Does Grace replace the law?

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I should add to my above reply that some teach that there are two gospels in the NT and therefore they cancel out the teachings of Jesus as for us- they say they are for the Jews only and that Peter taught a different gospel than Paul. They are "Paul" only"- but even if a person reads only Paul it's impossible to conclude what they do about obedience.
These teachers are against any repentance and also see a water baptism as a work.- saying Paul never taught either. Some say there is no such thing as sin now.

Also- I know of one person- I am unsure of the others here dismisses- sanctification, calling it "discipleship" instead so he does admit to a some sort of a response-- but then turns around with it is not necessary- calling it performance and claiming osas for those who have no fruits in their life and/ or denied Jesus until they died.

They go all haywire.
There are works of the law- we are not under the law.
but there are good works of love - faith working through love- and that love does not sin and loves others. That loves doesn't condone sin and that love encourages believers who may sin to repent. We are given the Spirit in order to deaden the evil works of the flesh. The spirit convicts us and we respond. This is an ongoing walk with the Lord.
oh yes my friend , some indeed try and act like there is no such thing as sin .
AS if , if a beleiver walked up and slapped someone upside his head , OH ITS NOT HIM SINNING .
Really . they dont even grasp romans seven at all .
But then again many dont grasp the most basic T ruth anymore .
Well ON THOSE F EET . the decievers take no time off deceiving and thus the sheep take no time off
to expose the works of darkness and to proclaim and speak TRUTH .
 
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oh yes my friend , some indeed try and act like there is no such thing as sin .
AS if , if a beleiver walked up and slapped someone upside his head , OH ITS NOT HIM SINNING .
Really . they dont even grasp romans seven at all .
But then again many dont grasp the most basic T ruth anymore .
Well ON THOSE F EET . the decievers take no time off deceiving and thus the sheep take no time off
to expose the works of darkness and to proclaim and speak TRUTH .
When I first read these things on this site I could hardly believe it. I am unaware of anyone who teaches those things although I know someone must, since there are several saying those things on here.
In my world- offline I have not heard those things from any Christian.
I don't know who sent them so off the rails. It hurts my heart because I do believe that they were misled by someone and were genuine people who believe in the Lord- but I fear for them. When they teach others those things it's very concerning.
 

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When I first read these things on this site I could hardly believe it. I am unaware of anyone who teaches those things although I know someone must, since there are several saying those things on here.
In my world- offline I have not heard those things from any Christian.
I don't know who sent them so off the rails. It hurts my heart because I do believe that they were misled by someone and were genuine people who believe in the Lord- but I fear for them. When they teach others those things it's very concerning.
there could be several reasons as to why YOU dont hear it so much in churches or when talking to others .
THE main move now is , LETS NOT WORRY about doctrines , let just hug and get along and have commnon ground .
BUT beleive me , MANY DO BELIEVE THESE THINGS .
ITS also why we have so many ideals flowing into christendom . cause its merging them .
With cliams all denominations serve GOD .
SO they bring their stuff with them . And no body really gonna strive about it .
Because the motto is , OH THAT IS MY TRUTH , YOU HAVE YOUR TRUTH , lets just hug and get along .
OH but beleive me , on a site it usually will be seen more .
Cause we type to one another. You are being kind my friend . I understand . i do .
BUT let me ask you something .
HOW COME you AINT BUYING INTO IT
HOW COME I aint buying into it . And why did they .
THIS is not meant to judge them . SOME people obviously just aint got the time
to enjoy the scriptures at all . and what scrips they do learn
WELL lets just say , WE SEE WHAT SEE HUH . men did this . WE need to simply bible up again .
Just enjoy reading it , be in prayer . YOU would marvel at how things can and could have been cleared up .
BUT so long as they dogmatically sit under their pastors doctrine , wont really read the bible for their own selves
adn if they do its a pslam here and there OR always through the lens of , YOU GOT IT their own pastors mindset and teachings .
 
