How much is petrol/gasoline in your area?
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I looked at getting the dual gas/electric version of the Prius. My workplace allows employees up to 3 hours of free charging for EVs. I'm not sure that applies to contractors like me, though.
Definitely. (And @Riven, South Florida was one of the most bike-unfriendly places I've ever lived. Few dedicated bike paths, shoulders about three inches wide max with sand and drainage canals on either side, and drivers that are either elderly and half-blind, on drugs, homicidal psychopaths, or from New York. Or various permutations thereof.) That's one of the reasons why I thought the bike trail (built along an abandoned rail line) was a really good option. Other than the armed bandits.
Ronald David Bruno
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$3.35 gal. TEXAS
A PEACE DEAL supposedly was signed last night by Iran. ??
By Mojtaba ... in hiding? Why doesn't he show himself? Was he injured, deformed or is he really alive? We'll see. Maybe Casper can tell us if he is alive or dead?
A PEACE DEAL supposedly was signed last night by Iran. ??
By Mojtaba ... in hiding? Why doesn't he show himself? Was he injured, deformed or is he really alive? We'll see. Maybe Casper can tell us if he is alive or dead?
If the news came from Trump ...wait about 2 hours and you'll find out it was all a big fat lie. He's just manipulating markets to line his family's pockets. Lol
I'm happy to report that it's no longer my government! For my conversation is in heaven; from whence also I look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ.
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Problem is, both require inputs - of electricity and of maintenance/spare parts. If you've got that covered, then yes.
I gave my three daughters 2 years of horse riding lessons. Perhaps I will see a return on that investment...
But, horses need inputs, too. BTW, right now, for me, it's chickens. I'm struggling here in the New Zealand winter to keep them fed from my garden crops. It's my first year with the chx, so the next season should put me over the top. The point of all this is to prepare; do at least one thing every single day - even if it's only for 20 minutes - to build resilience and self-sufficiency into your lifestyle.
My caravan purchase was $5000 NZD. A bit of DIY mod's, and I'm lovin' it.
Yeah, so back to the requirement for energy/power. I do solar (and small gas gennies in the depth of winter).
I hitchhike a fair amount; allows me to get my finger on the pulse, meet interesting people, talk up community with them.
I've gone thru several cars, but eventually, the goal is to wean off gasoline altogether.
Ziggy
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Sorry, folks. I flubbed the conversion math back at post #28.
The average price of petrol in New Zealand is currently around $7.50 USD per US gallon.
(I had a restless sleep last night before I realized it was because of my gasoline goof-up).
The average price of petrol in New Zealand is currently around $7.50 USD per US gallon.
(I had a restless sleep last night before I realized it was because of my gasoline goof-up).
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Ziggy
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The war is over, the Hormuz is open.
Hopefully people can breathe a little easier knowing we don't have to worry about Iran dropping nukes on our heads.
And I think the cost of gas will start going down now, once we get confidence back in the Strait that the IRGC won't try to bomb them.
Got those shipping lanes cleaned up.
Pray for the Children.
Next...
Hugs
The war is not over. It's just a fake 60-day "ceasefire" that will be violated once again by Israel or the US.
Don't think for one moment that either Trump or Netanyahu will honor that "ceasefire." Both of them are EVIL WARMONGERING LIARS.
Don't think for one moment that either Trump or Netanyahu will honor that "ceasefire." Both of them are EVIL WARMONGERING LIARS.
If the war REALLY ended today, it will still take a year or more to get prices anywhere near what they were. The damage is done, and THAT was the plan. They want to kill off masses of the world's population and that's what will come next ....famine and pestilence ...major uptick in earthquakes, and persecution like the world has never seen.
Ziggy
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Current Petrol Price in New Zealand in US Dollars
As of the latest update on 8 June 2026, the retail price of octane‑95 petrol in New Zealand is about $1.98 per litre in US dollarsWhen you have to lie about the price of gasoline, then you know you have a real bad case of TDS.
LOL
Ziggy
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My bad, you said Gallon not Litre.
I apologize.
