Did Jesus Go To Hell?

[April_Rose]

@Devin Wintch, mind quoting your Bible verses again and explain what the first one you quoted was referring to? Now for everybody who isn't in on this conversation of course Jesus didn't go to Hell because He deserved it, the argument is whether or not the Bible says that He went to Hell on our behalves when He died on the cross for our sins.

 

[dev553344]

Sure:

Matthew 12:40 “For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.”

1 Peter 3:19 "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison"

 

[justbyfaith]

Scripture does say that as Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three days and three nights, so would the Son of man be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights.

As for whether or not He suffered for our sins when He was down there, I think that He only went there to preach to the spirits in prison.

It is most probable that Jesus fulfilled all the suffering that was required to pay for our sins while dying on the Cross; as evidenced by the fact of His words near the end of His sufferings, "Te Telestai" ("It is finished").

 

[justbyfaith]

Posted my post before seeing post #2.

 

[dev553344]

@Devin Wintch, mind quoting your Bible verses again and explain what the first one you quoted was referring to? Now for everybody who isn't in on this conversation of course Jesus didn't go to Hell because He deserved it, the argument is whether or not the Bible says that He went to Hell on our behalves when He died on the cross for our sins.

I'm not sure it is common theology that Jesus went to hell even though the scriptures might suggest it. It just says he died on the cross and mentions him visiting hell. Although the heart of the earth is a fiery hell place literally in magma:

1 Peter 3:18 (ASV) Because Christ also suffered for sins once, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God; being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;

 

[dev553344]

Another interesting debate that relates is the reference to the three Baptisms, and again most people I talk to veer from the literal interpretations of these verses, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable distorting the words that way. I mean have a look, this references the hellfire also:

Luke 3:16-17

King James Version

16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

and I've talked to people that witnessed being baptized with fire in a more literal sense.

 

[Taken]

@Devin Wintch, mind quoting your Bible verses again and explain what the first one you quoted was referring to? Now for everybody who isn't in on this conversation of course Jesus didn't go to Hell because He deserved it, the argument is whether or not the Bible says that He went to Hell on our behalves when He died on the cross for our sins.

Yes Jesus' Living Soul went to hell.
And preached to Saved souls...(maybe telling them they would be leaving soon??)
All Saved and Unsaved Living souls went to hell.

The Saved were in comfort, (with the Tree of Life) on one side of a great gulf.
The Unsaved were and ARE on the other side of the Great gulf, in torments, and discomfort.

Jesus is first in all things...He had to leave hell (and return to Heaven) before any Saved souls could be escourted to Heaven, ( by Angels ).

TREE OF LIFE was in the Garden, then the comfort side of hell, now in Heaven, next will be back on Earth in Christ's Kingdom.

Where the Tree of Life is: is called Paradise.
(Old tale...fruit of the Tree of Life in Garden?
Apple?)

When the Tree of Life is back on Earth, in Christ's Kingdom, each month bares 12 manner of fruit.

So, no more do the departed Saved Living souls go to hell...they are directly escorted to Heaven, as their Flesh Body is dying.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[justbyfaith]

Another interesting debate that relates is the reference to the three Baptisms, and again most people I talk to veer from the literal interpretations of these verses, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable distorting the words that way. I mean have a look, this references the hellfire also:

Luke 3:16-17

King James Version

16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:

17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable.

and I've talked to people that witnessed being baptized with fire in a more literal sense.

I think that the fire that burns up the chaff is a different fire than what people are baptized with in the Holy Ghost.

 

[justbyfaith]

Yes Jesus' Living Soul went to hell.
And preached to Saved souls...(maybe telling them they would be leaving soon??)
All Saved and Unsaved Living souls went to hell.

The Saved were in comfort, (with the Tree of Life) on one side of a great gulf.
The Unsaved were and ARE on the other side of the Great gulf, in torments, and discomfort.

Jesus is first in all things...He had to leave hell (and return to Heaven) before any Saved souls could be escourted to Heaven, ( by Angels ).

TREE OF LIFE was in the Garden, then the comfort side of hell, now in Heaven, next will be back on Earth in Christ's Kingdom.

Where the Tree of Life is: is called Paradise.
(Old tale...fruit of the Tree of Life in Garden?
Apple?)

When the Tree of Life is back on Earth, in Christ's Kingdom, each month bares 12 manner of fruit.

So, no more do the departed Saved Living souls go to hell...they are directly escorted to Heaven, as their Flesh Body is dying.

God Bless,
Taken

Jesus descended into hell and led captivity captive out of hell, pulling them by the train of His robe as He rose from the dead and ascended into heaven.