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there could be several reasons as to why YOU dont hear it so much in churches or when talking to others .
THE main move now is , LETS NOT WORRY about doctrines , let just hug and get along and have commnon ground .
BUT beleive me , MANY DO BELIEVE THESE THINGS .
ITS also why we have so many ideals flowing into christendom . cause its merging them .
With cliams all denominations serve GOD .
SO they bring their stuff with them . And no body really gonna strive about it .
Because the motto is , OH THAT IS MY TRUTH , YOU HAVE YOUR TRUTH , lets just hug and get along .
OH but beleive me , on a site it usually will be seen more .
Cause we type to one another. You are being kind my friend . I understand . i do .
BUT let me ask you something .
HOW COME you AINT BUYING INTO IT
HOW COME I aint buying into it . And why did they .
THIS is not meant to judge them . SOME people obviously just aint got the time
to enjoy the scriptures at all . and what scrips they do learn
WELL lets just say , WE SEE WHAT SEE HUH . men did this . WE need to simply bible up again .
Just enjoy reading it , be in prayer . YOU would marvel at how things can and could have been cleared up .
BUT so long as they dogmatically sit under their pastors doctrine , wont really read the bible for their own selves
adn if they do its a pslam here and there OR always through the lens of , YOU GOT IT their own pastors mindset and teachings .
It is all in the scriptures no doubt. And what they do is cherry pick and ignore the rest. But to come up with 2 gospels to avoid truth that makes them uncomfortable is just plain crazy. I personally know of no pastors teaching those things. Do you know? I also know of no one who thinks that way other than on here..
There may be some for all I know, but they can't blame the preachers I'm speaking about. They aren't paying attention!
IMHO there still are some humble God-fearing pastors who try very hard to teach. I may not agree with everything, but I can't call them false teachers. Some things are yet future... and some things are confusing.
I suppose I could ask these people one here who taught them these things. I know that when I provide scriptures to show them mistaken- they either twist it, accuse or run. That's what the cults do. It causes a cognitive dissonance. I still want to help these folks straighten out but it's hard because they are convinced they're right and then accuse us of not being saved.
It's worrisome to me because so many crept up lately, and I'm just wondering if there's a new group out there teaching that..
I know there are the Joel Osteen's and such.. I know there have always been false teachers this Paul only or Paul is a deceiver and the 2 gospel thing is all new to me.
 

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As I have pointed out, Paul still taught Jews and Peter was involved with Gentiles. So, it is quite likely that your idea of apostleship is incorrect.
And now/today EVERYONE is the same.
Listing the verses, show where Matt, John, Peter are Apostle & Minister to :-
Gal 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Col 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all
 

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As I have pointed out, Paul still taught Jews and Peter was involved with Gentiles. So, it is quite likely that your idea of apostleship is incorrect.
The Judaisers hated Paul with a passion, and eventually this caused him to disengage from their retinue.

Act 18:1-11 After these things Paul departed from Athens and went to Corinth. (2) And he found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla (because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to depart from Rome); and he came to them. (3) So, because he was of the same trade, he stayed with them and worked; for by occupation they were tentmakers. (4) And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks. (5) When Silas and Timothy had come from Macedonia, Paul was compelled by the Spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ. (6) But when they opposed him and blasphemed, he shook his garments and said to them, "Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean. From now on I will go to the Gentiles." (7) And he departed from there and entered the house of a certain man named Justus, one who worshiped God, whose house was next door to the synagogue. (8) Then Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his household. And many of the Corinthians, hearing, believed and were baptized. (9) Now the Lord spoke to Paul in the night by a vision, "Do not be afraid, but speak, and do not keep silent; (10) for I am with you, and no one will attack you to hurt you; for I have many people in this city." (11) And he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them.
 

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It is all in the scriptures no doubt. And what they do is cherry pick and ignore the rest. But to come up with 2 gospels to avoid truth that makes them uncomfortable is just plain crazy. I personally know of no pastors teaching those things. Do you know? I also know of no one who thinks that way other than on here..
There may be some for all I know, but they can't blame the preachers I'm speaking about. They aren't paying attention!
IMHO there still are some humble God-fearing pastors who try very hard to teach. I may not agree with everything, but I can't call them false teachers. Some things are yet future... and some things are confusing.
I suppose I could ask these people one here who taught them these things. I know that when I provide scriptures to show them mistaken- they either twist it, accuse or run. That's what the cults do. It causes a cognitive dissonance. I still want to help these folks straighten out but it's hard because they are convinced they're right and then accuse us of not being saved.
It's worrisome to me because so many crept up lately, and I'm just wondering if there's a new group out there teaching that..
I know there are the Joel Osteen's and such.. I know there have always been false teachers this Paul only or Paul is a deceiver and the 2 gospel thing is all new to me.
You wrote something that stuck out to me my friend .
Now when i saw it i knew there was truth in it . You wrote you believe there are STILL some humble GOD fearing pastors .
Well i sure aint gonna say there is none .
But i am gonna ask , WHEN ITS THE LAST time you actually saw or heard one .
And not rather these love and unity talks , this inclusive talks , these judge not correct not talks .
OH i have no doubt there are still GOD fearing men . Its just gonna be hard to find them
In a LOT of t hese mainst ream churches . And i do mean A LOT .
and friend I AINT nitpicking when i say A LOT or when i say we gots many many false ones in wool that lead this people
to the day of their own destruction by the very GOD , who by their version of a false goodness and thus sensual love ,
DID NOT fear . In fact what it is that many of these men who run them pulpits fear is
TO STAND against sin , to take a stand for the TRUTH . They fear men my friend .
And more so a lot of them turned church time into a business . And
lets face it , TO KEEP the numbers and folks coming in , THINK cashflow please ,
WHY they adapted and changed with the times . Again this is not me judging or condemning them.
THEY DO THAT TO THEMSELVES .
 
