The "Obama" Antichrist Dreams, Part 1

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Spiritual Israelite

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I have never seen so many who think they know so much and know soo little. I really avoid you and have for a long time because nothing you offer up makes any congruent sense tbh.
Not once have you been able to refute anything I've said with any kind of coherent argument. You're all talk and no substance. You are not qualified to be a Bible teacher and you've wasted 40 years being a false teacher. It's sad.
 

Big Boy Johnson

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Not once have you been able to refute anything I've said with any kind of coherent argument. You're all talk and no substance. You are not qualified to be a Bible teacher and you've wasted 40 years being a false teacher. It's sad.

None to worry, someone will be along to show your errors to you. :funlaugh2
 

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Matt. 24:4-6 is about the 70 AD events, 7 and 8 is a DEMNSTRATION of WHY
Yeah that's what's taught. But there is still one stone upon another in the buildings of the Temple.

, then verses 9-13 tell the Disciples their fate they will ALL DIE save John.
Matthew 9-13 has not occurred. This will happen after the 3rd Temple is built.

Jesus IS NOT talking about the EN TIMES in verses 4-13, all that is specifically about the 1st Century AD and the Disciples lives. Verses 7-8 are a mere DEMONSTRTION as to why the Disciples in 70 AD can not see those Wars as Jesus' 2nd coming, because THIS......THIS.........and THIS has t happen first. I told you WHY 1000 times, because if the Disciples had led the Church into battle in 70 AD, the Church would have been WIPED OUT, but do you ever HEAR THIS? No, of course you don't those verses are EBD TIME, even though they are not end time verses.
There is nothing in any of the verses in Matthew 24 that have anything to do with 70 AD. All of it is end time. There was no sign when the Temple was destroyed in 70AD.

Oldest tick in the book, when losing a debate CHANGE SONETHIG UP, lets move to Luke where one can obfuscate better hey? SMH I showed you what Matt. 24 meant, I shant repeat it via going to another Gospel just because you can not give a proper rebut. It means I will the debate point, PERIOD. You just want to dodge when defeated. Dodge Like Lightening.
I'm dodging nothing. I am PROVING to you that all the verses are talking about end times.

The disciples ask directly.........."Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?"

When will the stones be throw down when there will not be one stone upon another and what sign will there be when these things come to pass?

So if it has already happened..........what was the sign? It hasn't happened or we would know the sign.
WHO CARES? More obfuscation, some say 29 AD some 30 AD some 33 AD, its NOT RELLEVANT unless one wants to dodge a point. You are a pro at DODGE BALL, which means you admit defeat. PERIOD.
The whole time line is based on Jesus death. If Jesus returns to set up His kingdom in 2030 the asteroid Apophis fits perfectly in the timeline. If you use 2033 it doesn't. That you be considered.
Another TALL TALES my brother, is the added in 3.5 years when Dan. 9 says Jesus died after 69 WEEKS PERIOD.
What Bible do you use. I use KJV. It says from the time of the commandment to build Jerusalem unto Messiah the Prince there are 69 weeks. It does not say until the death of the Messiah, it says until His arrival. He is cut off 3.5 year later. So there is only 3.5 years left in the 69 weeks.

Daniel 9
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

No there is not, but I have told you that 1000 times, those stones still standing were in the Outer Court of the Gentiles. Not a part of the Temple and was only added much later in a renovation. SMH. Do you get everything in error? Since have shown you this, why do you persist in this untruth brother?
They are of the buildings of the Temple as the Word says. It does not say Temple.

Matthew 24
And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO that's my point, it is Prophetic in Nature? COME AND SEE proves it, its a FUTURE VISION !! Come and see !! come and see !! Whilst in Rev. 8 Angels BLOW the SEVEN TRUMPS!! And in Rev. 15&16 (really one chapter) the Angels prepare the Vials (like the readied the Trumpets to SOUND) to be poured out, THEN in Rev. 16 the Vials are POURED OUT.............it is no COME AND SEE, it is REAL ACTION !!

Why do you always make things so hard. This so simple. John has a vision. In the vision the angels say come and see. John has a vision of Jesus opening the seal and sees what happens when the seal is actually opened

As each seal is opened in the near future the event happens. There is no mystery.

Why do you suppose God DESIGNED everything around the Middle of the Week/1260? Because that is when God's WRATH FALLS ON MANKIND !!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. The great tribulation happens in the midst of the week. The great tribulation is when Christians are killed for not taking the mark. The great tribulation is OVER at the 6th SEAL. Jesus comes for a harvest before the wrath of God as believers are not appointed to wrath.

The 7th seal is the wrath of God. It lasts for ONE YEAR. The 7th trumpet ends wrath. Armageddon has happened as the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord.

