews in his late-first-century letter to the Corinthian church, many in the Western church pointed away from Paul as the source of the book. Authors such as Luke, Barnabas, Apollos, and even Clement have been considered as possibilities. The unknown authorship of this book should not shake our confidence in its authority. Hebrews makes important theological contributions to the biblical Canon, it has been drawn upon as sacred Scripture since the late first century, and Christians have for two millennia consistently upheld the divine inspiration and, therefore, the canonicity of the book of Hebrews.
 

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@Grailhunter There you are.... you have been quiet... either that or we haven't been going to the same parties... LOL
 

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You didn't even answer my question, lol.

Works do not merit salvation. Works show if you are saved or not. If you accuse me of saying works earn salvation one more time I am reporting you for harassment.


Wahhhhhhh.....why not just use the Scripture to defend yourself , like I do....
 

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Can God give birth to something and not bring it to term?

“ God will finish the work that He started.” To put it rather crudely — the monkey is on HIS back to make you “ fit for Heaven”,......... just the Way He Wants it. THAT Way.....Jesus gets ALL the Glory and you get NONE .....once again, just the Way He Wants it.....
 
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I will reiterate here that the blood of Jesus does not only justify (as per Romans 5:9)...it also sanctifies (Hebrews 13:12, Hebrews 10:29) and cleanses us from all sin (1 John 1:7).

Is it possible that it should be applied and also not perform all of its functions?
 

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Those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ have everlasting life, but what happens to the lady the other week who told me she no longer believes?

Most likely she “ believed” in a “Jesus” Of her own creation....like somebody that came down from Heaven to show you how to be a “ moral enough” person to be “worthy” of Heaven ....that’s a Pretend Jesus.....Jesus never preached a bunch of new rules to be obeyed in order to get Saved ....Jesus preached “ Himself”——- not a guide to better yourself and clean yourself up so you would get what you deserved come Judgement Day....
Once you know who Jesus truly is and understand what He did for you when you did not deserve it and the fact that He did not “ have” to do it.....you will find that it is easier to stay “IN” your Walk Of Faith than it is to Depart it...
When somebody presents another with a FANTASTIC GIFT , it’s just human nature to want to pay that person back.....willingly and lovingly .....
Years ago my daughter had a terrible bike wreck ( she was around 8 or 9 ) and some stranger that lived way up the road where she wrecked carried my young, hurting and scared in his arms all the way to my house......to this day , if this guy, whom I Barely know , where to ask ANYTHiNG of me—-I would happily give him anything he asked for in return for what he did for me....
Those that reject or do not KNOW Jesus are ones that have never really known what He did for them....my neighbor “ Saved” my daughter from a terrible, painful wreck....Jesus Saved “me” from a well- deserved Hell, when He did not have to and when I did nothing to deserve it.....In Fact, I was His Enemy and He underwent a Torturous Death to Save me....How could anybody Turn their Back on Somebody like that? It’s easy , I guess If you don’t Know Him. I KNOW Him and what He did....one could not FORCE me to reject Him......
 
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Most likely she “ believed” in a “Jesus” Of her own creation....like somebody that came down from Heaven to show you how to be a “ moral enough” person to be “worthy” of Heaven ....that’s a Pretend Jesus.....Jesus never preached a bunch of new rules to be obeyed in order to get Saved ....Jesus preached “ Himself”——- not a guide to better yourself and clean yourself up so you would get what you deserved come Judgement Day....
Once you know who Jesus truly is and understand what He did for you when you did not deserve it and the fact that He did not “ have” to do it.....you will find that it is easier to stay “IN” your Walk Of Faith than it is to Depart it...
When somebody presents another with a FANTASTIC GIFT , it’s just human nature to want to pay that person back.....willingly and lovingly .....
Years ago my daughter had a terrible bike wreck ( she was around 8 or 9 ) and some stranger that lived way up the road where she wrecked carried my young, hurting and scared in his arms all the way to my house......to this day , if this guy, whom I Barely know , where to ask ANYTHiNG of me—-I would happily give him anything he asked for in return for what he did for me....
Those that reject or do not KNOW Jesus are ones that have never really known what He did for them....my neighbor “ Saved” my daughter from a terrible, painful wreck....Jesus Saved “me” from a well- deserved Hell, when He did not have to and when I did nothing to deserve it.....In Fact, I was His Enemy and He underwent a Torturous Death to Save me....How could anybody Turn their Back on Somebody like that? It’s easy , I guess If you don’t Know Him. I KNOW Him and what He did....one could not FORCE me to reject Him......
Yet, you have liked a post where someone identified the Holy Spirit as devils coming out of me...

