Many Say ‘Just Believe’… But What Did Jesus Actually Teach?

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amigo de christo

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Sorry love Yeshua, but faith alone is enough. what you fail to understand is what jesus said:

John 3:16​

King James Version​

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 3:36​

King James Version​

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

See it is this. Faith does not produce obedience and godly works. Faith produces a new life that is being transformed in to the very likeness of Jesus and it is this transformation that produces the works that please god.
TRUE FAITH ALONE IS ENOUGH .
but for that defintion i suggest we learn the bible .
Because if ones faith be in men that omit and twist his teachings and the teachings of the apostels
Believe you me they faith IS IN MEN , NOT GOD .
You see true faith entials WE ACTUALLY BELEIVE GOD . And GOD is not in the business
of praising and rejocing in DIS OBEDIANCE .
IN fact if we t ake a peek at abraham i can easily sum HIS TRUE FAITH UP for all t osee .
GOD said something , abraham beleived GOD and thus OBEYED GOD .
True faith and obediance , just like love and obediance IS NOT seperate .
IF YE LOVED ME YOU WOULD KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS .
This used to be a real simple walk , TILL MANY MEN screwed the whole thing up .
 

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shoehorn master too!

acts 10:35 those who perform works of righteousness are accepted

this refers to sanctification and perseverance after we received the free gift of justification but required for salvation

it does not say those who believe with faith alone and do not perform the works of righteousness are accepted or saved

Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

mt 7:14 narrow road leads to life
it sure does not say those who believe with faith alone and do not perform the works of righteousness are either accepted
OR saved .
For more info on that TRUE FAITH does save .
BUT TRUE FAITH is all linked to WHO and what WE BELIEVE and follow and obey .
Abraham , now that man had faith .
You see GOD spoke , ABRAHAM beleived GOD , and abraham obeyed GOD .
For an example of no faith yet lip service faith
HERES one .
GOD SPOKE and told israel , GO YE INTO the p romised land
and fear not the cannanites , amorites , perizites , the peoples of the land .
FOR I WILL DRIVE THEM OUT BEFORE YOU .
However upon checking it out
THEY NO LONGER BELEIVED GOD , they feared the men and thus THEY RAN and gave a false report of that land .
THEY DID Not BELEIVE what GOD had told them . Notice however they didnt say OH WE DONT BELIEVE IN GOD
they just didnt BELIEVE HIM and thus didnot obey him .
AND guess who most of israel believed . IT WASNT GOD . GOD TOLD THEM it was a land flowing with milk and honey
BUT they now believed these men that said it was a poor land . AGAIN UNBELIEF .
Though many have surely tried to seperate faith from obediance , love from obediance .
THEY FAIL . IF YE LOVED ME YOU WOULD HAVE KEPT MY COMMANDMENTS .
Many prefer acryonms and bad doctriens of men rather than TO SIMPLY BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN .
 
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see baptism is required!
acts 10:35

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

thks
And notice some of the last words JESUS gave to HIS own shortly before HE ascended back up from whence had had come .
GO YE INTO ALL the world and preach the gospel baptizing them in the name of the FATHER , SON and HOLY GHOST
and TEACHING THEM to ...................wait for it ..........................................
teaching them to ........................................................
TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS i have commanded you . TO DO THEM . A doing action .
TO teach them to do to observe all , not some , not even most , buT ALL things i have taught you .
Just a friendly reminder to us all . OH and here is my usual reminder . BIBLE TIME n the building . let us learn afresh
and anew the T RUTH for ourselves . cause sadly most no longer teach it
and at best and at most teach doctrines of men as though they are the precepts of GOD HIMSELF .
and worse their doctrines actually OM IT THINGS HE SAID TO DO . so yeah , ITS NOT looking good at all in these last hours
 
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see baptism is required!
acts 10:35