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The Judaisers hated Paul with a passion, and eventually this caused him to disengage from their retinue.

Act 18:1-11 After these things Paul departed from Athens and went to Corinth. (2) And he found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla (because Claudius had commanded all the Jews to depart from Rome); and he came to them. (3) So, because he was of the same trade, he stayed with them and worked; for by occupation they were tentmakers. (4) And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded both Jews and Greeks. (5) When Silas and Timothy had come from Macedonia, Paul was compelled by the Spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus is the Christ. (6) But when they opposed him and blasphemed, he shook his garments and said to them, "Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean. From now on I will go to the Gentiles." (7) And he departed from there and entered the house of a certain man named Justus, one who worshiped God, whose house was next door to the synagogue. (8) Then Crispus, the ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his household. And many of the Corinthians, hearing, believed and were baptized. (9) Now the Lord spoke to Paul in the night by a vision, "Do not be afraid, but speak, and do not keep silent; (10) for I am with you, and no one will attack you to hurt you; for I have many people in this city." (11) And he continued there a year and six months, teaching the word of God among them.
Don’t stop reading there:

Act 18:19 And they came to Ephesus, and he left them there, but he himself went into the synagogue and reasoned with the Jews.

Act 19:8 And he entered the synagogue and for three months spoke boldly, reasoning and persuading them about the kingdom of God.
Act 19:9 But when some became stubborn and continued in unbelief, speaking evil of the Way before the congregation, he withdrew from them and took the disciples with him, reasoning daily in the hall of Tyrannus.
Act 19:10 This continued for two years, so that all the residents of Asia heard the word of the Lord, both Jews and Greeks.
 

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And now/today EVERYONE is the same.
Listing the verses, show where Matt, John, Peter are Apostle & Minister to :-
Gal 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 6:15
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
1 Cor 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Col 3:11
Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all
You’ve just completely undermined your whole position on the matter. It follows then that the gospel and teachings are the same for Jews and Greeks, whether they come from Matthew, John, Paul, or Peter. So, as Paul says, “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”
 
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If that's the argument they would not say what they do.
We agree that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus.
What is at issue is the response to that grace. The new creation.- regeneration
Some here do say no obedience or even loyalty is required after and call it, "performance" to try to keep yourself saved-
which then turns to into false allegations about how must believe that works save us- so we are not saved at all..

Whereas what we are saying is that obedience and loyalty are the result of salvation and proof of it.
We love because he first loved us.
If there is no obedience or a person turns away from the faith- living in all manner of sins and dies flat out denying Jesus- is that person saved? They say yes-
and we say either he was never truly saved to begin with or he fell away from the faith.-
"You shall know them by their fruits."
We are commanded to love one another- a person who lives in all manner of sins is not walking in love.
A person who denies Jesus is not a believer and is not abiding in HIM.
there is also confusion that the initial grace of justification is eternal salvation

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No one who has truly been the beneficiary of Gods saving grace desires to live in sin, no one. And no one who desires to live a sinless life has ever come close to doing so other than Christ.

I wish I could wrap my mind around why so much time is wasted debating these issues.
Love you handle Joe I am a redletter too have it on my signature. I agree a lot of arguing always about the topic but then you have to ask yourself why did Christ say this to Christians to me:
Matthew 7:22-23 (KJV) Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 

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There is God's grace for failure... on our part. It is giving us further opportunity. It is not for disregarding what God said. It is opportunity with God helping us to grow, that we do as we should. Love and compassion are not excluded.
 

