Do you like, dislike, or are neutral on Israel?

RepentingChristian said:

Do you like, dislike, or are neutral on Israel?

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I think that is the wrong question. I can dislike lots of people's behavior and beliefs; but I'm supposed to love them regardless.
I drove six Rabbis from the airport to the Fairfax District in LA. They weren't friendly, very serious, no smiles, would not talk to me unless I spoke to them. No joy of the Lord. Did I like them? No. But here is the issue. God told to love them.
" I will bless them who bless you and curse them who curse you". Weare to over look their hatred towards Gentiles. Read Romans 11. They are blind but soon a remnant will see ( 1/3).
That said, the Iranian terrorist regime needed to be destroyed.

Taken said:

Do you like, dislike, or are neutral on Israel?

Israel …Spiritually…IS Gods People.
I love all of Gods People…
Some individuals, (Gods People or not), I do not like.

Glory to God,
Taken

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yeah , not all of israel IS OF ISRAEL . and the only way to be A SPIRITUAL CHILD OF GOD
IS BY FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
the children of the flesh are NOT the children of GOD . now if that lattter statement i just made
sounds like hate speech
THEN take it up with PUAL who was born a jew and came to JESUS
and wrote and said THESE are NOT the children of GOD . yeah i would not heed john haggee or scores of others either .
THEY have hatred for the jews , THOUGH they think its love .
ALLOWING them to REMAIN In UNBELIEF , AINT LOVE , its but being a co helper to death and not LIFE .
OH yeah
ITS JESUS Preaching time in the b u ilding . THAT BE WHO I POINT TOO
and none can stop me either . Better to join and let us begin to really POINT TO JESUS , both to the jew and to the gentile .
And lets make it a fast process too , cause it dont look like much TIME is left either .

lforrest said:

My tacit support for Israel is not a matter of likes or dislikes. But of God's faithfulness and evidence of his blessings upon Israel, and curses upon her enemies.

Not to mention that as Christians we shouldn't yield to evil spirits that hate the Jews.

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we surely SHOULD NOT YIELD to evil spirits that hate jews . SPOT ON RIGHT .
So why come so many are yielding to interfaith interreglious dialgoue
CLIAMING THAT ALL SERVE the same GOD we do .
WOW that dont sound like loving anyone . not a jew or a gentile to allow them
to remain AS IS in UNBELEIF of CHRIST .
man i gotta say that aint love , nor is it THE LOVE OF GOD .
HIS LOVE POINTED TO JESUS
Not to do as thou wilt and it dont matter what or who ya beleive . that sounds like an anti christ .
THEY wont POINT them TO JESUS and they lie to them all
jews , muslims , hindus , christains and act like we all serving the same GOD in different ways .
KINDA odd dont ya think .
SEEING THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO GOD , and his name darn sure aint allah or muhammed or any other .
HIS NAME . Please allow this glorified in troduction of THIS SAVOIR .
HIS NAME , THE ONE the ONLY way TO GOD , the great high preist , the savoir of our souls
the reedemer of man , the only HOPE one has
THE ONE the ONLY KING of kings and LORD of LORDS
the VERY WORD OF GOD
KING JESUS . and to be sav ed , YEP , THEY GOTS TO BELEIVE HE IS THE CHRIST . man it always
brings such joy to POINT TO and ONLY TOO JESUS THE CHRIST . man i feel like dancing . i sure hope we all do the same .

RepentingChristian said:

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ps , dont vote for him either . I got serious news for us all
FLEE the politics , f lee the ecumeincal and run to and hope in and only in CHRIST JESUS and let us return to the scriptures .

lforrest said:

My tacit support for Israel is not a matter of likes or dislikes. But of God's faithfulness and evidence of his blessings upon Israel, and curses upon her enemies.

Not to mention that as Christians we shouldn't yield to evil spirits that hate the Jews.

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notice WHEN the blessing came upon ISRAEL
and notice WHEN the curses came .
When israel was doing good , many blessings . When israel heeded the voices of the prophets of GOD
all was well .
NOT SO WELL when israel became rebellious .
SO now lets see . what is about to come upon this world and israel and her jerusalem .
WELL lets see , JESUS IS REJECTED
and not just by many jews
but many gentiles
and worse EVEN MUCH of christendom .
SO i would not expect a blessing my friend . Rather a delsuion that is gonna bring them and this world
TO ITS OWN destruction .
Just like it has before . SO on that note
WHO you THINK we should be honoring . GOD
And beleive you me when i say , if one honors NOT THE SON , THEY DO NOT HONOR THE FATHER .
if we loved the jews , if we loved peoples
WE HAD POINTED TO JESUS and not rather tried to make the road to GOD so darn broad and inclusive . not gonna bode well .

amigo de christo said:

yeah , not all of israel IS OF ISRAEL .

