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You say preterists are deceived, but everything you’ve just said is built on the very framework Darby and Scofield invented, whether you’ve read them or not. You’re repeating their theology word-for-word — from the 3½ year fragmentation of Daniel, to a still-future temple, to a political Antichrist, and a literal Armageddon over in Israel — none of which the early Church taught, and none of which the New Testament supports.

Let’s dismantle this one brick at a time:

1. 3½ years = Scofield's glue for a future “Great Tribulation”
Yes, Revelation uses phrases like “42 months” and “time, times, and half a time.”
But it never once says these are tied together to create a future 7-year tribulation. That gap theology is completely manufactured. Daniel’s 70th week was fulfilled in Christ. No early Christian stretched it into the future — only Darby and his followers did.

2. Revelation is full of symbols — not timelines for CNN

Revelation is apocalyptic, not predictive newsprint.
The “beast empowered for 42 months” was Rome’s imperial persecution.
Revelation 11? Jerusalem is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, not “God’s holy land.”
That’s first-century judgment, not 21st-century speculation.

“These things must shortly come to pass.” — Revelation 1:1
“The time is near.” — Revelation 1:3
You ignore the timeline Revelation gives you, and replace it with one Scofield gave him.

3. Jesus is not building a third temple.

He already built the real one — His Body.

“Destroy this temple, and I will raise it in three days.” — John 2:19
“Do you not know that you are God’s temple?” — 1 Corinthians 3:16
He tore the veil, fulfilled the sacrifice, and sat down.
Any doctrine that says “He’s coming back to build another temple” is spitting on the Cross and treating His finished work as incomplete.

“But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right hand of God.”— Hebrews 10:12
He’s not coming back to sacrifice lambs and supervise blueprints.
That’s blasphemous theology, not prophecy.

4. The Antichrist was never one guy at the end.
“Even now there are many antichrists.” — 1 John 2:18
“Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist.” — 1 John 2:22

Not future. Not political. Anyone who denies the Son is antichrist. That includes false prophets, governments, cults — and yes, even unbelieving modern Israel.

Nero was the historical fulfillment of Revelation’s “beast” — brutal, blasphemous, persecuting Christians.
Your obsession with the Ayatollah is geopolitical fearmongering — not biblical eschatology.

5. 70 A.D. wasn’t “small change.” It was the end of the Old Covenant.
Jesus didn’t compare it to the Flood — He compared it to the Days of Noah:
A sudden judgment when no one listened.
70 A.D. was the day Jerusalem — the covenant-breaking city that crucified the Messiah — was judged and burned to the ground, exactly as Jesus prophesied.

“This generation shall not pass until all these things be fulfilled.” — Matthew 24:34
You’re waiting for something that already happened, and ignoring what it meant.

You’re not defending the Gospel.
You’re defending a system built by men, sold to the Church by a drunk criminal, and fueled by fear, charts, blood moons and Middle Eastern nationalism.

I’ll stick with what the Apostles taught:
One return. One resurrection. One Kingdom. No third temple. No secret escape. No fictional timelines.
Christ reigns now — and when He returns, it’s to judge the living and the dead.

No tanks. No red heifers. No Zionist script.
Just glory, fire, and final judgment.
I take a literal approach to Revelation and most Eschatology. And btw, what really destroys the preterist's view that most of the events happenned in 70 AD, is a very simple fact about Revelation. IT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT 95 AD - THEREFORE NONE OF IT WAS ABOUT 70AD. The Letters to The Seven Churches confirms this. The Church of Symrna didn't even exist in 70AD. Polycarp, a disciple of John, was the 1st Bishop of Symrna and since he was born around 70AD, he was in diapers.
Most of the rest of these churches were just getting started in the 60's, they wouldn't have had these problems. Paul would have mentioned the problems about Ephesus that John was concerned about (in Revelatio in his Ephesians epistle. The reports would conflict. No, John wrote about Ephesus 30 years later than Paul.

No sense to continue; as usual, we are on different sides of the fense ( Pre-Millennial vs. Amillennial).