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Why yes it IS my friend .
But i am often also HIGHLY AMAZED at what many call and many consider grace to be and to entail .
Any g race that preaches a mercy of GOD that does not include THE DIRE NECESSITY TO BELEIVE ON JESUS
is a grace only of anti christ .
And any g race that wont correct sin but rather panders to please man , OH YEAH it aint coming of GOD either .
 
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Also- I know of one person- I am unsure of the others here dismisses- sanctification, calling it "discipleship" i

In Heb 6:1 we find failed Christianity, revealed.
This verse shows us that the failed Christianity person, who is a Christian, or who is preteding to be one.........is confessing sin, repenting, and basically they are not able to come to the understanding that Salvation is What Christ has Completed on The Cross, 2000 yrs ago....= that is GIFTED to them, as "the GIFT OF Salvation".............once they give God their "Faith in Christ".
So, this noob, baby christain, is still not able to understand that their DISCIPLSHIP is not what Christ accomplished on The Cross 2000 yrs ago that is God's Salvation, that is the Blood Atonement, and the New Covenant.

Now, this noob, baby beliiever, who is often saved 15-50 yrs.......can not grasp that Jesus on The Cross is SALVATION.......and nothing else is Salvation.
Now, this infant believer, ...who has not grown an INCH in God's Grace......as to Grow in Gods grace is by Revelation KNOWLEDGE.. and not by DEEDS of Self Effort (Discipleship)........and so this one cannot understand that Jesus on the Cross, WHO is God's Salvation, is not their DISCIPLESHIP>.
But, there is hope that one day.........one fine day........this same person may wake up out of their self effort to try to save themselves, and realize that Jesus has already saved them, 2000 yrs ago.

And from that moment, they take their very first step into REAL DISCIPLSHIP< that understands that what they DO, is not their Salvation, its just their Disceipleship.

AND READER, Your Discikpleship cannont save you........and in fact, you can be a Religious water baptized person, and are on the way to Hell, and are an amazing disciple, and you believe you are a Christian, and you are not.

Why not?
= Because God does not accept Disciples, and God does not Create Disciples........God creates BORN AGAIN Christians, who then become disciples............good ones or not so good.
And of course the person that is ONLY THE Water Baptized DISCIPLE.......cannon understand what i just posted..

So, let me show you what Jesus teaches that is not about DISCIPLSHIP< but you must do it, if you want to go be forgiven all your sin, and not go to Hell when you die.

Jesus said........""You must be BORN again"., and discipleship has nothing to do with it.
 

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Now the Title of this Thread is.........

"Does Grace replace the LAW"...

And the answer is simple.

God's Grace takes the beleiver out from under the domimion of the Law, so that Moses Law can no longer define the born again, as a "sinner".

Like this.....>>"Christ is the END OF THE LAW.....for Righteousness... to/for everyone who BELIEVES"...

And This is because God's Grace now eternally defines the born again BELIEVER as : "the RIGHTEOUSNESS of GOD, in Christ".......a "new Creation".
Therefore, the "LAW" can no longer define any born again CHRISTian as anyting, because the born again "are not under the Law but under Grace".

This means that God's GRACE now defines them for Eternalithy as "In Christ'.....>"one with God"... "an Heir of God"... "Joint Heir with Jesus", and a "SAINT".......a "Brethren".......>"blood bought"......and "having Eternal Life".
 

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There is God's grace for failure... on our part. It is giving us further opportunity. It is not for disregarding what God said. It is opportunity with God helping us to grow, that we do as we should. Love and compassion are not excluded.
love and compassion are not excluded
but neither is REPENTANCE . see justification of sin is a declaration of all out rebellion AGAINST this GOD
who loves and desired their repentance .
SO oh yes love and compassion is defintely not excluded .
But any love , any compassion that allows sins upon another , WELL it aint love and it aint of GOD either .
For it is well written
that you shall NOT hate , as in NOT HATE your neighbor in your heart
but you shall CORRECT HIM and not allow sin upon him . so much for seeker friendly love
it allowed sins to remain upon them , and now they even allow UNBELEIF in the false religons to remain upon them
by saying WE ALL serve the same GOD . When leaven cometh in and is not corrected
ITS GONNA Leaven the WHOLE lump . And that is exactly what it is doing
in all these churches that wont correct sins .
TILL now they hatred has grown as has their love grown .
THEIR LOVE for sin and hatred for THE words of GOD that expose sin . I hope this encouraged you my friend .
 