$1.98 USD/L × 3.78541 L/gal ≈ $7.48 USD per US gallon.
It's gone done from 7.50 to 7.48, so that's something..
I apologize.
$1.98 USD/L × 3.78541 L/gal ≈ $7.48 USD per US gallon.
It's gone done from 7.50 to 7.48, so that's something..
Ziggy
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New Zealand’s petrol price is about 30.8% above the global average of ~$1.51 USD/L
Why?
Prices are sensitive to crude oil costs, exchange rate movements, and shipping/logistics expenses, as NZ imports all fuel by sea
Oh, you have all your oil imported.
Doesn't NZ have any of it's own oil?
Drill Baby Drill!!
New Zealand previously had one oil refinery, the Marsden Point Oil Refinery, which processed imported crude oil alongside a small amount of domestic oil. The refinery closed in 2022 and was converted into an import terminal, shifting the country to an import-only model for refined fuels . Today, most of New Zealand’s fuel comes from refined imports from Singapore, South Korea, and Japan, while domestic oil production is largely exported or used in limited local applications.
Why?
Prices are sensitive to crude oil costs, exchange rate movements, and shipping/logistics expenses, as NZ imports all fuel by sea
Oh, you have all your oil imported.
Doesn't NZ have any of it's own oil?
Yes, New Zealand produces its own oil, but domestic production covers only a small fraction of national demand, making the country heavily reliant on imports.
Drill Baby Drill!!
New Zealand previously had one oil refinery, the Marsden Point Oil Refinery, which processed imported crude oil alongside a small amount of domestic oil. The refinery closed in 2022 and was converted into an import terminal, shifting the country to an import-only model for refined fuels . Today, most of New Zealand’s fuel comes from refined imports from Singapore, South Korea, and Japan, while domestic oil production is largely exported or used in limited local applications.
Summary
While New Zealand does have its own oil resources and ongoing production, domestic output is insufficient to meet national demand. The country relies heavily on imported refined fuels, and the closure of the Marsden Point refinery has further increased dependence on overseas sources. Domestic oil production remains important for industry and export, but New Zealand is not self-sufficient in oil
Ziggy
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Why was the Marsden Point refinery shut down?
The Marsden Point Oil Refinery in Whangārei, New Zealand, was permanently shut down in 2022 after about 58 years of operation, with its last refining activity ending in March 2022. The closure was officially framed as a commercial decision by its owners — Refining NZ, later Channel Infrastructure — to stop refining crude oil and convert the site into an import-only fuel terminal.
Decline and losses: By 2020, the refinery had run at losses or thin margins for years, culminating in a NZ$552.6 million net loss in 2021
In short, Marsden Point closed because refining at the site was no longer economically viable compared to importing already-refined products, but the decision has since been scrutinized for its impact on New Zealand’s energy independence.
Sorry, not sorry.
Your country chose to give up it's energy independence and become captive by imports from Asia.
You should Protest your government to open that refinery and get the oil flowing again.
The only reason why the price is a little higher here in the US isn't because of supply.
We don't need to import, in fact we export a lot of oil to other countries.
Thing is, this is just one strait that is being blockaded. There are other routes that ships can take to get to their intended destination.
And if NZ is importing most of their oil from Asia, then how does blockading the Strait of Hormuz effect NZ?
New Zealand’s fuel supply chain is long: 48% of refined fuel comes from South Korea and 33% from Singapore, both of which rely heavily on Middle Eastern crude
Disruption to crude supply
If the Strait is effectively closed, oil shipments from the Middle East to Asian refineries would be halted or rerouted, increasing costs and delays
And so we come full circle.
does the US export refined fuel?
Yes — the United States does export refined fuel, and in recent years it has become one of the world’s largest exporters of motor gasoline and other refined petroleum products.
So basically it comes down to Trade relationships.
Let's Make A Deal.
No, There are a lot of things going on in the Middle East, not just Iran.
Both sides used the Strait for leverage.
The IRGC was charging tolls up to a billion dollars a ship to pass through safely.
Talk about mafia tactics.
We won't blow you up, just give us your money.
