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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Right, you believe Christ descended to earth to meet John. That’s a second advent. Rightttttt I stand by Jamieson when it’s said: yet the Holy Ghost has made him unconsciously (1Pe 1:11, 12) use language expressing the truth, that the resurrection is to be preceded by the dissolution of the...
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    I take the word of God seriously. It seems anything that opposes your doctrine, you have an excuse for. Any verses I mention, you’ll have an excuse. Is that how we should interpret? As long said, I’ve not seen 1 commentary from anyone currently alive or dead that has said Jobs words are not...
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Once again, you’re assuming something from me that isn’t true. You’re very judgmental and I’m not sure why that is. I don’t look for verses to refute verses. Is that how we should use God’s word? Picking and choosing? Diminishing its worth? Every word of God is useful.
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    There is 1 God, Jehovah. And this is the reason I also posted other comments. Because others do not deny Job’s truth. I’m not aware of anyone that has ever stated Job lied, was confused or his words were untrue. Not one person but you. I’ve looked at over 20 commentators; Pre-TB ones, historical...
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    This is why I posted other comments on this subject. People understand the context as his second advent. Are you saying his speaking to John in Rev 1 was his advent? Did you not read, I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, John saw visions of God. Christ didn’t leave heaven to give him...
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    You’re arguing with me but really you’re arguing with God. His word says so. 21Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. He cannot and will not leave heaven till that time. As...
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    If you say so, but if he’s revealed to you now, than it isn’t pre-TB, because we would be beyond that timeline as Babylon would be destroyed. But yes, Obama is a man of sin. We all are sinners.
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Sorry. I take the Bible as infallible. Job was giving truth. As he said 2 verses later, 14If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come. I suppose that was part of his rhetoric that he had “no clue” as you put it. No, Job was in the...
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Who says he has to enter a temple?
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    Obama? When did he lift himself up in pride and sit in the temple? That is the revealing per 2 Thess 2. I prefer to stick with scripture and not guess on things. It leads us to our own understanding. We should lean on the Lord’s instead.
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    He has never left heaven per Acts. You’re referring to his bright light and voice Saul encountered? He didn’t descend from heaven. And he won’t till he returns to resurrect which cannot happen till the restoration; an event that cannot happen till all things shakeable or removable can be removed...
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    I didn’t say Jesus wasn’t the first fruits. Of course he was. But the patriarchs are never said to be in heaven. Do you have scripture to back up that opinion? Job is not resurrected as he stated he will wait for his change after the heavens are no more. Job is not the only one to describe the...
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    But Job was in the spirit speaking truth. He was not reprimanded by God for those words. Yes, Jesus did raise the dead, but the resurrection Job speaks of is the better resurrection (Hebrews 11:35) unto eternal life, not again in the flesh. This is why he says the resurrection will not happen...
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    If Jesus cannot leave heaven till the restoration of all things to their previous glory, when do you suggest we are in heaven? Are we raptured before the seals or in the trumpets or after the bowls? Where do you place our gathering at?
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    Before the flood is actually "after"

    If we are raptured after the AC is revealed, how long does he reign for? Because mainstream Pre-TB says the AC must reign in the second half of Daniel’s 70th week, after the abomination that causes desolation is setup. If I’m understanding you correctly, after that revealing of the AC would...