I say to you verily that you are not forgiven for this and are in danger of eternal condemnation (Mark 3:29 (kjv)).

And the fact that you think that you could never lose your salvation puts you in double danger because it means that you don't even realize the danger that you are in.
 

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Yet, you have liked a post where someone identified the Holy Spirit as devils coming out of me...

I say to you verily that you are not forgiven for this and are in danger of eternal condemnation (Mark 3:29 (kjv)).

And the fact that you think that you could never lose your salvation puts you in double danger because it means that you don't even realize the danger that you are in.

You didn't Line up with Scripture, You should have kept your silence, It wasn't the Holy Spirit, The Holy Spirit doesn't contradict scripture. You are under a delusion where you think what you say or represent is from God When what you say doesn't line up with scripture. Then you and call yourself a Teacher so You are under Harsher Judgment, Then to top it off You Teach another Gospel, Your message is condemnation On Christians That they can go to Hell when you fail the Standard you put on others
 
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You didn't Line up with Scripture, You should have kept your silence, It wasn't the Holy Spirit, The Holy Spirit doesn't contradict scripture. You are under a delusion where you think what you say or represent is from God When what you say doesn't line up with scripture. Then you and call yourself a Teacher so You are under Harsher Judgment, Then to top it off You Teach another Gospel, Your message is condemnation On Christians That they can go to Hell when you fail the Standard you put on others
What did I say that didn't line up with scripture? Show forth the quote and the scripture that contradicts it.

I do not condemn those who have a genuine faith in Jesus Christ. If you feel condemned by what I preach, then maybe you aren't a genuine believer.

My constant prayer, that I pray every day, is that everything that comes off of my keyboard might be 100% from the Holy Ghost.

So yes, I am aware that as a teacher of God's word (though my spiritual gift is not teaching but word of wisdom), I will incur a stricter judgment. I take that very seriously.

I hold myself accountable to you and anyone else on these boards who can show that what I preach isn't biblical. If that can be shown, then I will repent of preaching that doctrine.

I know that I am a work in progress and therefore, if I do not live up to the standard that I place on people to be truly born again, it does not mean that I will not live up to that standard in the future.

I will say that the nominal, lukewarm, or shallow believer can indeed go to hell (see Luke 8:13). But the genuine believer who has a heart faith that is unto righteousness (Romans 10:10) and enduring to the end (Matthew 10:22, Hebrews 3:6, Hebrews 3:14) absolutely will not have such a fate.
 

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What did I say that didn't line up with scripture? Show forth the quote and the scripture that contradicts it.

I do not condemn those who have a genuine faith in Jesus Christ. If you feel condemned by what I preach, then maybe you aren't a genuine believer.

My constant prayer, that I pray every day, is that everything that comes off of my keyboard might be 100% from the Holy Ghost.

So yes, I am aware that as a teacher of God's word (though my spiritual gift is not teaching but word of wisdom), I will incur a stricter judgment. I take that very seriously.

I hold myself accountable to you and anyone else on these boards who can show that what I preach isn't biblical. If that can be shown, then I will repent of preaching that doctrine.

I know that I am a work in progress and therefore, if I do not live up to the standard that I place on people to be truly born again, it does not mean that I will not live up to that standard in the future.

I will say that the nominal, lukewarm, or shallow believer can indeed go to hell (see Luke 8:13). But the genuine believer who has a heart faith that is unto righteousness (Romans 10:10) and enduring to the end (Matthew 10:22, Hebrews 3:6, Hebrews 3:14) absolutely will not have such a fate.