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In Heb 6:1 we find failed Christianity, revealed.
This verse shows us that the failed Christianity person, who is a Christian, or who is preteding to be one.........is confessing sin, repenting, and basically they are not able to come to the understanding that Salvation is What Christ has Completed on The Cross, 2000 yrs ago....= that is GIFTED to them, as "the GIFT OF Salvation".............once they give God their "Faith in Christ".
So, this noob, baby christain, is still not able to understand that their DISCIPLSHIP is not what Christ accomplished on The Cross 2000 yrs ago that is God's Salvation, that is the Blood Atonement, and the New Covenant.

Now, this noob, baby beliiever, who is often saved 15-50 yrs.......can not grasp that Jesus on The Cross is SALVATION.......and nothing else is Salvation.
Now, this infant believer, ...who has not grown an INCH in God's Grace......as to Grow in Gods grace is by Revelation KNOWLEDGE.. and not by DEEDS of Self Effort (Discipleship)........and so this one cannot understand that Jesus on the Cross, WHO is God's Salvation, is not their DISCIPLESHIP>.
But, there is hope that one day.........one fine day........this same person may wake up out of their self effort to try to save themselves, and realize that Jesus has already saved them, 2000 yrs ago.

And from that moment, they take their very first step into REAL DISCIPLSHIP< that understands that what they DO, is not their Salvation, its just their Disceipleship.

AND READER, Your Discipleship can nont save you........and in fact, you can be a Religious water baptized person, and are on the way to Hell, and are an amazing disciple, and you believe you are a Christian, and you are not.

Why not?
= Because God does not accept Disciples, and God does not Create Disciples........God creates BORN AGAIN Christians, who then become disciples............good ones or not so good.
And of course the person that is ONLY THE Water Baptized DISCIPLE.......cannon understand what i just posted..

So, let me show you what Jesus teaches that is not about DISCIPLSHIP< but you must do it, if you want to go be forgiven all your sin, and not go to Hell when you die.

Jesus said........""You must be BORN again"., and discipleship has nothing to do with it.
h Behold- As usual, you ignore the actual point being made. Once again-
NO ONE denies we are saved by faith in Jesus!
What the problem is it that you consistently say that performance after does not matter.
Yes, we are saved and we are in the active present also being saved and we will be saved.
This is where you get stuck on the milk, Behold. The milk is vital, but there is meat and life after justification that DOES MATTER. It is the evidence of our faith- our justification.
You consistently deny this by saying nothing you do after matters.. Sure it does. . Do you suppose that a brother who is forgiven many sins who goes off and doesn't forgive his brother some sin - will not be severely punished? Is this too pre-cross for you and thereby ignored by you? I sure hope not.
Matthew 18

21Then Peter came and said to Him, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” 22Jesus said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.
23“For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. 24“When he had begun to settle them, one who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him. 25“But since he did not have the means to repay, his lord commanded him to be sold, along with his wife and children and all that he had, and repayment to be made. 26“So the slave fell to the ground and prostrated himself before him, saying, ‘Have patience with me and I will repay you everything.’ 27“And the lord of that slave felt compassion and released him and forgave him the debt. 28“But that slave went out and found one of his fellow slaves who owed him a hundred denarii; and he seized him and began to choke him, saying, ‘Pay back what you owe.’ 29“So his fellow slave fell to the ground and began to plead with him, saying, ‘Have patience with me and I will repay you.’ 30“But he was unwilling and went and threw him in prison until he should pay back what was owed. 31“So when his fellow slaves saw what had happened, they were deeply grieved and came and reported to their lord all that had happened. 32“Then summoning him, his lord said to him, ‘You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33‘Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?’ 34“And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him.
35My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart.”
 

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You’ve just completely undermined your whole position on the matter. It follows then that the gospel and teachings are the same for Jews and Greeks, whether they come from Matthew, John, Paul, or Peter. So, as Paul says, “All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.”
Undermines only when fail to RIGHTLY DIVIDE
Unlike back in Gal 2:7-9 today ALL are equal and saved only by the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 Gospel taught by only Paul.
 

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Undermines only when fail to RIGHTLY DIVIDE
Unlike back in Gal 2:7-9 today ALL are equal and saved only by the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 Gospel taught by only Paul.
Speaking of failing to rightly divide, there is zero difference between “back in Gal 2:7-9” and “today.” There is no dividing line between the two. There always has been only one gospel, taught by Jesus, Paul, Peter, and the rest.
 
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