And London was making mint off the insurance costs those shippers had to pay.
The only ones they was providing "safe" passage to was China.
Approval process: Ship operators must contact IRGC intermediaries, submit vessel and cargo details, and negotiate passage. Only vessels cleared by the IRGC are allowed through
Clearance & escort: Approved ships receive a clearance code and must respond to VHF radio checks; they may be escorted by IRGC vessels through Iranian territorial waters
Scope: The toll applies to commercial vessels, including oil and LNG tankers, and is being formalized into law
In summary: If you are a commercial ship operator considering transit, expect to pay up to $2 million per vessel to the IRGC, with payment options including cryptocurrency and yuan, and passage only after formal clearance.
The Marsden Point Oil Refinery in Whangārei, New Zealand, was permanently shut down in 2022 after about 58 years of operation, with its last refining activity ending in March 2022. The closure was officially framed as a commercial decision by its owners — Refining NZ, later Channel Infrastructure — to stop refining crude oil and convert the site into an import-only fuel terminal.
Official Reasons for Closure
- Unfavorable global refining economics: By the late 2010s, large, efficient refineries in Asia and other parts of the region had far lower operating costs and higher margins, undercutting smaller plants like Marsden Point
Decline and losses: By 2020, the refinery had run at losses or thin margins for years, culminating in a NZ$552.6 million net loss in 2021
In short, Marsden Point closed because refining at the site was no longer economically viable compared to importing already-refined products, but the decision has since been scrutinized for its impact on New Zealand’s energy independence.
Sorry, not sorry.
Your country chose to give up it's energy independence and become captive by imports from Asia.
You should Protest your government to open that refinery and get the oil flowing again.
The only reason why the price is a little higher here in the US isn't because of supply.
We don't need to import, in fact we export a lot of oil to other countries.
Thing is, this is just one strait that is being blockaded. There are other routes that ships can take to get to their intended destination.
And if NZ is importing most of their oil from Asia, then how does blockading the Strait of Hormuz effect NZ?
New Zealand’s fuel supply chain is long: 48% of refined fuel comes from South Korea and 33% from Singapore, both of which rely heavily on Middle Eastern crude
Disruption to crude supply
If the Strait is effectively closed, oil shipments from the Middle East to Asian refineries would be halted or rerouted, increasing costs and delays
And so we come full circle.
Why New Zealand Doesn’t Import Oil from the US
New Zealand does not import oil from the United States because its fuel supply chain is built around refined products from Asian refineries, not crude oil from the US, and the infrastructure and trade relationships are not set up for US crude imports.does the US export refined fuel?
Yes — the United States does export refined fuel, and in recent years it has become one of the world’s largest exporters of motor gasoline and other refined petroleum products.
So basically it comes down to Trade relationships.
Cost Comparison: NZ Refined Oil from Asia vs US
It is generally cheaper for NZ to get refined oil from Asia than from the US, because Asian refineries benefit from scale, proximity to cheap Middle East crude, and established export networks. US suppliers face higher transport costs and less competitive pricing in NZ’s market, making them less attractive for cost‑sensitive buyersLet's Make A Deal.
No, There are a lot of things going on in the Middle East, not just Iran.
Both sides used the Strait for leverage.
The IRGC was charging tolls up to a billion dollars a ship to pass through safely.
Talk about mafia tactics.
We won't blow you up, just give us your money.
And London was making mint off the insurance costs those shippers had to pay.
The only ones they was providing "safe" passage to was China.
