God Commands Righteous Violence

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Lambano said:
Do you really think Vlad the Impaler gave a damn about Jesus Christ or any of His teachings?
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Yes. Twice his Christian credentials were posted. Once by me. Once by @RLT63. These are the facts no matter how many times you ask. Vlad was a defender of the Christian faith of the highest order. You just object to his means.
 
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Wrangler said:
Yes. Twice his Christian credentials were posted. Once by me. Once by @RLT63. These are the facts no matter how many times you ask. Vlad was a defender of the Christian faith of the highest order. You just object to his means.
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What does "being a Christian" mean to you?

What do you think it means to Jesus?

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Lambano said:
What does "being a Christian" mean to you?
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Appeal to Subjectivism. You keep trying to make this thread personal. God commands righteous use of violence. Jesus will return to kill more people than anyone else in human history. Violence in the Lake of Fire is God’s ultimate solution to evil.

I’m motivated to show modern pacifism in the church is a sham.
 
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Wrangler said:
Not answering my question. Very telling.
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Did you notice that @RLT63 - a man whom I have publicly commended for his honesty - hasn’t answered some of the questions he was asked?

We know what you think about people who don’t answer questions.

You’ve left hundreds of questions unanswered. Not very telling, until what you think about people who don’t answer questions is applied to you. You are what you falsely accuse others of being - dishonest.
 
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Lambano said:
I take it you would prefer living under a tyrant that tortures his own people?
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Perhaps, but I think he would prefer to be a tyrant that tortures his enemies.

I challenged him and he backed down.
 
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Wrangler said:
Yes. Twice his Christian credentials were posted. Once by me. Once by @RLT63. These are the facts no matter how many times you ask. Vlad was a defender of the Christian faith of the highest order.
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Christian credentials are the fruit of the spirit. Vlad lacks those credentials.

Wrangler said:
You just object to his means.
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All human beings - Christian and non-Christian alike - should object to his means. That you don’t is more telling to me than your decision not to answer questions.
 
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Matthias said:
Perhaps, but I think he would prefer to be a tyrant that tortures his enemies.

I challenged him and he backed down.
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Adolph Hitler was baptized in the Catholic Church.
Just because someone claims to be a Christian doesn't mean we should follow their example
 
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“Save us! Save us! We don’t care what means you use to do it, just do it!” will have billions of people worshipping the AntiChrist.
 
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RLT63 said:
Adolph Hitler was baptized in the Catholic Church.
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Baptized and confirmed. I wasn’t sure if he was ever formally excommunicated by the Catholic Church, so I looked it up. He wasn’t.

Hitler was just as evil as Vlad but their respective relationships with Muslims were different. No doubt Hitler would have eventually have turned against the Muslims - he was just using them - and that would have placed him back in Vlad’s corner.

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Just because someone claims to be a Christian doesn't mean we should follow their example
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That’s right. I‘m careful to tell people that we must follow the example of Jesus and the apostles.
 
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Wrangler said:
Thoughts?
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Appealing to Vlad as a role model for followers of Jesus was a poor decision. It turned readers off from watching a slightly flawed but still good presentation on an important subject.

From my X / Twitter “For you” feed this afternoon -

“Husbands and fathers are called to be guardians of their homes.

Guard the truth that enters.
Guard the peace within.
Guard your wife and children from spiritual danger.
Lead with courage, sacrifice, prayer, and the Word of God.

A godly man does not abandon his post.”

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Scott Roberts (@ScottRoberts) on X

Husbands and fathers are called to be guardians of their homes. Guard the truth that enters. Guard the peace within. Guard your wife and children from spiritual danger. Lead with courage, sacrifice, prayer, and the Word of God. A godly man does not abandon his post.
x.com x.com

The pastor has spoken wisely.
 
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Matthias said:
@RLT63 @ScottA

Is a man who believes in his heart that “Jesus lied” worthy of death?

Is a man who believes in his heart that “Jesus lied” deceived?

Does God want a man who believes in his heart that “Jesus lied” to change his mind and be saved?

What do you want for such a man?
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Such a man is deceived and yes I believe God wants him to change
 
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Wrangler said:
Vlad … Thoughts?
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“By converting those who persecute Christians, we would free not only their victims, but the persecutors themselves.”

(Richard Wurmbrand, Tortured for Christ, p. 109)

You have a discernment problem. Your eyes, ears, and heart are with the torturer (the wicked ruler); they should be with the tortured (the Christian hero.)
 
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