Here is what you are talking about for reference.

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So I am undecided as to whether He died for all future sins.

Pokonodobodo...presemitibo..bumemedekoppa.

That is my spelling out the tongues that just came out of my mouth.

I'm certain that someone can come up with an interpretation.

Your playing Games I have been through this so many times and pointed it out many times You just make up excuses, You know what I'm talking about here, Your Gobbledygook Wasnt Tongues And you know it 1 Corinthians 14:28

If you know you are a work in progress and don't live up to the standard you place on others The best thing would be again to not say anything or It makes you a hypocrite, It's not about feeling condemned by what you preach its that it doesn't line up with Scripture

When you publically Stated you are not sure if Jesus Paid for all your Sins or future Sins Have you Considered You Are Not A Genuine Believer?

So If we Look at your fruit It Accuses, Tries to put doubt in People Faith in Jesus Sacrifice He made at calvary, Try and put doubt they are not Saved, And They can Lose Salvation And Go to Hell who do you really think you are working for
 
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justbyfaith

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Your Gobbledygook Wasnt Tongues And you know it

I happen to know that it was tongues.

You don't want to believe that it was, and it behooves you not to believe that it was because if it was then you may have indeed blasphemed the Holy Ghost.

But don't worry; that only means that you are in danger of eternal condemnation (Mark 3:29 (kjv)). If you will apologize to the Holy Spirit maybe He will forgive you or else offer you the equivalent of forgiveness (see Acts of the Apostles 3:19 and 2 Samuel 14:14)

its that it doesn't line up with Scripture

What doesn't line up with scripture?

Use the quote feature, quote my words, and the scripture that contradicts my words.

When you publically Stated you are not sure if Jesus Paid for all your Sins or future Sins Have you Considered You Are Not A Genuine Believer?

I know that I am a genuine believer; and I also believe what it says in Hebrews 10:26-31; where we find the doctrine that if we sin willfully after having received the knowledge of the truth, that sin is not paid for.

But as long as none of my sins are going to be willful, I know that all of my future sins are paid for.

So If we Look at your fruit It Accuses,

It makes you a hypocrite,

:rolleyes:
 

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I happen to know that it was tongues.

You don't want to believe that it was, and it behooves you not to believe that it was because if it was then you may have indeed blasphemed the Holy Ghost.

But don't worry; that only means that you are in danger of eternal condemnation (Mark 3:29 (kjv)). If you will apologize to the Holy Spirit maybe He will forgive you or else offer you the equivalent of forgiveness (see Acts of the Apostles 3:19 and 2 Samuel 14:14)



What doesn't line up with scripture?

Use the quote feature, quote my words, and the scripture that contradicts my words.



I know that I am a genuine believer; and I also believe what it says in Hebrews 10:26-31; where we find the doctrine that if we sin willfully after having received the knowledge of the truth, that sin is not paid for.

But as long as none of my sins are going to be willful, I know that all of my future sins are paid for.





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justbyfaith

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Your Gobbledygook Wasnt Tongues And you know it 1 Corinthians 14:28
There was indeed an interpreter...yours truly (see 1 Corinthians 14:13).

Did you think that because no one interpreted it immediately, that therefore it had to be false tongues and therefore you could call the Holy Spirit a demon and get away with it?
 

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I happen to know that it was tongues.

You don't want to believe that it was, and it behooves you not to believe that it was because if it was then you may have indeed blasphemed the Holy Ghost.

But don't worry; that only means that you are in danger of eternal condemnation (Mark 3:29 (kjv)). If you will apologize to the Holy Spirit maybe He will forgive you or else offer you the equivalent of forgiveness (see Acts of the Apostles 3:19 and 2 Samuel 14:14)

If it was real (which it wasn't) There was no one to interpret so you should have kept Quiet, The Holy Spirit wouldn't make you Say something That Contradicts Scripture, So...Seen there was no one to interpret Do you admit you were wrong there?


Point it out I'm happy for you to do so, You are the one telling Christians if they mess up Hell to pay, And you admit you fail the standard you put on others, and with your own Judgment measured to you well...Hell To pay