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The question implied in support of a Nation.
Israel is both a Nation and an Ethnic People and a mixture of People who live in that nation who are, primarily…Spiritually Jews, Christians, and Muslims.

and the only way to be A SPIRITUAL CHILD OF GOD
IS BY FAITH IN JESUS THE CHRIST .

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I am confidant the Lord God Himself has your dilemma of who’s who already solved, and will reveal the Big Picture in due time.

THEN take it up with PUAL who was born a jew

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Actually…PAUL was born of a Gentile father and Roman citizen like his father, and went by SAUL in his youth being raised by his Jewish mothers Religion.

yeah i would not heed john haggee or scores of others either .
THEY have hatred for the jews , THOUGH they think its love .

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Different Topic.

Glory to God,
Taken

One thing I hate about Israel, is how many people think they know what Israel should be doing!

A poll released this week shows that more than half of Americans believe that President Donald Trump launched the war with Iran in order to distract from the Jeffrey Epstein files.

A poll from the left-wing website Zeteo found that 52% of those surveyed believe that the president launched military strikes against Iran because of the flood of headlines about Epstein.

About 40% don't think Trump was motivated to start the war as a distraction from his Epstein problem.

The Barbarian said:

A poll released this week shows that more than half of Americans believe that President Donald Trump launched the war with Iran in order to distract from the Jeffrey Epstein files.

A poll from the left-wing website Zeteo found that 52% of those surveyed believe that the president launched military strikes against Iran because of the flood of headlines about Epstein.

Shock poll: Most Americans say Trump started Iran war to distract from this issue

White House calls the survey “a ridiculous take.”

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About 40% don't think Trump was motivated to start the war as a distraction from his Epstein problem.

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How stupid could one be to make that claim ! the good old idiot propaganda machine working once again !

A poll from the left-wing website Zeteo found that 52% of those surveyed believe that the president launched military strikes against Iran because of the flood of headlines about Epstein.

Reggie Belafonte said:

How stupid could one be to make that claim !

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Let's see...
In 2012 and 2013, Trump repeatedly insinuated that then-President Barack Obama would start a war with Iran to shore up his re-election effort and to distract from his supposed faults as a leader.

Obama never did attack Iran. That cannot be said for Trump, who has now attacked the Middle Eastern republic three times during across his two terms in office.

It's true that Donald Trump isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he clearly saw such an attack as a way to distract the public from problems. And accordingly, as the public becomes more and more concerned about his relationship and activities with Epstein, it's not surprising that he'd resort to the same thing he predicted Obama would do.

Reggie Belafonte said:

the good old idiot propaganda machine working once again !

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Yep. Trump probably forgot that he described perfectly what the attack on Iran was really about.

I dislike how much influence they have in American politics. I don't oppose Israel existing as a country, however.

I like Israel. It is where Jesus is born, after-all.
However, liking Israel does not mean that I condone Israel waging wars on other nations.

chongshipei said:

I like Israel. It is where Jesus is born, after-all.
However, liking Israel does not mean that I condone Israel waging wars on other nations.

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They occasionally spit on Christians as they visit.

Riven said:

I dislike how much influence they have in American politics. I don't oppose Israel existing as a country, however.

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How can you separate the two? They became a nation through manipulating governments and terrorism. And their short term goal is to have control over the middle east at any cost. I definitely oppose them existing as a country for those reasons.

Luther7 said:

How can you separate the two? They became a nation through manipulating governments and terrorism. And their short term goal is to have control over the middle east at any cost. I definitely oppose them existing as a country for those reasons.

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I'm able to separate them by reminding myself that Israel is a nation that has it's own interests. Their ability to influence American politics to the extent that they do, is not because Israel exists. It is because America itself has laws on the books that allow it.

Take AIPAC for example. They don't have to register under FARA because they're not Israeli and they're not taking money from Israel. They're Americans, many of them Christian Zionists, that aggressively pursue the Israeli national interests and strategic goals in the region. Often at the expense of American national interests.

Finally, I think in order to solve this problem, Americans must completely decouple lobbying from politics. Which is another way of saying get money out of politics. But like with congressional term limits, Congress has very little interest in reform that puts any kind of limit on their power.

Riven said:

I'm able to separate them by reminding myself that Israel is a nation that has it's own interests. Their ability to influence American politics to the extent that they do, is not because Israel exists. It is because America itself has laws on the books that allow it.

Take AIPAC for example. They don't have to register under FARA because they're not Israeli and they're not taking money from Israel. They're Americans, many of them Christian Zionists, that aggressively pursue the Israeli national interests and strategic goals in the region. Often at the expense of American national interests.

Finally, I think in order to solve this problem, Americans must completely decouple lobbying from politics. Which is another way of saying get money out of politics. But like with congressional term limits, Congress has very little interest in reform that puts any kind of limit on their power.