The main event missing from your " It all happened in 70AD" view is the Second Coming of Christ. Do you believe He returned, scorched the nations with fire ( after only giving them a few decades to receive the Gospel); and resurrected all the believers? That would have a big piece of history, which happens to be missing. The Gospel was just getting started to go out into the world.
 

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God delegated authority to Adam to tend the garden — not torch it. Delegation isn’t a license for negligence. It’s a call to stewardship. Your obsession with angels killing armies and controlling weather in Revelation doesn’t erase the first command God ever gave humans: ‘Tend and keep.’ That’s Genesis 2, not Greenpeace.

Jesus didn’t come so Christians could shrug at suffering and say ‘not my problem.’ Romans 8 says creation groans under our corruption — not an angel’s. So when you call care for creation ‘nonsense,’ you’re not rebuking me — you’re mocking the God who made it.

And no, I’m not collecting ‘brownie points.’ I’m obeying the Word. Jesus said, ‘If you love Me, keep My commandments.’ Not twist scripture into an excuse to act like the world is disposable because you think you’ve got a Rapture escape hatch.

If you really believed in God, you'd tremble at His Word — not cherry-pick judgment passages to justify your own laziness.
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God delegated authority to Adam to tend the garden — not torch it. Delegation isn’t a license for negligence. It’s a call to stewardship. Your obsession with angels killing armies and controlling weather in Revelation doesn’t erase the first command God ever gave humans: ‘Tend and keep.’ That’s Genesis 2, not Greenpeace.

Jesus didn’t come so Christians could shrug at suffering and say ‘not my problem.’ Romans 8 says creation groans under our corruption — not an angel’s. So when you call care for creation ‘nonsense,’ you’re not rebuking me — you’re mocking the God who made it.

And no, I’m not collecting ‘brownie points.’ I’m obeying the Word. Jesus said, ‘If you love Me, keep My commandments.’ Not twist scripture into an excuse to act like the world is disposable because you think you’ve got a Rapture escape hatch.

If you really believed in God, you'd tremble at His Word — not cherry-pick judgment passages to justify your own laziness.
First off, lets get something straight. You mis qouted me in your last post. I never said or ment to say weather doesn't matter because Jesus is coming. I never said that, You did. God will not allow Satan and all his minions in science, history, or social debockery change one aspect of His creation in order to prevent Gods own prophesies to be fulfilled, including and not limited to Jesus return. Nothing man can do to harm this environment, even on purpose, will prevent God from sending His angels from drying up the Euphrates to allow the armies of the world to fight at Armageddon. NOTHING! God cannot be mocked. Even if purple people eaters from outerspace show up tomorrow, IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING. Why? Because science will tell you that water is stored up in clouds. God says the store houses of clouds and rain are kept a seacret. Science is limited. If you think science can control weather patterns with their limited thinking, WAIT TILL YOU SEE WHAT GOD "WILL" DO; And if you think that God is going to punish all those for messing with His environment, THEN LET GOD BE THE JUDGE AND GET OUT OF HIS WAY.
 

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First off, lets get something straight. You mis qouted me in your last post. I never said or ment to say weather doesn't matter because Jesus is coming. I never said that, You did. God will not allow Satan and all his minions in science, history, or social debockery change one aspect of His creation in order to prevent Gods own prophesies to be fulfilled, including and not limited to Jesus return. Nothing man can do to harm this environment, even on purpose, will prevent God from sending His angels from drying up the Euphrates to allow the armies of the world to fight at Armageddon. NOTHING! God cannot be mocked. Even if purple people eaters from outerspace show up tomorrow, IT WILL CHANGE NOTHING. Why? Because science will tell you that water is stored up in clouds. God says the store houses of clouds and rain are kept a seacret. Science is limited. If you think science can control weather patterns with their limited thinking, WAIT TILL YOU SEE WHAT GOD "WILL" DO; And if you think that God is going to punish all those for messing with His environment, THEN LET GOD BE THE JUDGE AND GET OUT OF HIS WAY.