47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

thks
did you know we also have people who teach that one cannot actually and does not actually
receive the HOLY SPIRIT , TILL AFTER they recieve water baptism . again its quite obvious that is not correct .
HOWEVER i say WE DO as the early church did . AND PETER KNEW the dire importance for to keep
the things JESUS had taught him and told him to do . SO they were water baptized .
We just have to watch out for men . so many twist things on both sides and sadly they do so unto
their own destruction too .
And like i warned mail man dan and i now warn and remind you and all .
WARNING , AMBERT ALERT for it will cost you your soul if one remains in ECUMEINCAL INTERFAITH .
IT BE LEADING THEM ALL TO THE LIE . TO the KING LIE OF UNBELEIF .
oh yes it surely has LIED TO THEM ALL . and its peace be not OF GOD
as they THINK it is .
NO PEACE OF GOD would ever have done what this call for world peace interfaith interrelgious dialgoue did
FOR NO PEACE OF GOD WOULD EVER NEGATE THE FACT ONE MUST ACTUALLY BELIEVE ON JESUS .
NO , THE PEACE PLAN OF GOD , WAS AND IS JESUS , for by faith in HIM can and only can a man have PEACE WITH GOD .
 
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I don't accept the five sola's

they can't be shoehorned into scripture

scripture contradicts all of them

Christ alone?

please explain

1 tim 2:1
I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

James 5:16
The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

thks
I could explain it to you until I'm blue in the face, but you are unable to see anything beyond your Roman Catholic church indoctrination. :(
 

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there is only water baptism

Jn 3:5 water and the spirit

I have shown that water baptism makes us members of Christ and His church. (body)

the only person I know of in scripture that actually received spirit baptism with sanctification is John Lk 1:15

thks
You have shown me no such thing. I have shown you that Spirit baptism (1 Corinthians 12:13) makes us members of Christ and His church (body). Matthew 3:11 - As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Two separate baptisms, yet there is only one baptism that makes us members of the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.
 

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shoehorn master too!

acts 10:35 those who perform works of righteousness are accepted

this refers to sanctification and perseverance after we received the free gift of justification but required for salvation

it does not say those who believe with faith alone and do not perform the works of righteousness are accepted or saved

Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

mt 7:14 narrow road leads to life
You are the master of confusing 'descriptive' passages of scripture with 'prescriptive' passages of scripture. What I shared with you in post #199 was spot on but sadly, you just don't have ears to hear. Again, God accepts those who fear Him and work righteousness from a right principle, and to a right end, yet their fear of Him and working righteousness are not the origin of their acceptance; (Titus 3:5) but are to be considered as 'descriptive' of the persons, who are accepted by Him in Christ. (1 John 3:7-10) Those who have been justified by faith now enter sanctification and perseverance, along with fearing God and working righteousness/does what it right confirms authentic faith.

Faith that trusts in Jesus Christ alone for salvation (Ephesians 2:5-9) results in the believer being made alive together with Christ and the believer is created in Christ Jesus for good works (Ephesians 2:10) which follow conversion as the fruit of salvation but not the root of it. Performing works of righteousness afterwards confirms authentic faith. Performing no works confirms a dead faith. (James 2:14-24)

In regard to Jude 1:21, keep yourselves in the love of God is supplemented with three participles of means in the original, which answers the question, "How does one keep himself in the love of God?" By building yourselves up in your most holy faith; by praying in the Holy Spirit; and by looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life. The word "keep" means to attend to carefully, take care of, guard. It does not mean keep yourself saved, as you imply. Jude starts off in verse 1 with - Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, To those who are called, sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ: In Psalm 37:28, we read - For the Lord loves justice, And does not forsake His saints; They are preserved forever, But the descendants of the wicked shall be cut off.

In regard to Matthew 7:14, the narrow road that leads to life is faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. Either we are trusting 100% in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation or else we are 100% lost. It does not get any narrower than that. ✝️
 

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acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

how can you say you believe in Him if you reject mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved!

Jn 19: 34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water.

thks
Yes, whoever believes in Him receives remission of sins. (Acts 10:43) These Gentiles in Acts 10 believed, received the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit along with the spiritual gift of tongues (which is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved before water baptism. (Acts 10:47) How can you say you believe in Him when you also believe in your baptism? Whatever we are believing in for salvation, that is what we are trusting in for salvation. To trust in baptism for salvation is to say that Jesus is not enough, and more is required.

It logically follows that we get water baptized after we believe and are saved, but if someone is on their death bed and cannot get baptized before death, they are still saved because they BELIEVED (John 3:18; Acts 10:43; Romans 1:16) which is in harmony with Mark 16:16(b)..but he who does not believe will be condemned. *NOWHERE does the Bible say, "water baptized or condemned."