You have no idea that the wrath of God ................including the vials is over at the 7th trumpet

The the Two-witnesses are given 1260 days just as the Beast but they show up at the 1335, BEFORE the Beast at the 1260.
They do show up before the beast.
Satan is kicked out at the 1260 and CHASHES THE WOMAN Israel for 1260 days, how is it she has to hide for 1260 days and the tribulation is not 1260 days? Why is the AC not allowed to go forth Conquering until day 1260?
The Antichrist goes forth when the 1st seal is opened. The AOD is set up and great tribulation occurs at the 5th seal which is the great tribulation.

That when GOD'S WRSTH FALLS, He takes out the USA via an Asteroid,
Chapter and verse please.

Rev man, are you getting this out of the book of Douggg?

I shouldn't even bother, because I know you listen to no one but yourself. When you get to heaven and see how wrong you were on everything, you will admit, Prophesy WAS NOT YOUR CALLING.
I listen to the Word of God. If you can provide chapter and verse of anything I have incorrect without changing the meaning of words or making things up, I will be happy to listen.
Rev. 8:13 the Last Threes Trumps bring the THREE WOES, READ IT.
I agree. But those three woes have nothing to do with the vials as the kingdoms of this world are become the kindgoms of our Lord at the 7th trumpet.

I will not continue to argue with a person who will not listen to reason, its a waste of time.
That's just it. The world of God doesn't agree with your position.

When the Word says immediately after the tribulation you claim that means immediately before the tribulation

When the Word says 144,000 first fruits from the 12 tribes, you claim that means all of Israel. When I show you the 144,000 are redeemed from the earth and are in heaven in Revelation 14.............therefore they cannot be all of Israel as Israel remains on the earth in a place of protection during the wrath God. You can't be right, but not a peep out of you.

When the Word says the tribulation is over when the sun and moon are darkened and the stars fall from heaven you disregard this occurs at the 6th seal as we can clearly see and jump over to the 4th trumpet.........OUT OF NOWHERE...........What happened to trumpets, one, two and three? Jesus is over there talking about the great tribulation when believers are killed and you jump to the 4th trumpet.
Be content in being wrong always on everything prophetic.
You have been wandering for 40 years, round and round the mountain with no progress being made. If you are interested in making progress, forget about all you have learned and start over with the Word of God.
 

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I can't resist posting this. It's spoooky man. I think we're burning through the lower verses of Daniel 11.
I still think it's happening now. The Stern Faced King continues burning through the lower verses of Daniel 11.

I was on an investment forum this morning. Oil shares. With Foxe News running. Two many masters. Rumors of Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz. And trouble around the Persian Gulf area. Closing Qatari airspace and Iranian missiles. It didn't go the way that the oil investors predicted. I told them Trump is in charge now.

Trump is in charge today. He squeezed the "risk premium" right out of the oil market today. Right before our eyes. It was something to see. Trump rules the world right now. He has demonstrated his capabilities. There is nobody remaining in the middle east, or the world, to hold him hostage. Nobody stands in his way. Don't fight the Fed. He is watching.

The news today was crazy, since the bombing on the weekend. Too much news, and too fast. Crazy. And now the war is over, maybe. Peace and safety. Peace and Harmony.

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Updated Mon, Jun 23 2025 6:58 PM EDT​
Trump announces Israel-Iran ceasefire timeline he says will end the war: Live updates
President Donald Trump has announced a ceasefire timeline he says will end the war between Israel and Iran.​
“On the assumption that everything works as it should, which it will, I would like to congratulate both Countries, Israel and Iran, on having the Stamina, Courage, and Intelligence to end, what should be called, “THE 12 DAY WAR,” Trump wrote on Truth Social.​
However neither Iran nor Israel has publicly confirmed they have accepted Trump’s ceasefire timeline.​
Earlier in the day, Trump thanked Iran for giving the United States advance notice of the coming missile strike on America’s Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar.​
The notice, he wrote on social media, “made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured.”​
That finding helped inform the U.S. Embassy in Doha’s decision to lift a shelter-in-place order issued ahead of the attack.​
Qatar reopened its civil airspace just six hours after the attack.​

(Trump is saying Peace and Harmony, while people are saying peace and safety)

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Follow in his Train

This one happened so fast that either of the two sides didn't each realize the war was over yet. Blink and you missed it.

"He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape. He shall become ruler of the treasures of gold and of silver, and all the precious things of Egypt, and the Libyans and the Cushites shall follow in his train.

Trumps got all these guys following him. These countries used to hate America's guts. The countries of North Africa. Now they follow in his train:

So far Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Yemen, and the Palestinian Authority have all condemned tonight’s ballistic missile attack by Iran against Al Udeid Airbase in Qatar.
2:56 PM · Jun 23, 2025



Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has CONDEMNED Iran’s missile strike on the U.S. Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar.
2:56 PM · Jun 23, 2025



Now they follow in his train.
 