 

[dev553344]

I think that the fire that burns up the chaff is a different fire than what people are baptized with in the Holy Ghost.

My doctrine, which is what I was taught by God, since I also was baptized with fire also, is that he does baptize with the Holy Ghost of a fire. I felt my body as if it was burning and also didn't burn.

 

[DNB]

@Devin Wintch, mind quoting your Bible verses again and explain what the first one you quoted was referring to? Now for everybody who isn't in on this conversation of course Jesus didn't go to Hell because He deserved it, the argument is whether or not the Bible says that He went to Hell on our behalves when He died on the cross for our sins.

Hi AR, Hell, either Hades or Sheol, is nothing more than a term used for the grave, or more accurately, death. There is no consciousness in death, and hell is neither a geographical, logistical or circumscribable location.

In other words, Jesus died on the cross on the 12th hour of Friday noon, until early the following Sunday morning, and lay devoid of life in the tomb for this entire period. Jesus was clinically dead during this time, not animated or vivified, for this is the whole miraculous nature of him being raised from the dead. As for Jonah, he was not dead in the whale's belly, for he prayed to God while devoured by the whale, nor has it ever been stated that Jonah came back to life from being deceased.

As far as 1 Peter 3:19 is concerned, there is not a single person, worth mentioning, who truly understands this passage. For if Christ truly went down to the grave, and dialogued with the countless billions of souls who had died prior to him, there would not be one person who was not saved from Adam up to Christ. For, who can deny his Messiahship seeing Jesus under such circumstances (coming and going from the grave upon God's command). But, primarily, no one is conscious in the grave, they are all asleep, both the saints and the condemned.

 

[dev553344]

Hi AR, Hell, either Hades or Sheol, is nothing more than a term used for the grave, or more accurately, death. There is no consciousness in death, and hell is neither a geographical, logistical or circumscribable location.

In other words, Jesus died on the cross on the 12th hour of Friday noon, until early the following Sunday morning, and lay devoid of life in the tomb for this entire period. Jesus was clinically dead during this time, not animated or vivified, for this is the whole miraculous nature of him being raised from the dead. As for Jonah, he was not dead in the whale's belly, for he prayed to God while devoured by the whale, nor has it ever been stated that Jonah came back to life from being deceased.

As far as 1 Peter 3:19 is concerned, there is not a single person, worth mentioning, who truly understands this passage. For if Christ truly went down to the grave, and dialogued with the countless billions of souls who had died prior to him, there would not be one person who was not saved from Adam up to Christ. For, who can deny his Messiahship seeing Jesus under such circumstances (coming and going from the grave upon God's command). But, primarily, no one is conscious in the grave, they are all asleep, both the saints and the condemned.

I've never read that version of the bible, just out of curiosity, which is it?

 

[DNB]

I've never read that version of the bible, just out of curiosity, which is it?

Hi DW, not exactly sure what you mean (suspicious that you are being sarcastic), but, for the sake of argument, every singly version that is out there (KJV, ASV, ESV, NIV, NASB, NET, RSV, Douay-Rheims, Geneva, Tyndale, Wycliffe, Vulgate, Jerusalem,...).

 

[dev553344]

Hi DW, not exactly sure what you mean (suspicious that you are being sarcastic), but, for the sake of argument, every singly version that is out there (KJV, ASV, ESV, NIV, NASB, NET, RSV, Douay-Rheims, Geneva, Tyndale, Wycliffe, Vulgate, Jerusalem,...).

What's sarcasm? OK, so every version, got it

 

[DNB]

What's sarcasm? OK, so every version, got it

Sorry, my mistake then...

 

[Wrangler]

Did Jesus Go To Hell?

Yes. I'm too tired to research the Scripture but recall in Bible Study those being rescued in Abraham's Bosom.

In the study, this is the top level of hell. There is no verse that supports him going deep into the pit.

 

[April_Rose]

Scripture does say that as Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three days and three nights, so would the Son of man be in the heart of the earth for three days and three nights.

That's the thing though how is that part associated with whether or not Jesus went to Hell?

I've never read that version of the bible, just out of curiosity, which is it?

Exactly as the Bible I have says that Hell is definitely a real place.

 

[justbyfaith]

The heart of the earth = hell.

 

[April_Rose]

The heart of the earth = hell.

To me though Hell represents the fiery afterlife stage, not the physical death where a body is buried into the ground.

 

[dev553344]

To me though Hell represents the fiery afterlife stage, not the physical death where a body is buried into the ground.

I think the question should be: what do you think spirits experience when interacting with the physical world. Would they feel energy and therefore heat. Are spirits energy or something? What are your ideas?