You’re right about one thing: God will not be mocked. Which is exactly why twisting prophecy into an excuse for apathy, recklessness, and laziness is mockery. God told Adam to tend and keep. That command hasn’t been revoked. Delegating judgment to angels in Revelation doesn’t cancel Genesis 2.

And no — I didn’t misquote you. I summarized the spirit of your argument: “Man can’t damage God’s creation because prophecy must be fulfilled.” That’s not biblical logic, that’s prophetic nihilism. Romans 8 says creation groans under human corruption. That means what we do matters.

You say, “Let God judge and get out of His way” — but the entire Bible says the opposite:

“What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God?”
“The earth is the Lord’s… and He will destroy those who destroy the earth.” — Revelation 11:18

Your job isn’t to spectate while clinging to your Armageddon charts. It’s to obey. And that means stewardship, compassion, justice — not dismissive rants about cloud secrets and alien hypotheticals.

If your theology gives you permission to treat creation — or your neighbor — like they’re disposable, then you’re not defending prophecy.
You’re abusing it.
 

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You’re right about one thing: God will not be mocked. Which is exactly why twisting prophecy into an excuse for apathy, recklessness, and laziness is mockery. God told Adam to tend and keep. That command hasn’t been revoked. Delegating judgment to angels in Revelation doesn’t cancel Genesis 2.

And no — I didn’t misquote you. I summarized the spirit of your argument: “Man can’t damage God’s creation because prophecy must be fulfilled.” That’s not biblical logic, that’s prophetic nihilism. Romans 8 says creation groans under human corruption. That means what we do matters.

You say, “Let God judge and get out of His way” — but the entire Bible says the opposite:

“What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God?”
“The earth is the Lord’s… and He will destroy those who destroy the earth.” — Revelation 11:18

Your job isn’t to spectate while clinging to your Armageddon charts. It’s to obey. And that means stewardship, compassion, justice — not dismissive rants about cloud secrets and alien hypotheticals.

If your theology gives you permission to treat creation — or your neighbor — like they’re disposable, then you’re not defending prophecy.
You’re abusing it.
You’re right about one thing: God will not be mocked. Which is exactly why twisting prophecy into an excuse for apathy, recklessness, and laziness is mockery. God told Adam to tend and keep. That command hasn’t been revoked. Delegating judgment to angels in Revelation doesn’t cancel Genesis 2.

And no — I didn’t misquote you. I summarized the spirit of your argument: “Man can’t damage God’s creation because prophecy must be fulfilled.” That’s not biblical logic, that’s prophetic nihilism. Romans 8 says creation groans under human corruption. That means what we do matters.

You say, “Let God judge and get out of His way” — but the entire Bible says the opposite:

“What does the Lord require of you but to do justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God?”
“The earth is the Lord’s… and He will destroy those who destroy the earth.” — Revelation 11:18

Your job isn’t to spectate while clinging to your Armageddon charts. It’s to obey. And that means stewardship, compassion, justice — not dismissive rants about cloud secrets and alien hypotheticals.

If your theology gives you permission to treat creation — or your neighbor — like they’re disposable, then you’re not defending prophecy.
You’re abusing it.
I just told you what I said and ment. You keep returning to your own vomit. I use Armageddon as an example of things that God is doing in the present time that won't permit environmental damage, if any, to interfere with His will. You just don't get it. This world and this material existence is in Gods own word: IS PASSING AWAY. This material existence isn't worth giving mouth to mouth recessetation to. We are in the world, but we are not of this world. Jesus told His desicples, don't happy to cast out demons in my name, but rather rejoice over the fact that you have eternal life. The hope Jesus gives is not in the present, but rather; "Where I am you shall be also". We are to ponder and meditate how we're going to participate in expressing Gods pardon, righteiousness to the entire creation, because it will be at His coming that the entire creation will come out of it's futility, and even then, there will be a NEW heaven and NEW earth to rejoice over. There is more to do than to worry about what "THE" science of today is tell you to worry about. You want everybody to accept what they tell you, hook, line and sinker. Good luck with that christian!