IRGC Transit Fee for the Strait of Hormuz
Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) has been charging commercial vessels up to $2 million per ship to transit the Strait of Hormuz. This is the highest reported toll for a maritime chokepoint in modern history and applies to ships that receive formal IRGC clearance to pass through the strait.Approval process: Ship operators must contact IRGC intermediaries, submit vessel and cargo details, and negotiate passage. Only vessels cleared by the IRGC are allowed through
Clearance & escort: Approved ships receive a clearance code and must respond to VHF radio checks; they may be escorted by IRGC vessels through Iranian territorial waters
Scope: The toll applies to commercial vessels, including oil and LNG tankers, and is being formalized into law
Estimated revenue
Public estimates suggest the toll system could generate up to $20 million per day from oil tankers alone, with $600–800 million per month if liquefied natural gas (LNG) vessels are included TRM Labs.Context
The Strait of Hormuz is the only major route for Gulf oil exports to the open sea, carrying about 20% of global oil and LNG trade in peacetime Aljazeera. The IRGC’s toll regime has effectively turned the strait into a self-financing “toll road” for global tanker traffic, with costs passed on to consumers through higher energy prices Blockonomi.In summary: If you are a commercial ship operator considering transit, expect to pay up to $2 million per vessel to the IRGC, with payment options including cryptocurrency and yuan, and passage only after formal clearance.
Ziggy
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How much more do you think NZ pays for fuel due to the cost associated with the ships having to comply with the IRGC?
Bottom line: While NZ has not published a dollar-per-litre figure for IRGC tolls, the combination of tolls, restricted transit, and global price spikes means the cost impact is likely in the billions of NZ dollars annually if the situation persists, and could be much higher in a prolonged closure.
So what if we could cut a deal with Iran to remove the tolls and restrictions on tankers moving through the strait of Hormuz ?
What would be the customers savings on the cost of import?
Billions of dollars. Or whatever the currency of NZ is.
Knowing this:
Listen:
That's one of the things we're trying to fix. Not for us, because it doesn't effect us. We don't import oil from the middle east.
But it does effect most other countries that not only rely on oil, but other commodities such as fertilizer.
That's a big cost item too. And the IRGC is making a killing off of controlling that Strait.
If we could get them to open without tolling and restrictions, things would be economically better for everyone.
And most of the world's fertilizers come from Ukraine which is also in turbulent times. And they export their goods through the Hormuz as well.
I hope we reach a deal. I think we have. And if we have, then in time, prices will start to come down,
1. because you won't have to be paying the Tolls on the shipping costs that the IRGC was placing on them.
2. Confidence will rise and the speculators will lower the prices due to less risk.
And maybe someday the good people of NZ can convince their government to get that refinery up and working, so things like this don't happen again in the future.
3am I'm outta here.
Hugs
Cost Impact of IRGC Tolls and Hormuz Transit on NZ Fuel Prices
There is no official figure from New Zealand’s government on exactly how much more NZ pays for imported refined oil due to IRGC tolls and Hormuz transit restrictions. However, the situation is severe enough that the potential cost impact is in the billions of dollars.Bottom line: While NZ has not published a dollar-per-litre figure for IRGC tolls, the combination of tolls, restricted transit, and global price spikes means the cost impact is likely in the billions of NZ dollars annually if the situation persists, and could be much higher in a prolonged closure.
So what if we could cut a deal with Iran to remove the tolls and restrictions on tankers moving through the strait of Hormuz ?
What would be the customers savings on the cost of import?
Billions of dollars. Or whatever the currency of NZ is.
Knowing this:
What does international law say about tolls on shipping?
International law protects free transit through strategic waters such as natural straits like Hormuz, barring countries from imposing passage tolls even where the waterways fall entirely into territorial waters, like in the case of Hormuz.Listen:
That's one of the things we're trying to fix. Not for us, because it doesn't effect us. We don't import oil from the middle east.
But it does effect most other countries that not only rely on oil, but other commodities such as fertilizer.
That's a big cost item too. And the IRGC is making a killing off of controlling that Strait.
If we could get them to open without tolling and restrictions, things would be economically better for everyone.
And most of the world's fertilizers come from Ukraine which is also in turbulent times. And they export their goods through the Hormuz as well.
I hope we reach a deal. I think we have. And if we have, then in time, prices will start to come down,
1. because you won't have to be paying the Tolls on the shipping costs that the IRGC was placing on them.
2. Confidence will rise and the speculators will lower the prices due to less risk.
And maybe someday the good people of NZ can convince their government to get that refinery up and working, so things like this don't happen again in the future.
3am I'm outta here.
Hugs
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