God's Great GRACE Departure RDF The Second Coming!

GRACE ambassador said:

Part II God's Great GRACE Departure

(Previously) The Second Coming, According to earthly Prophecy:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15 AV) From “Things That Differ!" (BBS)

The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!:

(1) Immediately After GRACE Has 'Ended'/Zero signs!:
CHRIST, As Head Of His Body, The Church, Will Descend From
Heaven! (Ephesians 1:19-23; Colossians 1:18; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 AV)

(2) CHRIST Is Coming With A Shout, With the voice of an archangel, And With
The [ Last GRACE ] Trump of God! (1 Thessalonians 4:16; 1 Corinthians 15:52 AV)
Note: The First GRACE Trump (Voice) Of God, Was In Acts 9:4 AV)

3) God (JESUS CHRIST) Will Bring With Him {those who Were With
Him In Heaven}, part Of His Own, those who are “asleep In JESUS!”
(2 Corinthians 5:8; Philippians 1:21-23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-14 AV)

(4) CHRIST Descends With One archangel, Will resurrect those
asleep First, and Then, we “which are alive and remain,” { which
Is A Mystery! }, will be changed/all “incorruptible, And Caught Up”
together to meet The LORD in the air, in the “twinkling of an eye!”
(1 Thessalonians 4:16-17; 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 cp Philippians 3:20-21 AV)

(5) CHRIST “Gathers His Body” To Himself, to Take them To Heaven...
(2 Thessalonians 2:1-3; 1 Corinthians 15:49; 2 Corinthians 12:2, 5:1-2;
Ephesians 1:3, 20, 2:6; Philippians 3:20; 2 Timothy 4:18 AV)

6)...For The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST, For HIS Heavenly Body,
By The Head Himself!... (Romans 2:6, 16, 14:10-12;
1 Corinthians 3:8-15, 4:5, 6:20; 2 Corinthians 5:10;
Ephesians 6:8; Colossians 3:24-25 AV)

(7a) ...After Judgment, the GRACE assembly Is Then Presented as
A Glorious Church, To CHRIST Himself!... (Ephesians 5:27 AV)

(7b) ...And, Then CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and
unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father,
In Heaven, Where we Live * Forever And Ever! Amen!
(1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22;
1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2 AV)

* Note, The ONE army Of The Body Of CHRIST Must "have been
assigned our Heavenly positions" for ruling and reigning! Amen?

Also see Update below: Day of CHRIST vs Day Of The LORD vs Day Of God!

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LORD JESUS, thank You so much for Your Precious BLOOD,
Gift Of ETERNAL Salvation, And for Your Blessed Hope of
Glorification When You Come To Finally Gather us Home! Amen.
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Please Be Very Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided!

See you In God's Great GloryLand! ♫ ↑

GRACE, Peace, And JOY!...

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GRACE ambassador said:

Precious friend, thanks for kindly asking. In my Grace journey for years now I have heard "He is coming soon" quite a bit.
I just wonder could the definition of 'soon' maybe mean "another 40+ years"? At any rate, trying to always "stay With The
Scriptures" in my own walk, I personally adhere to the following:

"...we walk by faith, not by sight..." (2 Corinthians 5:7 AV)​

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"Set your affections on things above, not on things on the earth" (Colossians 3:2 AV)​

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I personally believe faith (for the Body Of Christ) should Include:

"looking for, watching for, and patiently waiting for":​

Only One Person, our Blessed Hope, The Holy One, The LORD Jesus Christ!
(2 Thessalonians 2:1; Romans 8:18-19; Romans 8:23; Romans 8:25; 1 Corinthians 1:7;
Ephesians 6:12-18; Philippians 3:20; Colossians 4:1-3; 1 Thessalonians 1:10;
1 Thessalonians 5:5-11; Titus 2:13 AV)

Which Occurrence would be at [ pre-trib ] God's Great GRACE Departure!

Thus, I do not foresee "The [ earthly ] Time Of Jacob's [ Israel's ] Trouble" coming our way at all, since, imho, it will
be Prophecy fulfilled After God's Current Dispensation Of Grace Closes, And The Body Of Christ Has Departed
To Heaven For The Bema Judgment Seat Of Christ, And our "ruling and reigning" With Him In The Heavenlies!

Amen, and blessings to you as well, precious friend.

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David in NJ said:

pre-trib rapture is wrongly dividing the Holy Scriptures


Rightly dividing the Holy Scriptures
There does not exist in all of Scripture a single pre-trib rapture prophecy of the Church

The LORD gave His Prophecy in Genesis in the Gospel and thru the Apostles and in Revelation

Matthew 24:
Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name’s sake. 10And then many will be offended, will betray one another, and will hate one another. 11Then many false prophets will rise up and deceive many. 12And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. 13But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

“Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16“then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

23“Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There!’ do not believe it. 24For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25See, I have told you beforehand.

26“Therefore if they say to you, ‘Look, He is in the desert!’ do not go out; or ‘Look, He is in the inner rooms!’ do not believe it. 27For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28For wherever the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together.

FIRST comes the Antichrist/AoD and Great Tribulation, then Comes CHRIST for the Resurrection with His angels

“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Anyone who speaks against these words or adds to them or takes away commits false teaching/prophecy.

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ScottA said:

Until now I didn't understand what you meant by "God's Great GRACE Departure!", but I see you are trying to demonstrate a pretrib rapture.

To the contrary--of scripture--what @David in NJ posted of 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 and Matthew 24:9-26 is enough (all though there is much more). Those passages however, have been the subject of speculated interpretation by many leading to all manner of errored doctrine. In fact, all pre, mid, and post tribulation doctrines are errored, in that they all have looked to some time in the future after Paul wrote to the Thessalonians 2,000+ years ago.

However, if you look closely at every part of those passages you will see that the timing of tribulations referred to are defined as "among those who perish"--which is not future--but began in the garden, since the beginning. The question then becomes, How is that possible?...and this is were "rightly dividing the word of truth" is necessary for a true and proper understanding or interpretation of what is written.

Since both Jesus and Paul are speaking to those who lived during that time and their words would also be taught from that time on going forward, it is worth noting that they seem only to be referring to things in the future--but we are suppose to know better than to think "the man of sin" was only future, when "all have fallen short of the glory of God" since Adam. Even so, speaking to those of that time, they did address things as if it all was even perhaps beginning at that time...but that is just because that is the time when the truth was coming upon that generation like never before, for that was the time of the coming of Christ, salvation, and the Holy Spirit being poured out upon all flesh--which would effect everyone from that point on--like never before.

Paul eluded to much that explains how these things of prophecy all work, first telling the order, but then saying "but" to qualify just what he meant--"but each one in his own order." If you then look again at 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 with an open mind, each of the things he describes ("the man of sin revealed", "sitting as God in the temple of God", "the mystery of lawlessness is already at work", "whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming"). And then in Matthew 24:9-26, much the same--all can be understood to happen to "each one in his own order" or time in history.

As for things like "the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven"--it simply means it is the end of the world for "each one." And "the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven" is where "rightly dividing" is necessary to understand that once one passes from this world, heavenly things come into view.

If you find any of that to be hard to follow, let me know what it is, and I can explain further. But that is the simple truth of it all.

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