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Israel represents jews worldwide. So jews that literally have control of our government are the same jews with dual citizenship to their home base. You make it sound like they have no influence in our policy making , like it's our fault that they take advantage of us.

Anyone who tries to stop their agenda, not just here, is either removed from office or killed. You don't realize how bad it is I guess.

So you said that you remind yourself that Israel has it's own interests. But those interests ( war, control of the Middle East, genocide) cannot happen without our involvement. So Americans, whether they like it or not, are implicated

Luther7 said:

Israel represents jews worldwide. So jews that literally have control of our government are the same jews with dual citizenship to their home base. You make it sound like they have no influence in our policy making , like it's our fault that they take advantage of us.

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Israel represents Israel. There are plenty of Jews all over the world that do not support the Israeli government or even the existence of Israel itself. It is our fault because American politicians are benefiting from the current arrangement.

Luther7 said:

Anyone who tries to stop their agenda, not just here, is either removed from office or killed. You don't realize how bad it is I guess.

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Then why were previous presidents able to say no to Netanyahu when he wanted to go to war with Iran?

Luther7 said:

So you said that you remind yourself that Israel has it's own interests. But those interests ( war, control of the Middle East, genocide) cannot happen without our involvement. So Americans, whether they like it or not, are implicated

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I said that Israel has it's own interests and that American politicians often defer to Israeli interests over American interests. Because of this, we are complicit. Not the American people, but the government certainly.

Riven said:

Israel represents Israel. There are plenty of Jews all over the world that do not support the Israeli government or even the existence of Israel itself. It is our fault because American politicians are benefiting from the current arrangement.


Then why were previous presidents able to say no to Netanyahu when he wanted to go to war with Iran?


I said that Israel has it's own interests and that American politicians often defer to Israeli interests over American interests. Because of this, we are complicit. Not the American people, but the government certainly.

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You said "Israel represents Israel." Should have been more clear. The ideology/ religion is shared amongst the whole worldwide nation of jews.
If you practice the talmud you are in line with what the government of Israel is in the process of accomplishing.

You said:
Then why were previous presidents able to say no to Netanyahu when he wanted to go to war with Iran?
Now do you really believe it's that simple? I believe it is when you start to DO something about it. JFK, our last president that fully represented the American people, started to DO something.

You said: Not the American people, but the government certainly.
Well I don't agree. We are all accountable when it comes to knowing the truth.

Luther7 said:

They occasionally spit on Christians as they visit.

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yeah and so do more and more who even sit in christain churches so called .
if one wants to know what happens when by seeker friendly methods , victim cards ,
judge not correct not , ecumeincal inclusivism get sold .
IF one wants TO SEE what happens when TRUTH is silence under guise of false love
and judge not and lets just hug and get along .
THEN GO TO and behold what has gained the ground .
GO to and behold even the latest upmost mockery to GOD .
GO to and behold a STATE SPONSERED EVENT .
WHere they dance upon the sea of the dead
where they beleive even sodom and gomorrah
once was .
GO TO and BEHOLD as they CRY and shout and even dance on the ashes of what remains
of a city who DID SUCH THINGS .
GO to and behold as they cry PRIDE IS GONNA REIGN
GO to and behold what happens when T RUTH is silenced for false love .
WHY EVIL T AKES OVER . GO to and behold the PRIDE MONTH in ISRAEL .
THIS is a total mockery TO GOD . THEY even chose the d ead sea
EVEN chose where they beleived sodom and gomorrah were.
TO MAKE A STATEMENT . WE DONE with the GOD OF THE BIBLE , PRIDE WILL REIGN .
but alas they dont realize the very ashes they dance upon
WAS THE CORE REASON its now ashes . THE SIN OF SODOM WAS PRIDE . PRIDE .

Luther7 said:

You said "Israel represents Israel." Should have been more clear. The ideology/ religion is shared amongst the whole worldwide nation of jews.
If you practice the talmud you are in line with what the government of Israel is in the process of accomplishing.

You said:
Then why were previous presidents able to say no to Netanyahu when he wanted to go to war with Iran?
Now do you really believe it's that simple? I believe it is when you start to DO something about it. JFK, our last president that fully represented the American people, started to DO something.

You said: Not the American people, but the government certainly.
Well I don't agree. We are all accountable when it comes to knowing the truth.

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The very ashes they now dance upon singing PRIDE IS GONNA reign
IS a testimony against them .
FOR the very reason those cities became ash , IS THE VERY REASON they now sing , PRIDE IS GONNA REIGN .
THE SIN OF SODOM WAS PRIDE .
But this generation says OH JUDGE NOT hater . JUDGE NOT . as more and more churches now
even support PRIDE MONTH .
WELL that is what happens when leaven is not corrected . IT T AKES OVER , IT SURLEY DOES G ROW INDEED .