The Great Commission, Written To Whom?

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TexUs

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First, the passages we've got:


Matthew 28:
[sup]16[/sup] Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. [sup]17[/sup] When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. [sup]18[/sup] Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. [sup]19[/sup] Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [sup]20[/sup] and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”


Mark 16:
[sup]14[/sup] Later Jesus appeared to the Eleven as they were eating; he rebuked them for their lack of faith and their stubborn refusal to believe those who had seen him after he had risen. [sup]15[/sup] He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. [sup]16[/sup] Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. [sup]17[/sup] And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; [sup]18[/sup] they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”



Luke 24:
[sup]45[/sup] Then he opened their minds so they could understand the Scriptures. [sup]46[/sup] He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, [sup]47[/sup] and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. [sup]48[/sup] You are witnesses of these things. [sup]49[/sup] I am going to send you what my Father has promised; but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high.”
<Who is "them"? v33, "There they found the Eleven and those with them">
Acts 1:
[sup]7[/sup] He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. [sup]8[/sup] But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
<Who is "them"? v2, "to the apostles he had chosen.">


John 20:
[sup]19[/sup] On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” [sup]20[/sup] After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord. [sup]21[/sup] Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” [sup]22[/sup] And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. [sup]23[/sup] If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”




Now, we know from Acts he appeared to them on multiple occasions. And indeed we know from the above, there are at least two different instances being spoken of. (one in Galilee and one in Jerusalem). But who is the audience? In all but one instance it appears to be the 11. In that one instance there's actually no command given other than "wait in the city".

Thoughts?

 

TexUs

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Nobody?

I guess I'll start with my opinion. It was addressed to the eleven and the eleven alone. As I point out, the one instance we have of him addressing it to a crowd with others gathered, he didn't even deliver the Great Commission, he just said it was coming.

The question then becomes... Does this have application to us today?
In my opinion, yes. Acts 8:4, Acts 11:19, Acts 6:5, Acts 8:25, 1 Peter 2:9. These all speak of the Body evangelizing Christ. The Great Commission was given to the eleven specifically.

However I will draw a distinction. We are not commanded to do so, the Apostles were. It's not forbidden for us to do so, and indeed we should when presented the chance, but I don't think this to be a commandment to all Christians.
I can command someone to go clean the house. Does this commandment apply to all people's in the house? No. Would it be good if someone else started helping? Sure. But I've only commanded one person to do it.

Any of that make sense? Thoughts? I could be wrong!
 

Martin W.

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I always pay close attention to who scripture is directed at. It saves a lot of mix ups and confusion.

Different groups are often given different instruction (advice) that may not necessarily apply to everyone else.

I also keep in mind the difference between the elect (Israel) and the elect (gentile Christians) .

I keep them separate because God sees them separate. Most un-fulfilled prophecy pertains to Israel , not America for example.

We can certainly learn and apply many teachings to ourselves yes , but to form doctrine we must be precise .

The 12 Apostles were given a specific mandate (and powers) that may not apply to us. Many get confused between the two.

I have found it tremendously beneficial through the years to pay close attention to context , intended audience , history vs unfulfilled events etc. It tends to make everything much clearer.

A few of my thoughts Tex.

Best wishes
Martin.
 

TexUs

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I always pay close attention to who scripture is directed at. It saves a lot of mix ups and confusion.

Different groups are often given different instruction (advice) that may not necessarily apply to everyone else.

I also keep in mind the difference between the elect (Israel) and the elect (gentile Christians) .

I keep them separate because God sees them separate. Most un-fulfilled prophecy pertains to Israel , not America for example.

We can certainly learn and apply many teachings to ourselves yes , but to form doctrine we must be precise .

The 12 Apostles were given a specific mandate (and powers) that may not apply to us. Many get confused between the two.

I have found it tremendously beneficial through the years to pay close attention to context , intended audience , history vs unfulfilled events etc. It tends to make everything much clearer.

A few of my thoughts Tex.

Best wishes
Martin.
I absolutely agree. I think the church has read far too much into the Bible than what's actually there, and I think the Great Commission is one of those. I just don't see the commandment to the entire church to "go!" but rather I see the equipping and teaching and sharing among people- which should be apparent and what all Christians should be doing!

This is also why I'll claim no denomination. Each one seems to read entirely too much into what the Bible has actually said.
 

Martin W.

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I absolutely agree. I think the church has read far too much into the Bible than what's actually there, and I think the Great Commission is one of those. I just don't see the commandment to the entire church to "go!" but rather I see the equipping and teaching and sharing among people- which should be apparent and what all Christians should be doing!

This is also why I'll claim no denomination. Each one seems to read entirely too much into what the Bible has actually said.

You have grasped a fundamental understanding that I feel is absolutely correct.

Our function is not necessarily to undertake "The Great Commission"
Our function is to be believers as a result of "The Great Commission"
If we have become Christians , that was the whole intent of "The Great Commission"

It is fine and honorable for us to continue to spread the gospel , but we are not the founders of it.

Like you Tex , I have no denominational associations. Sometimes the bible drags me away from pre-conceived notions , but in the end I am thankful.
 

TexUs

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You have grasped a fundamental understanding that I feel is absolutely correct.

Our function is not necessarily to undertake "The Great Commission"
Our function is to be believers as a result of "The Great Commission"
If we have become Christians , that was the whole intent of "The Great Commission"

It is fine and honorable for us to continue to spread the gospel , but we are not the founders of it.

Like you Tex , I have no denominational associations. Sometimes the bible drags me away from pre-conceived notions , but in the end I am thankful.
I 100% agree.

Some folks like to fault guys that change their theology but I think this is a great thing for this reason.
 

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It was written directly for the apostles. We as Christians are the fruits of that commission. We have the right and I think we should continue in the spreading of the gospel of Jesus Christ. The GC is for us all we are all called to witness and live the life of Jesus Christ before all people. So in direct context it is written to the apostles but in all actuality it is for ALL Christians.