Certainly, water baptism is an important act of obedience. Anyone professing to believe in Jesus for salvation and yet refusing to be water baptized is of questionable sincerity. It's unthinkable that anyone who truly believes the gospel would refuse to be water baptized. I personally could not wait to get water baptized after my conversion and I cannot think of one Christian that I know who has refused to be water baptized after their conversion.

Baptism would have no meaning without Christ’s death, burial and resurrection, but Christ’s death, burial and resurrection would still have meaning, even if there were no baptism. In other words, Christ’s death is the substance and baptism is the sign/symbol/picture. Without the substance there would be no sign/symbol/picture.

Baptism put it in it's proper place, subsequent to salvation through faith in Christ as all works must be. Baptism is for believers, and believers are already saved the moment that they place their faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. The Bible says we are saved by grace through faith, not by rites or religious works, or good works (Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9). Now this does not remove good works/acts of obedience (including water baptism) from the Christian life, it just puts them in their proper place, subsequent to regeneration and salvation.
 

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see baptism is required!
acts 10:35
Required for what? Water baptism "follows" salvation. (Acts 10:43-48)
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
The evidence is overwhelming that these Gentles believed, received the gift of the Holy Spirit, spoke in tongues (which is a spiritual gift that is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism. Certain Jews may have wanted to forbid these Gentiles from being baptized because of their unacceptance of the Gentiles, but Peter clearly states that SURELY NO ONE CAN REFUSE. These Gentiles were clearly SAVED BEFORE WATER BAPTISM, and the Holy Spirit was proof of this. (Romans 8:9; 1 John 4:13)
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

thks
Baptized AFTER they believed in Him, received remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit along with the spiritual gift of tongues (which is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism.
 
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Required for what? Water baptism "follows" salvation. (Acts 10:43-48)

The evidence is overwhelming that these Gentles believed, received the gift of the Holy Spirit, spoke in tongues (which is a spiritual gift that is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism. Certain Jews may have wanted to forbid these Gentiles from being baptized because of their unacceptance of the Gentiles, but Peter clearly states that SURELY NO ONE CAN REFUSE. These Gentiles were clearly SAVED BEFORE WATER BAPTISM, and the Holy Spirit was proof of this. (Romans 8:9; 1 John 4:13)

Baptized AFTER they believed in Him, received remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit along with the spiritual gift of tongues (which is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism.
correct baptism is for the saved ones , not the unsaved . Faith cometh first . you are correct my friend .
Dan , you need to get as far as you can
from this false agenda of these religoins uniting for ANY cause . IT IS a snare . Its a snare my friend .
I tried to warn us . Stop encouraging it . We need no part in it .
They , as their father , always try and make it seem like a good thing for a necessary cause .
ITS how it works my friend . OH says they , we have to come be one for world peace. DO not buy it .
IT is a snare .
 

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Required for what? Water baptism "follows" salvation. (Acts 10:43-48)

The evidence is overwhelming that these Gentles believed, received the gift of the Holy Spirit, spoke in tongues (which is a spiritual gift that is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism. Certain Jews may have wanted to forbid these Gentiles from being baptized because of their unacceptance of the Gentiles, but Peter clearly states that SURELY NO ONE CAN REFUSE. These Gentiles were clearly SAVED BEFORE WATER BAPTISM, and the Holy Spirit was proof of this. (Romans 8:9; 1 John 4:13)