Big Boy Johnson

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These countries used to hate America's guts.

Ha ha, don't kid yourself, they still hate America.

All they gotta do is play nice because they know Trump will be out of office in a few years

Each time we get a no nonsense POTUS, all other countries have to do is wait 4 years and it's back to business as usual.
 

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So far Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Yemen, and the Palestinian Authority have all condemned tonight’s ballistic missile attack by Iran against Al Udeid Airbase in Qatar.
2:56 PM · Jun 23, 2025


Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has CONDEMNED Iran’s missile strike on the U.S. Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar.
2:56 PM · Jun 23, 2025
"He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape. He shall become ruler of the treasures of gold and of silver, and all the precious things of Egypt, and the Libyans and the Cushites shall follow in his train.
Ha ha, don't kid yourself, they still hate America.

All they gotta do is play nice because they know Trump will be out of office in a few years

Each time we get a no nonsense POTUS, all other countries have to do is wait 4 years and it's back to business as usual.
They might hate him, but Trump has them in line. They are on the same page, following in his train. Egypt and Morocco too. Like never before.

Part of this is what I was trying to say about the Antichrist needing to rise up from the USA. The "earth" who helped the "woman" in Revelation 12, is the same "earth" in the next Chapter, where the Antichrist rises from. It wouldn't work if the Antichrists took over the President of Vietnam, or the Prime Minister of Canada.

Like when the other world leaders saw what the US just accomplished in that Iranian bombing run on it's nuclear bunker. No other nation on earth has the skills and equipment to do that. You know Putin and Xi were watching that and thinking yikes, don't fight the Fed. America is the most advanced nation on the planet, because we are a "place prepared by God", that helped the "woman", the early Christian Church.

Trump dropped a bomb of his own this morning, the F bomb. Lol.

 

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They might hate him, but Trump has them in line.

Not really, they're just going along to get along kinda like being on the job with a boss you hate and everyone does their best to play nice because for the time being they want to use him for their own needs.




You know Putin and Xi were watching that and thinking yikes

Actually China is seeking to duplicate all the the US has and can do as they have the communist mandate to achieve world domination and when the one world government gets here it will be modeled after China's government, not the US government.

The anti-christ is not going to be from the US so neither Trump or obama are the anti-christ as some are claiming.




Trump dropped a bomb of his own this morning, the F bomb. Lol.

One of numerous ways we know Trump is not a Christian.

Real Christians are led by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit never leads people to use foul language like that, but the devil sure does!
 

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"He shall stretch out his hand against the countries, and the land of Egypt shall not escape. He shall become ruler of the treasures of gold and of silver, and all the precious things of Egypt, and the Libyans and the Cushites shall follow in his train.
Trumps got all these guys following him. These countries used to hate America's guts. The countries of North Africa. Now they follow in his train:

So far Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey, Yemen, and the Palestinian Authority have all condemned tonight’s ballistic missile attack by Iran against Al Udeid Airbase in Qatar.
2:56 PM · Jun 23, 2025

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas has CONDEMNED Iran’s missile strike on the U.S. Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar.
2:56 PM · Jun 23, 2025



Now they follow in his train.
Steve Witkoff hints at 'big announcements' on more countries entering Abraham Accords

Steve Witkoff also said he was hopeful there would be a peace agreement with Iran, and that 'Iran is ready' to make a deal with the US

US Special Envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff hinted that the Trump administration would have "big announcements on countries that are coming into the Abraham Accords," according to an interview on CNBC.

In addition, Witkoff said he was hopeful there would be a peace agreement with Iran, and that "Iran is ready."

This comes in the wake of a 12-day war between Israel and Iran, during which the IDF and Mossad destroyed much of Iran's ballistic missile array and nuclear facilities. The US also took part before pushing for a ceasefire, striking the Fordow facility and other nuclear sites in Natanz and Isfahan.




Peace and Security

The Israeli Coalition for Regional Security, made up of over many senior officials, has launched a new billboard campaign calling for a regional alliance between Israel and its neighbors.

With the Iranian threat now pushed back from Saudi Arabia and the Gulf, this vision is closer than ever. Once the war in Gaza winds down, expect new alliances to start taking shape.


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They shall follow in his train.
 

Big Boy Johnson

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They shall follow in his train.

Not knowing that his train is still corrupt just like all other attempts to bring peace to the middle east has been.

They should get on the Jesus Train instead but sadly they all reject Jesus including Trump.

So sure there may be a little peace here and there which is always better than war, but let's not kid ourselves.

Until Jesus gets here and takes over management of this world, there will be NO peace!