Baptized AFTER they believed in Him, received remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit along with the spiritual gift of tongues (which is ONLY for the body of Christ - 1 Corinthians 12) and were saved BEFORE water baptism.
i must simply speak plainly . Mail man dan
if you are in support of these so called muslims , jews and christains
merging as one , You have zero idea what is really going on my friend .
And i have to be real straightforward now so as you can clearly understand
the danger you are in and by your supporting this , YOU endanger others too .
WE got to get out and exit from all of this mail man dan and NOW .
The devil is using any means available to simply get the religoins to come to gether and find common ground .
And while the left does it in support of palestine , bud he is using the right to do the same agenda but in support of israel .
YES DAN . YES . I know and understand this is gonna sting a bit . Good medicine always does .
You have got to flee all hope in the DJT , the left has got to flee all its hopes in its leaders too .
WE GOTTA PREACH JESUS . THAT IS THE PLAN OF GOD , TO PREACH JESUS , not anti christ interfaith by which
JESUS HAS CLEARLY BEEN DENIED . We gotta simply preach JESUS while there is still time to do so .
MANY are already , and i mean IN ALL religoins as well as christendom , BELIEVING THE LIE that will merge them all
AS ONE . now the false religoins already beleived a lie . BUT THIS BE THE LIE
in which to MERGE the decieved to be as one . Dan you gotta pray FOR DONALD TRUMP
BUT you cannot follow him . PRAY he repents , pray they all do . BUT DO NOT HOPE in a one of them .
HOPE T HOU IN GOD , IN CHRIST ALONE .
 
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TRUE FAITH ALONE IS ENOUGH .
but for that defintion i suggest we learn the bible .
Because if ones faith be in men that omit and twist his teachings and the teachings of the apostels
Believe you me they faith IS IN MEN , NOT GOD .
You see true faith entials WE ACTUALLY BELEIVE GOD . And GOD is not in the business
of praising and rejocing in DIS OBEDIANCE .
IN fact if we t ake a peek at abraham i can easily sum HIS TRUE FAITH UP for all t osee .
GOD said something , abraham beleived GOD and thus OBEYED GOD .
True faith and obediance , just like love and obediance IS NOT seperate .
IF YE LOVED ME YOU WOULD KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS .
This used to be a real simple walk , TILL MANY MEN screwed the whole thing up .
My brother, you tend to post very negative answers most of the time. Yes there is much evil in teh world and in the church.
But we are walking living Epistles that should radiate joy and share the love of Jesus. As the old saying goes, the best way to deal with enemies, is to convert them to friends. We know the world will get more and more evil and darker, but that should only cause us to rejoice more and more while we pray and mourn for the lost
 
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There is only one baptism that saves and places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 - ..one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37-39 for the word drink(s) and see the connection with the Holy Spirit.
acts 2:38 has two baptisms

repent and be baptized (1) 1st spirit baptism, and you will receive the Holy Spirit (2) 2nd baptism

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Nothing here about suffering for his sake in order to obtain salvation.

In regard to Acts 10:34-35, working righteousness is the result of having been saved through faith. We are not saved by works of righteousness which we have done (Titus 3:5) but works of righteousness in connection with salvation are the fruit of, not the means of obtaining salvation. God accepts those who fear Him and work righteousness from a right principle, and to a right end, yet their fear of Him and working righteousness are not the origin of their acceptance; but are to be considered as descriptive of the persons, who are accepted by Him in Christ.

We must not confuse "descriptive" passages of scripture (Acts 10:35) with "prescriptive" passages of scripture (Acts 10:43). We are to rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:15) The question here is whether God's favor is made available to Jews only or is now available to Gentiles also (those in every nation who fear Him and work righteousness/does what is right) which Peter learned in his vision in Acts 10.
phil 1:29
For unto you it is given in the behalf of Christ, not only to believe on him, but also to suffer for his sake;


1) two things cannot be faith alone!

2) if faith has reference to salvation then so does suffering for Christ!

Romans 8:17
And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

2 Timothy 2:12
If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

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Are these men infallible? Are their writings inspired by God? Are the writings of the Council of Trent inspired Scripture?
apostolic councils are binding on all christians mt 16:18-19 & 18:18

Christ expects us to believe them scince they are His witnesses acts 1:8

apostles are God breathed Jn 20:21-23 and have authority in oral teaching, some of them like Christ only taught in person never wrote anything

the only new testament canon of scripture is from the apostolic church in the council of rome 381-2 under papal authority with 73 books

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Are these men infallible? Are their writings inspired by God? Are the writings of the Council of Trent inspired Scripture?
the scripture has more than one plausible meaning, more than one meaning of scripture opposes the doctrine of the "bible alone" or the bible is the only authority, so there must be a teacher of authentic truth, there can only be one truth!

Christ established the apostolic church mt 16:18 and commanded them to teach and sanctify all men!
mt 28:19

2) acts 2:38

Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

meaning one: the baptism is in the name of Jesus

meaning two: the command to be baptized is in the name of Jesus

which is authentic and how do you know?

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Again, Mark 16:16 - He who believes and is baptized will be saved (general cases without making a qualification for the unusual case of someone who believes but is not baptized) but he who does not believe will be condemned. The omission of baptized with "does not believe" shows that Jesus does not make baptism absolutely required for salvation. Condemnation rests on unbelief and not on a lack of baptism. *NOWHERE does the Bible say, "baptized or condemned."

If water baptism is absolutely required for salvation, then we would expect Jesus to mention it in the following verses. (3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26) Yet what is the ONE requirement that Jesus mentions NINE different times in each of these complete statements *BELIEVES. *What happened to baptism? *Hermeneutics.

John 3:18 - He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who (is not water baptized? - NO) does not believe is condemned already, because he has not (been water baptized? - NO) because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

If you don't believe in the existence of Jesus Christ (atheist) then you won't be water baptized yet there have been numerous people over the years (especially those in various false religions and cults) who have been water baptized but did not truly believe in Jesus unto salvation and reject faith without even realizing it. Now such people may have believed "mental assent" in the existence of Jesus Christ and in certain historical facts about Jesus Christ, but they did not believe in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation but instead were trusting in the work of water baptism for salvation.

Now such people go on to be water baptized anyway because they are trusting in water baptism for salvation. I know first-hand because I used to be one of them. Upon coming to believe the gospel later on, many people have been re-baptized (including myself) and this time it was "believers" baptism. If you can believe that EVERYONE who has ever been water baptized and "claims" to be a Christian truly was a born again Christian when they received water baptism, then you can believe anything and are extremely naive.

It don't say whoever is not baptized will not be saved. If he who believes will be saved (John 3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26) then he who believes and is baptized will be saved as well. However, it's the lack of belief which causes condemnation and not the lack of baptism.

I'm not deleting anything. I am properly harmonizing scripture with scripture before reaching my conclusion on doctrine in order to avoid contradictions. You seem to be okay with contradictions as long as your pet doctrine is upheld.

While Mark 16:16 tells us something about believers who have been baptized (they will be saved), it does not say anything about believers who have not been baptized. In order for this verse to teach that baptism is necessary for salvation, a third statement would be necessary, “He who believes and is not baptized will be condemned” or “He who is not baptized will be condemned.” But, of course, neither of these statements is found in the verse.

By one Spirit and not by H20.

Romans 5:1 - Therefore, having been justified by faith, (apart from additions or modifications, hence, faith alone) we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace you have been saved through faith, (apart from additions or modifications, hence, faith alone) and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.

*The opposite of faith alone would be justified and saved by/through faith and works, but that is NOT what Paul said. Simple!
Matthew 24:35
Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Mk 16:16 he who believes and is baptized shall be saved

acts 8:35-38

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

why does not philip say baptism is meaningless and unnecessary to a believer who has eternal salvation by faith alone?

how does the eunuch know about the necessity of baptismal regeneration unless the apostle taught him?

eph 2 does not refer to your personal salvation we can discuss it!
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rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

((walking refers to the performance of deeds))


Gal 6:7-8

7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

((sowing refers to the performance of deeds))

Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

((to live according to the flesh or according to Spirit refers to to the performance of deeds))

It impossible to walk, sow, or live without deeds!

The rightous walk, sow, & live by the deeds of the Spirit!


what are the deeds of the Spirit?

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acts 2:38 has two baptisms

repent and be baptized (1) 1st spirit baptism, and you will receive the Holy Spirit (2) 2nd baptism

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One baptism does not mean that only one baptism has ever existed. In Matthew 3:11, we see a clear distinction between water baptism and Spirit baptism. We also see fire. Elsewhere, in Luke 12:50, Jesus said, "But I have a baptism with which to be baptized, and how I am distressed until it should be accomplished!" Of course Jesus was not distressed about water baptism, but being "immersed" into suffering, namely His sacrificial death on the cross.

Again, there is only one baptism that saves and places us into the body of Christ and that is Spirit baptism, not water baptism.

Ephesians 4:5 - ..one Lord, one faith, one baptism.

1 Corinthians 12:13 - For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit. *Also see John 4:10,14; 7:37-39 for the word drink(s) and see the connection with the Holy Spirit.